Germany's Merkel says China and Germany standing by Iran nuclear deal

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Germany's Merkel says China and Germany standing by Iran nuclear deal

 

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang review the guard of honour during a welcome ceremony outside the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China May 24, 2018. REUTERS/Jason Lee

 

BEIJING (Reuters) - German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Thursday China and Germany are standing by the existing nuclear deal with Iran after the United States left the 2015 accord earlier this month.

 

Merkel made the comment during a joint news briefing with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang at Beijing's Great Hall of the People during a two-day visit to China.

 

(Reporting by Ben Blanchard, Thomas Peter and Tom Daly; Writing by Beijing Monitoring Desk; Editing by Paul Tait)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-05-24

[car720]

Now here is a glimpse of the future.

Let us see where this rabbit hole leads us.

[hansnl]

Just shows she is completely standing outside reality.

 

[stevenl]

47 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Just shows she is completely standing outside reality.

 

Why would that be?

[bizboi]

Who cares what the woman who <deleted> up an entire continent thinks!!!

[the guest]

Not if the Americans can help it she won't !

[jenny2017]

Germany's Merkel says China and Germany standing by Iran nuclear deal

 

That's really bad that they had no chairs. Poor Angie.

Edited May 24, 2018 by jenny2017

[sanuk711]

What a pity she is choosing to show them a split, --It doesn't matter what you think of Trump, you have to recognise the Iran regime as one that is hell bent on destroying Israel....& is the source of funds for most of the world terrorist organisations---the 2015 deal did nothing but to slow them down just a little, while supplying them with billions of USA $$ , now the other countries France/UK/ etc will be standing on the side lines watching the trade deals they made fulfilled by Germany.

I wonder if there will be an EU vote on this.....and if it will make any difference to Germany anyway.

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

What a pity she is choosing to show them a split, --It doesn't matter what you think of Trump, you have to recognise the Iran regime as one that is hell bent on destroying Israel....& is the source of funds for most of the world terrorist organisations---the 2015 deal did nothing but to slow them down just a little, while supplying them with billions of USA $$ , now the other countries France/UK/ etc will be standing on the side lines watching the trade deals they made fulfilled by Germany.

I wonder if there will be an EU vote on this.....and if it will make any difference to Germany anyway.

Nonsense, SA is the source of funds for terrorism, not Iran. Don't believe anything this president and his lackeys sprout.

 

And no, the USA did not supply them billions.

 

Where do you source your information?

Edited May 24, 2018 by stevenl

[dexterm]

I certainly hope Germany, France and UK  can stand by their deal, and demonstrate to Trump how untrustworthy and fickle the USA is when it gives its word. It would keep Iran's non nuclear proliferation intact, which was the purpose of the agreement after all and it is working. If it aint broke dont fix it. Any other side issues could have been dealt with via the UN or an additional separate deal. The nuclear stuff is just a pretext to help Trump's friend.

 

Have my doubts that the EU will not buckle under bully Trump, sad because it will ultimately lead to war, but if that happens, just remember who was the catalyst, who was the first to renege on the terms of the deal...it was not Iran.

[sanuk711]

24 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Where do you source your information?

Wikipedia Stevenl........ Iranian frozen assets --yes it was their money-(released under the deal) in international accounts were calculated to be worth between $100 billion^[1][2] and $120 billion.^[3][4] Almost $1.973 billion of Iran's assets---also they paid (so Wiki says) 400 million in a secret deal to get a  prisoners released. 

Also--Aug 2016

"The State Department conceded for the first time on Thursday that it delayed making a $400 million payment to Iran for several hours in January “to retain maximum leverage” and ensure that three American prisoners were released the same day".

[stevenl]

13 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

Wikipedia Stevenl........ Iranian frozen assets --yes it was their money-(released under the deal) in international accounts were calculated to be worth between $100 billion^[1][2] and $120 billion.^[3][4] Almost $1.973 billion of Iran's assets---also they paid (so Wiki says) 400 million in a secret deal to get a  prisoners released. 

Also--Aug 2016

"The State Department conceded for the first time on Thursday that it delayed making a $400 million payment to Iran for several hours in January “to retain maximum leverage” and ensure that three American prisoners were released the same day".

Glad to hear it was their own money after all, one statement debunked.

Now what does Wikipedia say about Iran funding most of the world's terrorist organisations?

