snoop1130 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Vendors petition gov't to allow foreigners to work in shopfronts By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter Retail shop owners protest as they deliver a petition to officials Wednesday morning at the Labor Ministry. Photo: Korpong Tansuwan BANGKOK — Korpong Tansuwan has a clothing store to run. But he’s also got children to run back and forth from school and supplies to keep in stock. His sole Burmese employee is left to manage things alone during these errands – which is when undercover cops like to show up and cause trouble. Trouble that can end in paying a costly bribe. On Wednesday, Korpong was among 100-or-so shop owners who converged on the Labor Ministry to demand the law be changed because they can’t keep their stores open without illegally hiring foreign workers. Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/business/2018/06/20/1464822214/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-6-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: when undercover cops like to show up and cause trouble. Trouble that can end in paying a costly bribe. In many countries that would be headline... 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozmeldo Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hire a Thai - problem solved. Oh, that will cost b10k a month not 5k - oh the injustice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, ozmeldo said: Hire a Thai - problem solved. Oh, that will cost b10k a month not 5k - oh the injustice! Oh, you overlooked one problem, Thai don't want to work for 10K.... Oh, are you familiar with hiring Thai Oh, i guess not.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrDave Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 11 hours ago, ikke said: Oh, you overlooked one problem, Thai don't want to work for 10K.... Oh, are you familiar with hiring Thai Oh, i guess not.... Go into any 7/11 and ask any employee how much they make. Starting pay in my area is 400 baht/day. With one day off per week (which is the norm), that comes to just a little under 10K per month, ...and they're all Thais. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 My home country hundreds of thai restaurants all with thai owners and thai staff why would my country even allow this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, DrDave said: Go into any 7/11 and ask any employee how much they make. Starting pay in my area is 400 baht/day. With one day off per week (which is the norm), that comes to just a little under 10K per month, ...and they're all Thais. People like to work for CP, airconditioned shop, no push on sales etc. so yes thats a job they all want to do. I have 150 Employees , i need more, I pay exactly as CP, but very difficult to find new staff, reason our Thai management gives : People to lazy, they don't want to work..... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 Many Department shops are hopelessly over-manned. Check out the crowds of assistants that follow you around in Thaiwatsadu/Homepro. Sack 70% & there would be no diminution of service or sales; the management could then afford to reduce prices. Those employees might then be glad to take any work they can get. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 55 minutes ago, ikke said: People like to work for CP, airconditioned shop, no push on sales etc. so yes thats a job they all want to do. I have 150 Employees , i need more, I pay exactly as CP, but very difficult to find new staff, reason our Thai management gives : People to lazy, they don't want to work..... Bingo! You hit the nail on the head. That's the root of the problem here. A lot (most?) of them simply don't want to work. Period. Go to any business and just look around at the staff... most are either playing on their phones, looking at themselves in mirrors or dozing. FIL will only hire Burmese or Cambodians because the locals (and to a lesser extent the Laotians) are useless, lazy, disinterested, unreliable sods. Yes, I know there are exceptions. Some are good, hardworking people, but most aren't. I strongly believe that a business should be allowed to employ staff they feel are the right people for the job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, mikebell said: Many Department shops are hopelessly over-manned. Check out the crowds of assistants that follow you around in Thaiwatsadu/Homepro. Sack 70% & there would be no diminution of service or sales; the management could then afford to reduce prices. Those employees might then be glad to take any work they can get. Agree with you on sacking 70% but think the savings should be paid to the remaining staff in the form of higher salaries and bonuses based on performance, skills, loyalty and on training, etc. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongjaw Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, djayz said: Bingo! You hit the nail on the head. That's the root of the problem here. A lot (most?) of them simply don't want to work. Period. Go to any business and just look around at the staff... most are either playing on their phones, looking at themselves in mirrors or dozing. FIL will only hire Burmese or Cambodians because the locals (and to a lesser extent the Laotians) are useless, lazy, disinterested, unreliable sods. Yes, I know there are exceptions. Some are good, hardworking people, but most aren't. I strongly believe that a business should be allowed to employ staff they feel are the right people for the job. Just out of curiosity does your FIL pay the Burmese and Cambodian workers the going Thai rate or less?? If he pays them the Thai rate then I applaud him as many don’t. Friends daughter works in a well known coffe chain, 9k a month works 6 days a week but does get a share of tips. She did tell me in some places her friends work the boss keeps the tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Tongjaw said: Just out of curiosity does your FIL pay the Burmese and Cambodian workers the going Thai rate or less?? If he pays them the Thai rate then I applaud him as many don’t. Friends daughter works in a well known coffe chain, 9k a month works 6 days a week but does get a share of tips. She did tell me in some places her friends work the boss keeps the tips. I pay my Thai far over the official rate, and if I would have Burmese or Cambodian and they work harder i would pay them even more. The story of your friends daughter is unfortunately very common in T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1964 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 We hire Myanmar and Thai workers, Myanmar workers get the same salary as Thai's, but work harder and come to work EVERY day. Nothing to do with wanting to pay peanuts, its all about wanting reliable workers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Tongjaw said: Just out of curiosity does your FIL pay the Burmese and Cambodian workers the going Thai rate or less?? If he pays them the Thai rate then I applaud him as many don’t. Friends daughter works in a well known coffe chain, 9k a month works 6 days a week but does get a share of tips. She did tell me in some places her friends work the boss keeps the tips. He pays the same (plus he provided basic accommadation), but up in rural Isan the average daily rate in the villages varies between ฿ 200/220 to 250 a day depending on the work involved. I have't heard of anybody here paying the official 300/day rate here. Although I belive that the average employee here in LOS isn't worth 300/day, I do honestly think that the people out working in the fields deserve more as that is hard, back-breaking, dirty work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grkt Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 17 hours ago, ozmeldo said: Hire a Thai - problem solved. Oh, that will cost b10k a month not 5k - oh the injustice! Nice to see that you know nothing if you believe that burmese work for 5k and Thai for 10k... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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