British Passport for son

[Chivas]

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In short am plowing through an application for "naturalization" of a Thai national born to me in Thailand outside of wedlock and pre the all important date in 2006 for automatic status to be considered a British subject

Its a nightmare trying to do it with the child and mother not with me and not in a relationship with me either

 

I have one question though that perhaps others may enlighten me on as regards the application which presents page after page of notes

 

Apart from the  birth certificate I have absolutely nothing as regards photos emails etc etc together with myself the lad and the mother.

 

Its such a complicated application but I can see no "obvious" reference to proving some sort of relationship. Inotherwards proving it wasnt a one night stand to father a child and then apply for British status for the lad

 

Have spent at least a week in real time going through all this and then some.  Agencies want upwards of £1500 to do an application which frankly am not surprised

 

Can anyone shed any light on just that particular point ??   Thanks...

[Chivas]

Unfortunately I cant edit that OP.....obviously should read "Naturalization leading to British Passport"

[Chivas]

Can I just bump this the once.....thanks

[puchooay]

You only need to apply for a passport. You don't need to do anything about naturalization.

 

The laws have been changed a few times so best just to ask the authorities.As an example, I know of a Thai/English boy who was born before 2006 to unmarried parents who obtained a British passport.

 

Are you and the child's mother on speaking terms? If so just go ahead as per the government website after having obtained the required documents from her.

 

I think you have to apply in Thailand. A friend of mine tried to apply in the passport office in Durham and was refused as they wanted the child to be present too. They told him to apply in Bangkok.

Edited May 26, 2018 by puchooay

[Chivas]

1 hour ago, puchooay said:

You only need to apply for a passport. You don't need to do anything about naturalization.

 

The laws have been changed a few times so best just to ask the authorities.As an example, I know of a Thai/English boy who was born before 2006 to unmarried parents who obtained a British passport.

 

Are you and the child's mother on speaking terms? If so just go ahead as per the government website after having obtained the required documents from her.

 

I think you have to apply in Thailand. A friend of mine tried to apply in the passport office in Durham and was refused as they wanted the child to be present too. They told him to apply in Bangkok.

No needs to become "naturalized" first before any passport application as a British subject

Was born in 2005

Whilst I already knew that three agencies confirmed the same along with the Gov.uk website fees range from £1500 to £1900 to get an agency to assist.

Its a logistical nightmare at the moment with the boyfriend of the mother unwilling to let me contact her. Am at the point of red carding it and putting it back in their court. (The boyfriend wants the lad to have British passport fair enough but was also initially unaware that it wasnt a simple form fill because of date of birth)

 

Theres about 33 pages you have to complete and not one is remotely straightforward (for obvious reasons)

 

 

[7by7]

As you know, but for the benefit of others like puchooay who do not, because your son was born outside the UK or a qualifying territory before 1st July 2006 and you and his mother were not married at the time of his birth and have not married since, he is not automatically British.

 

But he can apply to register as such using form UKF. Provided, of course, that you are British otherwise than by descent. Basically that is you are British in your own right because you were born in the UK or a qualifying territory and at least one of your parents is British. If not, then you are British by descent, i.e. inherited your nationality from one or both of your parents, and therefore cannot pass your British nationality onto your children born outside the UK or a qualifying territory regardless of when they were born and whether or not you are or ever have been married to their mother.

 

You say

On ‎5‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 8:52 AM, Chivas said:

(The boyfriend wants the lad to have British passport fair enough but was also initially unaware that it wasnt a simple form fill because of date of birth)

From the guide to form UKF

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You will be entitled to registration if:

• you were born before 1 July 2006.  
• you  would have  become a British citizen automatically if your mother had been married to your natural (biological) father  
• you have never been a British citizen 
• the Secretary of State is satisfied that you are of good character. 

Of course, you should read the whole guide, and make sure that all the required documents are included.

 

But, whilst tedious like any long form, the process should be fairly straightforward; provided you can provide the necessary documents; including your birth certificate and the required evidence of paternity

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Proof of Paternity 
 If your natural father was named as your father on a birth certificate issued within 12 months of your birth, this will be acceptable evidence of paternity. If not, you must provide other evidence. This could include: 

•  DNA test reports we will accept test results from a company that is on the government’s accredited list, or 
• a court order, or  
• other evidence that proves you are related as claimed. 

 Please provide any translations if these are applicable. Send original documents, photocopies are not acceptable.

 

As your son is under 18, his mother's consent will also be required.