[maximillian]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Glad to hear it was their own money after all, one statement debunked.

Now what does Wikipedia say about Iran funding most of the world's terrorist organisations?

 

Iran isn't funding the CIA, I guess.

 

[sanuk711]

56 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Now what does Wikipedia say about Iran funding most of the world's terrorist organisations?

I must be coming your Wiki Bitch sevenl......

Edited May 24, 2018 by sanuk711

[sanuk711]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Don't know how long your post is going to stay up because it violates the rules.

Thanks for letting me know BB..............if the edit it still there, will take it all down....it does come just...from Wiki...I should have left a link.

[stevenl]

13 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

I must be coming your Wiki Bitch sevenl......

So nothing what is generally called terrorism, just the middle East infighting.

[bristolboy]

15 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

I must be coming your Wiki Bitch sevenl......

Anyway if you read what the State Department wrote, most of the activities alleged to be committed by Iran don't even qualify as terrorism. Unless your definition of terrorism means any sort of violence committe by parties you disapprove of. The report even qualifies Iran's ties to Hamas as "historical" meaning not recently.

Does Iran help some really bad actors? Yes. It's not the only one. And if supporting bad actors makes a nation a sponsor of terrorism, then look no further than US assistance to Saudi Arabia in Yemen.

[AsiaHand]

4 hours ago, hansnl said:

Just shows she is completely standing outside reality.

 

China will stand by as some of the illegal material maybe coming from there and Germany  don't want to admit that it is a bad treaty.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, sanuk711 said:

What a pity she is choosing to show them a split, --It doesn't matter what you think of Trump, you have to recognise the Iran regime as one that is hell bent on destroying Israel....& is the source of funds for most of the world terrorist organisations---the 2015 deal did nothing but to slow them down just a little, while supplying them with billions of USA $$ , now the other countries France/UK/ etc will be standing on the side lines watching the trade deals they made fulfilled by Germany.

I wonder if there will be an EU vote on this.....and if it will make any difference to Germany anyway.

 

Iran is claimed to be heavily involved in state sponsored terrorism. While that may be so, this doesn't necessarily  include "most of the world terrorist organizations", or even most of them. When it comes to Islamic terrorism, it generally does not support Sunni organizations (with some exceptions). Additionally, the organizations supported by Iran are generally more active regionally.

 

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Nonsense, SA is the source of funds for terrorism, not Iran. Don't believe anything this president and his lackeys sprout.

 

And no, the USA did not supply them billions.

 

Where do you source your information?

 

While Saudi Arabia served (and serves) as a hotbed for Islamic terrorism, the component of state-sponsored terrorism is apparently not on par with Iran's. That not offered as defense of Saudi Arabia, but more to highlight the differences. With regard to international relations, it does matter whether actions were sponsored by a country's government or not. Another point, with regard to the other poster's words is that support tied with Saudi Arabia's is found both regionally and globally. And all the more so, when it comes to promoting the spread of its own extreme brand of Islam.

[Morch]

19 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So nothing what is generally called terrorism, just the middle East infighting.

 

15 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Anyway if you read what the State Department wrote, most of the activities alleged to be committed by Iran don't even qualify as terrorism. Unless your definition of terrorism means any sort of violence committe by parties you disapprove of. The report even qualifies Iran's ties to Hamas as "historical" meaning not recently.

Does Iran help some really bad actors? Yes. It's not the only one. And if supporting bad actors makes a nation a sponsor of terrorism, then look no further than US assistance to Saudi Arabia in Yemen.

 

That would be you two playing obtuse and ignoring the rather wide international agreement designation of organizations supported by Iran as terrorist. Trying to paint things as "Middle East infighting", or "any sort of violence committed by parties you don't approve to" isn't going to that.

 

As for the "but but but the US" deflection - the US supports Saudi Arabia, which can certainly be called a "bad actor", but not, a terrorist organization.

 

[Athens]

Dangerous game...US setting the rules , and every one must comply.....called dictatorship.

Lost faith in US

[Trouble]

My take is that it's not so much that the EU may disagree about the Iran deal as it only puts off Iran's development of nuclear weapons, but most importantly they want to keep the business deals afloat.  Money talks and nothing is ever about principle. Iran is a pariah in the world like North Korea.  No one in Europe really needs them other than for the business interests and therein lies the problem. Of course there is the oil too.