rooster59 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 20-year National Strategy endorsed by the NLA The National Legislative Assembly today unanimously approved the National Strategy which will be legally binding for 20 years until 2037 to all government agencies and public organizations. The 20-year National Strategy received 179-0 votes with four abstentions. It will be submitted to His Majesty the King for approval by Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha after which the National Strategy Committee will draft a master plan covering all the six strategic areas. The six strategic areas are security, competitiveness enhancement, social equality, human resources development, green growth and rebalancing and public sector development. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/20-year-national-strategy-endorsed-nla/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-07-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 The perfect instrument for the army to keep dominating politics during 20 years. The most important is not the plan itself, which will not be more than the usual general blah blah. The most important is that the national strategic committee, dominated by the military, has the legal power to be obeyed by government agencies, and also to sanction a government for not respecting any vague objective they choose. And the appointed senate will help too. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 A slippery slope that is only likely to be resolved in not a nice way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bowman Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 This reminds me of growing up on the farm where I could do anything I wanted. As long as my father said ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 If this stands, why have an election? What would be the point? By the way, anyone think this will actually cover everything that will occur during the next twenty years? Anyone? Anyone? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Thailand said: A slippery slope that is only likely to be resolved in not a nice way. Civil War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) This is indeed a very sad day for Thailand. Edited July 7, 2018 by holy cow cm 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, rooster59 said: The National Legislative Assembly today unanimously approved the National Strategy 32 minutes ago, rooster59 said: after which the National Strategy Committee will draft a master plan So they have approved something that doesn't even exist yet !! There was no 20 yr strategy, just it seemed like a good idea... Now it's been approved, we can make up as many silly rules as we want. It goes from amusing, to hilarious, to sad and finally dangerous... I despair for the people of Thailand !! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lungstib Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 A government created from an illegal act formed a parliament representing themselves, created a justice system to insist it was legal, wrote new laws and rules suggesting it was in the peoples interest and now pushes its demands into the far future. Anyone who thinks there is any point in holding an election must be a very optimistic soul. Yesterdays article on Thaksin and Najib has illustrated just how damaging it is to self-interests to lose an election and there is a determination here for that not to happen. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 who would have guessed it......Im so pleased? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, rooster59 said: The 20-year National Strategy received 179-0 votes So not one naysayer. Just puppets dancing to the strings of their leader. I hope someone is taking the names of these people for future reference when required. What goes around will surely come around, just a matter of time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 One of the areas of their control is 'social equality'. In other words: 'You ain't going to get any!' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Gosh.. 179-0! That is even better than Napoleon got when he went for a plebiscite with the rather innocuous question.. "Can I be emperor for life,please?' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said: So they have approved something that doesn't even exist yet !! There was no 20 yr strategy, just it seemed like a good idea... Now it's been approved, we can make up as many silly rules as we want. It goes from amusing, to hilarious, to sad and finally dangerous... I despair for the people of Thailand !! Yes not a good thing a 20 year masterplan voted in without it being clear what was voted about. I see security is in there too, that probably means they won't be able to cut spending to the army. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungstib Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Cadbury said: I hope someone is taking the names of these people for future reference when required. What goes around will surely come around, just a matter of time. I guess they know that which is why the 20 year plan is necessary. By 2038 most of the NLA and the NCPO will be dead and cremated. And still we will be following their demands! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I do have my reservation whether the bill will be endorsed without changes. Recent signs of dissatisfaction with the growing power of the military by the man have manifested in changes to the some laws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pornprong Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, robblok said: Yes not a good thing a 20 year masterplan voted in without it being clear what was voted about. I see security is in there too, that probably means they won't be able to cut spending to the army. But at least Thaksin is gone hey? Talk about cure being worse than the disease. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, pornprong said: But at least Thaksin is gone hey? Talk about cure being worse than the disease. Is it so hard to see they are both bad, and that if one side is bad that does not make the other side good. Is it so hard to condemn both sides for their faults ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fex Bluse Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 The problem is not so much that it is a plan by a military regime. Southeast Asia, even Singapore, is a strongman region. The most serious issue is that it's a plan drawn up by incompetent luddite dinosaurs who are either incompetent or malicious. One silver lining will be a near guarantee that in 20 years' time we'll all still be able to afford this undeveloped country full of impoverished, available women. Surely, the 20 year plan is not going to move Thailand forward. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pornprong Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, robblok said: Is it so hard to see they are both bad, and that if one side is bad that does not make the other side good. Is it so hard to condemn both sides for their faults ? Is it so hard to see that they are not EQUALLY bad and only one of the two has the chance of allowing democracy to take hold in Thailand. What further proof is needed of this than the fact Thaksin never tried to implement a unilateral, unquestionable and undemocratic 20 year plan (or an unelected senate, or a rigged constitution or attitude adjustment camps for his enemies). Then again, four years after the coup and there is still a few fanboys around so I guess it is a bit difficult for an ignorant fascist few to see passed their anti-democracy prejudices. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 An army concoction approved by army shills. The predictability of the dimwits who usurped power is mind numbing. Young politicians want to repeal it legally after the elections for which they have already been threatened by the military. They continue to ruin a perfectly good country. We can thank the democrats for this sad autocracy . