Negita43 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Can anyone please clarify. I have visa extension based on retirement. I returned yesterday from a 6 week holiday in Europe. On entry to Thailand I completed the entry card with my correct address - my house in KORAT which I have lived in for 5 years. Do I need to go to immigration to confirm my address now or do I just go when my 90 day is due? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I don't recall any reports of Korat immigration wanting a TM30 report after a trip out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 By law someone should be reporting your new stay at that address, but you’ll need to ask Korat immigration what they require. In case you’re not aware the 90 day report reset to day 1 on the day you re-entered the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajnamoon Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 As far as I'm aware if you are residing long term in Thailand and leave the country you have to report to immigration on your return within 24 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, ajnamoon said: As far as I'm aware if you are residing long term in Thailand and leave the country you have to report to immigration on your return within 24 hours There is no written requirement that states that. It is only a policy of some immigration offices. The rules only state a report is required within 24 hours of arrival at the residence being reported. If you maintain the same residence there is not requirement to do a report but some people interpret the wording differently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, ajnamoon said: As far as I'm aware if you are residing long term in Thailand and leave the country you have to report to immigration on your return within 24 hours Yup... Jomtien tell me only one day away from the normal sleeping place, and you need to do again. Even if same place you go back to. Many takes on this. As we all see. (Bangkok no). But Jomtien play it down the line. Hoping for the penalties if you dont comply.. The TM6 and TM30 may align on your reporting... Or if the officer is looking for a new TV or phone etc. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: There is no written requirement that states that. It is only a policy of some immigration offices. The rules only state a report is required within 24 hours of arrival at the residence being reported. If you maintain the same residence there is not requirement to do a report but some people interpret the wording differently. Jomtien say have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee2 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I have a marriage extension and each time I re-enter Thailand I put my home address on my arrival card. In 4 years, I have never filed a TM30 and never been questioned at the local immigration office as to why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ubonjoe said: There is no written requirement that states that. It is only a policy of some immigration offices. The rules only state a report is required within 24 hours of arrival at the residence being reported. If you maintain the same residence there is not requirement to do a report but some people interpret the wording differently. I'm afraid I'm one of those who interpret the law differently. Anyone entering Thailand must comply with the Immigration Act, which includes section 36, unless you know your local Immigration office doesn't enforce it (Bangkok for example) then it is always safer to file a new TM30. I've heard mixed review about Korat, it depends on the IO you get to deal with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajnamoon Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I have Aussie friend in Chiang Mai with one year O visa went back to OZ for 3 months then when he went to Promenada immigration for 90 day report later was fined 1600 baht by officer and told fine was because he didn't report to immigration after returning to Thailand from Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasa123 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 This you ned in Phuket now Address Registration (TM30) – All you need to know about it and why it matters to you TM.30 form or Notification form from House-Master, Owner or the Possessor of the Residence where Alien has stayed . What's it all about? The TM30 and its underlying laws are about the obligation of a landlord (or house master, possessor, manager) to report the stay of any foreigner (non-Thai national) in his/her property. All foreigners staying in Thailand and their hosts should be very well aware of this. The law with regard to the TM30 and the obligation to report a foreigner's stay have been in place for a long time, but the government has started to enforce it more strictly lately, and changed some of the procedures with regards to your 90-days reporting and extension of visa. IF YOU'RE RENTING, CHECK IF YOUR LANDLORD HAS REPORTED YOUR STAY What is the purpose of the (new) regulations? Basically, with the TM30 form, the government aims to know exactly where each foreigner is staying all the time. Every host, no matter Thai or foreigner, has the obligation to report the stay of a foreigner within 24 hours. If the reporting is not done within the 24 hours period immigration can fine the landlord if just one day late or when some documents are not complete. Who should act? Officially and practically, the responsibility to report the stay of a foreigner rests with the host: the landlord of a property, the hotel or the service apartment. Untimely reporting of a foreigner can be penalized. IF YOU'RE A FOREIGNER STAYING IN THAILAND LONG ENOUGH TO GO TO IMMIGRATION FOR A VISA EXTENSION OR 90-DAY REPORTING YOU BETTER CHECK IF YOUR LANDLORD REPORTED YOUR STAY However, if you are the guest or tenant, you can’t ignore TM30 either: Most of the time the registration is needed when going to the Immigration office for a service, such