JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I've just reinstalled windows on a PC and everything is working properly; except for one small glitch. The PC is built around an ASRock 960GB-VGS3 FX and an Nvidia GT730 graphics card. The VGA output is connected to a standard monitor and the HDMI output is connected to a TV. When the machine starts, it displays the BIOS/POST screen on the HDMI output. The monitor doesn't display anything until the logon screen. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but how can I make the VGA output the primary one at system start. I'm assuming that it's a BIOS issue and not Windows??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 It would be a issue with your bios settings. Is your monitor connected to the motherboard VGA or the graphics card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Both displays are connected to the graphics card. I think the onboard graphics is disabled. If it's as simple as enabling the onboard and using that then I'm happy. I'll check that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I have this problem too but less severe and it could not be helped. There were no settings of boot preference. I got 3 screens connected to a Nvidia GT 1060, 2 of the screens are on its side.. and it chose one of the that is on its side. As far as I know the order is set and cant be changed (if you use one video card). Only way to change it is to change to what kind of connection you send the signal.. normal vga, dvi or HDMI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: Both displays are connected to the graphics card. I think the onboard graphics is disabled. If it's as simple as enabling the onboard and using that then I'm happy. I'll check that now. I asked to confirm you had the monitor connected to graphics card. Best to leave the monitor connected to the graphics card. Check your bios setting to select VGA a as the primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Just thought of something that might be the problem. What input do you have selected for your TV when booting your computer. It could that your graphics card is detecting the TV and connecting to it instead of the monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 I can see three options for the "Primary Display" in the BIOS: Onboard, PCI, and PCI Express. whether I select PCI or PCI express, the HDMI output is selected. When booting, the TV is usually on HDMI 1 for my Android Box, the PC is connected to HDMI2/DVI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 47 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: I can see three options for the "Primary Display" in the BIOS: Onboard, PCI, and PCI Express. whether I select PCI or PCI express, the HDMI output is selected. When booting, the TV is usually on HDMI 1 for my Android Box, the PC is connected to HDMI2/DVI Why don't you switch cables at computer side ? as both are HDMI, it will boot from HDMI1 so connect it to HDMI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Not an option to switch- unfortunately.I have one VGA port and one HDMI port on the graphics card. The monitor can take either but there's no VGA on the TV. Besides that, I need to use the HDMI on the TV for the audio.Sent from my TA-1021 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: I have one VGA port and one HDMI port on the graphics card. I think your card also has a DVI port that is the far right one shown here. Does you monitor have DVI as well. It seems that for some reason on boot your monitor is not being found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 I don't think the monitor has DVI (the card indeed does). I'll need to double check when I get back home.Sent from my TA-1021 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Might be of help. On my PC with VGA the bios order is HDMI DVI VGA and I cant change it because the first active display is selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Yep. No DVI input on the monitor. Searching the Internet found a few other people with similar issues but no solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: Yep. No DVI input on the monitor. Searching the Internet found a few other people with similar issues but no solutions. I also cannot change the order and i got many different ports. It just goes to DVI standard (cant be changed). There is a certain pre programmed order in certain bios models that you just can't change. There is a solution, there are VGA to DVI converter parts so you could have your VGA monitor connect to DVI. (at least i seen connectors that change from VGA to DVI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, ubonjoe said: I think your card also has a DVI port that is the far right one shown here. Does you monitor have DVI as well. It seems that for some reason on boot your monitor is not being found. Its just that in some bios there is a pre arranged way of sending signal as HDMI is the best it is usually selected for the boot. I got the same problem. It boots on a screen that I don't want it to boot on and no way to change it in the bios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 You could try a DVI to HDMI cable (there are stuby plug/socket adaptors too with no cable) I believe the signals are the same just different connector layout...so no need for conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, robblok said: I also cannot change the order and i got many different ports. It just goes to DVI standard (cant be changed). There is a certain pre programmed order in certain bios models that you just can't change. There is a solution, there are VGA to DVI converter parts so you could have your VGA monitor connect to DVI. (at