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, robblok said: Is it so hard to see they are both bad, and that if one side is bad that does not make the other side good. Is it so hard to condemn both sides for their faults ? No it is not, however the sad reality is that one side could be voted out of office, whilst the other cannot, not even in the foreseeable future. Remember the warnings 4.5 years ago, be careful what you wish for ? This is precisely what we were referring to then. By the way, it always cracks me up if the NLA gets mentioned in a news article. It is quite clearly nothing but a rubber stamp parliament. This time they even voted unanimously. Hilarious ? I don't understand why they even bother, all of the NLA members were appointed by the NCPO and the Pm. I understand why some fall asleep on the job. Edited July 7, 2018 by sjaak327 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Recent signs of dissatisfaction with the growing power of the military by the man It is not the growing power of the military whose absolute power has never waned since 1932 but the emergence of another possibly dissatisfied with the ineffectiveness of that absolute power. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, pornprong said: Is it so hard to see that they are not EQUALLY bad and only one of the two has the chance of allowing democracy to take hold in Thailand. What further proof is needed of this than the fact Thaksin never tried to implement a unilateral, unquestionable and undemocratic 20 year plan (or an unelected senate, or a rigged constitution or attitude adjustment camps for his enemies). Then again, four years after the coup and there is still a few fanboys around so I guess it is a bit difficult for an ignorant fascist few to see passed their anti-democracy prejudices. Where did i write Equally ? My point is simple if a party breaks the law they need to be punished by the courts. All that moaning about who did not get convicted to justify innocence is stupid. People should focus defending innocent people and making sure guilty ones are punished. Instead of constantly defending people guilty of corruption by saying others are going free its far better to try to get those who seem to escape justice under the spotlight and put pressure to get those convicted too. That way you try to work for a better Thailand instead of breaking it down by defending corrupt people and giving the politicians even more the feeling they are above the law. So you were here 4,5 years ago under an other name.. bad boy. Edited July 7, 2018 by robblok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: No it is not, however the sad reality is that one side could be voted out of office, whilst the other cannot, not even in the foreseeable future. Remember the warnings 4.5 years ago, be careful what you wish for ? This is precisely what we were referring to then. By the way, it always cracks me up if the NLA gets mentioned in a news article. It is quite clearly nothing but a rubber stamp parliament. This time they even voted unanimously. Hilarious ? I don't understand why they even bother, all of the NLA members were appointed by the NCPO and the Pm. I understand why some fall asleep on the job. Why is it you and others always come with people can be voted out. That is not how it goes in a working democracy. Its not the people who should vote them out its the judiciary that should go after law breakers and punish them. Its almost as if your saying its ok to be corrupt as long as your voted in because the people can vote you out. The NLA is a rubber stamp organisation, but that does not mean they can sleep on the job they get paid for it and those that fall asleep should be kicked out and pay should be docked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, robblok said: Why is it you and others always come with people can be voted out. That is not how it goes in a working democracy. Its not the people who should vote them out its the judiciary that should go after law breakers and punish them. Its almost as if your saying its ok to be corrupt as long as your voted in because the people can vote you out. The NLA is a rubber stamp organisation, but that does not mean they can sleep on the job they get paid for it and those that fall asleep should be kicked out and pay should be docked. Of course that is how it goes in a working democracy ! You are voted in for a certain term, and if after that term you performed poorly, you gain less votes and others can give it a go. In case of corruption or breaking the law, there were ample checks and balances in place. The last two PTP PM's both have been removed from office by those. That the Thai electorate consistently voted for Thaksin or his proxies might give you a clue on how the opposition is perceived. That IS also democracy, trying to accept that the majority choice does not necessarily be your choice. By the way how is Prayuth going to be voted out of office, or how is he even being subjected to checks and balances or accountability ? How could the judiciary ever go after him, after all he IS a lawbreaker. As said by someone else, the cure is much much worse than the disease. That much is absolutely certain, again be careful what you wish for. But to see one needs to stop illogical hate, because hate always blinds the judgement.... Edited July 7, 2018 by sjaak327 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: Of course that is how it goes in a working democracy ! You are voted in for a certain term, and if after that term you performed poorly, you gain less votes and others can give it a go. In case of corruption or breaking the law, there were ample checks and balances in place. The last two PTP PM's both have been removed from office by those. That the Thai electorate consistently voted for Thaksin or his proxies might give you a clue on how the opposition is perceived. That IS also democracy, trying to accept that the majority choice does not necessarily be your choice. You do realize that you are embarking on a hopeless quest.don't you? The compass only points one way as far as the poster you are referring to is concerned-four years of the same stuff-endlessly regurgitated without thought and without prompting. Like those toys when we were kids..knock 'em down,spring right up again. Edited July 7, 2018 by Odysseus123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, robblok said: Where did i write Equally ? My point is simple if a party breaks the law they need to be punished by the courts. All that moaning about who did not get convicted to justify innocence is stupid. People should focus defending innocent people and making sure guilty ones are punished. Instead of constantly defending people guilty of corruption by saying others are going free its far better to try to get those who seem to escape justice under the spotlight and put pressure to get those convicted too. That way you try to work for a better Thailand instead of breaking it down by defending corrupt people and giving the politicians even more the feeling they are above the law. If the Junta and Thaksin are not equally bad can you enlighten us as to which side has caused and continues to cause the greater harm to Thailand and why you obsess over Thaksin and barely mention the junta. Interesting that you have taken time to mention "politicians even more the feeling they are above the law" yet make no mention of Generals who clearly have no regard for the law. Why do you think that is? Fanboy. 2 hours ago, robblok said: So you were here 4,5 years ago under an other name.. bad boy. All of your posts are accessible today, you for instance, have 589 pages of fanboy nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Now, I'm just spit balling here, but can't any set of laws or rules be changed by any future government by perhaps, let's say, a NEW article 45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomta Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, robblok said: The NLA is a rubber stamp organisation, but that does not mean they can sleep on the job they get paid for it and those that fall asleep should be kicked out and pay should be docked. What the hell does it matter? The NLA is a charade. They might as well sleep. The though of having their pay docked will disturb their peaceful dreams. It's form over substance and the thinnest veneer of form at that. If you were a policeman, Robblok, you'd be pasting parking tickets on the getaway car while the gang is loading the loot into the boot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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