as the 90-day reporting and sometimes for visa extentions. It still depends on the officer in charge that you're facing, but at such moment that you may find out that your landlord did not report your stay and you will have to explain where you stayed all that time. There is also a risk that you as a tenant (or guest) may be fined instead of the landlord. How to report? As a foreigner staying in Thailand, you should prepare: (a) a copy of your passport (photo page) (b) a copy of the visa page in your passport (c) a copy of the departure card The landlord should prepare: (a) a copy of the title deed of the property (b) a copy of the rental contract(c) a copy of the Landlord ID card The landlord can outsource the reporting to somebody else, (the foreigner for example) a letter (Power Of Attorney) is then required to authorize this person to do the reporting (TM30) on behalf of landlord with stamps from the tax office attached on this letter. Power Of Attorney letter to authorize another person performing the address registration Official stamps from the tax authority office that needs to be affixed to letter from landlord giving authority to another person. Then, your landlord or property manager or yourself should report in either of these ways: 1. Most common is to go to the Immigration Office in Phuket Town and fill out the TM30 form there. (if there isn't an immigration office in your area, you have to report to the Police Office.) 2. The landlord can also register online on https://extranet.immigration.go.th/. (but the Landlord needs to setup an online account with immigration first in able to perform the online address registration) After registration, the landlord (or foreigner) will get a stamped return slip that the tenant (guest) should put In his passport and use it when going to Immigration for a service. Notes: Are the authorities that serious? It's unlikely that you will have serious trouble when a landlord or a guesthouse/Hotel or service apartment has not reported your stay. Unlikely too that there will be any issues when you stay in Thailand for a short time and leave without having any contact with Immigration. But the moment you show up at Immigration to deal with some paperwork, you may have to show where you stayed and then it's too late. What to do when you discover you haven’t been reported Inform the Landlord, guesthouse/Hotel or service apartment that you are not reported yet at immigration and ask them to do as soon as possible and ask for the reporting slip which you can put in your passport to avoid any problem for the future. Alternatively you can do the reporting yourself as long you have the required documentation. Summarized: If you are a tenant (or guest): Make sure to check with your landlord within the first week of your stay that he/she has reported you. If the landlord doesn’t want to go, you could consider staying at another place, or you could report yourself at Immigration on behalf of the landlord, but then you need to get his/her proxy first (With the Power Of Attorney letter). Power of Attorney letter: When using the Power of Attorney letter this must be stamped with a 10 Baht Tax Stamp which can be bought at your local tax office or at most book shops. If you’re a landlord: Report your foreign guest/tenant within 24 hours. The 90 days reporting slip which you have possible in your passport does NOT count as an address registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Tanoshi said: I'm afraid I'm one of those who interpret the law differently. Anyone entering Thailand must comply with the Immigration Act, which includes section 36, unless you know your local Immigration office doesn't enforce it (Bangkok for example) then it is always safer to file a new TM30. And you are correct. If you leave the country you are obviously no longer staying at the reported address. When you re-enter the country the reporting procedures reset, and a TM.30 should be filed for whatever address you stay at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negita43 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 Thanks all Went to IO today and asked what was required (in Thai) I was told that it was not necessary to report on return but wait till 90 days. Clearly this is Thailand and so I can only vouch that this was the answer on this day with this IO officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 16/05/2018 at 12:18 PM, dallen52 said: Jomtien say have to do. They said that to YOU, but to ME they said people on Retirement Extension don't need to do TM30. They refused me the one time I wanted to do it. So I never made a TM30 and am here for +10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo77 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I recently moved to Chiang Rai from Chonburi, and when I registered at the Immigration Office, I was told that I had to complete a TM30 every time I left the province, never mind the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 4 hours ago, frodo77 said: I recently moved to Chiang Rai from Chonburi, and when I registered at the Immigration Office, I was told that I had to complete a TM30 every time I left the province, never mind the country. Are you on some sort of probation or have you been arrested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo77 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Are you on some sort of probation or have you been arrested? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 They said that to YOU, but to ME they said people on Retirement Extension don't need to do TM30. They refused me the one time I wanted to do it. So I never made a TM30 and am here for +10 years.I'm on retirement extension. Last two times I returned to same address.But Jomtien still say I have to do..Every time..Even if away for one night, to some other place.Silly as it sounds...Sent from my SM-T555 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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