least i seen connectors that change from VGA to DVI) It's not a massive issue. More of a mild annoyance than a real problem because if the TV's in use then I'm wondering if the PC is actually booting our not for a while but I'll check this option out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: It's not a massive issue. More of a mild annoyance than a real problem because if the TV's in use then I'm wondering if the PC is actually booting our not for a while but I'll check this option out. For me its also not a massive problem its just that the monitor it boots on is on its side (A4) so it reads a bit hard if i want to get in the bios. I would rather have it on the monitor that is in the right position but as I am not going into the bios often its not a big problem. I did however investigate the problem a lot at first and found that for my bios you could not set the order. So nothing could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: It's not a massive issue. More of a mild annoyance than a real problem because if the TV's in use then I'm wondering if the PC is actually booting our not for a while but I'll check this option out. I have many notes from the days configuring my media pc's - The AMI bios can default to VGA if onboard graphics are selected + the primary adapter scan is set to onboard + monitor is plugged into the motherboard VGA socket. This forces boot post to use motherboard VGA until the OS takes control of defaults. NOTE this does not work for all AMI bios motherboard and OS configs. AMI Primary Graphics Adapter This item will switch the PCI Bus scanning order while searching for video card. It allows you to select the type of Primary VGA in case of multiple video controllers. The default value of this feature is [PCI]. Configuration options: [Onboard], [PCI] and [PCI Express]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 I have many notes from the days configuring my media pc's - The AMI bios can default to VGA if onboard graphics are selected + the primary adapter scan is set to onboard + monitor is plugged into the motherboard VGA socket. This forces boot post to use motherboard VGA until the OS takes control of defaults.NOTE this does not work for all AMI bios motherboard and OS configs. AMI Primary Graphics Adapter This item will switch the PCI Bus scanning order while searching for video card. It allows you to select the type of Primary VGA in case of multiple video controllers. The default value of this feature is [PCI]. Configuration options: [Onboard], [PCI] and [PCI Express].Thanks,I'll have another play with this later on.Sent from my TA-1021 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Well, after playing around with settings in both the Nvidia control panel and the native Windows settings it seems to be working now. I've absolutely no idea what I did to get it to work though.Hopefully it wasn't just a fluke on that boot...Sent from my ZX81 using a dial-up modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, JaiMaai said: Well, after playing around with settings in both the Nvidia control panel and the native Windows settings it seems to be working now. I've absolutely no idea what I did to get it to work though. Hopefully it wasn't just a fluke on that boot... Sent from my ZX81 using a dial-up modem. 1 False alarm... Back to the original behavior..... Grr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkyBoogar Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Try this (Windows 7) Right click on desktop: >Personalize >Display >Change display settings >Identify >Select "Make this my main display" for the identified monitor >Click Apply and then restart the computer for a test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 16 hours ago, MunkyBoogar said: Try this (Windows 7) Right click on desktop: >Personalize >Display >Change display settings >Identify >Select "Make this my main display" for the identified monitor >Click Apply and then restart the computer for a test. Sorry but that is for windows not for booting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkyBoogar Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 But did you try it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but how can I make the VGA output the primary one at system start. Just turn the HDMI TV off before booting. Nvidia cards default to the HDMI connection if they detect an active monitor on it. Failing that they select DVI or VGA, in order. The other option would be to re-activate the onboard graphics and connect the VGA monitor to that. That will take priority if it is set to do so in the BIOS, with the Nvidia HDMI output only starting up with Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 hours ago, MunkyBoogar said: But did you try it? Tried several settings in Windows and BIOS - no luck. 1 hour ago, KittenKong said: Just turn the HDMI TV off before booting. Nvidia cards default to the HDMI connection if they detect an active monitor on it. Failing that they select DVI or VGA, in order. The other option would be to re-activate the onboard graphics and connect the VGA monitor to that. That will take priority if it is set to do so in the BIOS, with the Nvidia HDMI output only starting up with Windows. Turning the TV off doesn't work, only disconnecting the cable. Not a solution anyway as the TV is usually on and being used as a TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 16 hours ago, MunkyBoogar said: But did you try it? How do you think I know it does not work.. i tried it many times. What your saying is only for the windows environment, not for the bootscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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