NACC waiting for info on Prawit’s watches from manufacturers

[Lupatria]

17 hours ago, worgeordie said:

"not give a definite time frame for the completion of the investigation"

I think it will be the 12th of never.

regards worgeordie

As the guy claims, he is not the buyer of the watches. Hence, he cannot be subject to customer privacy issues of the manufacturers. I guess the NAAC is playing the waiting game, as Mr. Watchtower's 73rd birthday is in August.

 

P.S.

Birthday cards are welcomed, but please restrain sending expensive watches as gifts, they always create confusion.

[baboon]

14 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Does anyone remember how long they first stated the investigation should take? 

 

Yes. It was supposed to be wrapped up on January the 8th.

[Eric Loh]

The inquiry is about him not declaring assets exceeding 200,000 B as required by the law. The onus is totally his to proof that the watches don’t belong to him and not the other way around. Seem he is resting easy while the NACC helping him find the all possible angles to vindicate & delaying tactics for him. Simply abhorring blatant corruption

[SheungWan]

17 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

Why are they bothering, this is over we know he has got away with it.  Not good,  don't like it but there you go. NACC are friends of these creeps.

 

18 hours ago, robblok said:

I am happy its not dead and buried, the press should keep it in the spotlight that is their job.

Yes. No excuse to walk away

[SheungWan]

11 hours ago, sjaak327 said:

Does anyone still believes this agency is independent and unbiased. If his surname would have been Shinawatra he would be impeached months ago. And a criminal prosecution would have started, with Prayuth using 44 to confiscate assets well before a guilty verdict

He either has the watches or he 'borrowed' them as he claimed. Maybe they could ask the alleged owner(s).

Flat out bullshit this statement... It places yet more doubt on anything this agency does, it needs to be discontinued and replaced by honest and independent people.

I know I get a few knickers in a twist by saying this, but the evidence of what Thaksin claims becomes more and more evident....

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Thaksin is as rotten as the watch-wearer. No free pass for him.

[SheungWan]

3 hours ago, mikebell said:

NAAC besmirches its reputation with every day that passes without an arrest/recommendation.  Each BS utterance they make just adds petrol to the flames.

 

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Waiting for what? For price in Europe? Price is Europe is irrelevant. Even if purchased in Europe as to bring it in still have to pay tax. Or to confirm its authenticity ? In which case he is guilty of buying fakes if not genuine 

These watches are not fakes. However they have opened up a new can of worms with the punting of purchases to overseas locations. It is extremely unlikely that any watch purchased abroad was declared at customs for taxation so whoever bought them is now on an extra hook. The cover-up always brings more trouble. This thing ain't going away.

[Oziex1]

I say again, this guy is the Junta's number 2. We know how this ends.

[Happyman58]

We will have to keep a good watch on how this all pans out. If I was a betting man the odds would be 1/Odds on nothing will be done about it 2/ Evens they make out they are trying to do something about it but just all b/s 3/ 1000-1 he will be charged over it 

[Happyman58]

2 hours ago, baboon said:

Yes. It was supposed to be wrapped up on January the 8th.

oh slight slip up. The year they were talking was January 8th 2030

[Jonmarleesco]

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

more information is still needed from the manufacturers of the watches in other countries.

Such as? 

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The inquiry is about him not declaring assets exceeding 200,000 B as required by the law. The onus is totally his to proof that the watches don’t belong to him and not the other way around. Seem he is resting easy while the NACC helping him find the all possible angles to vindicate & delaying tactics for him. Simply abhorring blatant corruption

 

The inquiry initially started as one of not declaring assets. Since he's been pictured with a somewhat large collection the inquiry must include where the money came from to purchase those assets and if not bought locally proof customs duties were paid.

So it they are borrowed as claimed, then those who lent them will have to show where the money came from and if bought overseas show customs receipts.

 

So of course know one wants to do that. That's the real issue they are trying to fudge and sweep away. They already tried to kill it by announcing he didn't have to declare them if they were borrowed. But that back fired when journalists wanted to know who lent them and where they got them from.

 

At the end of day, just like all the other untouchables, the worst thing that can happen is you have to do a runner to go and live in luxury somewhere else.

[sjaak327]

3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Thaksin is as rotten as the watch-wearer. No free pass for him.

The point is of course, there should not be a free pass for the watch-wearer, the evidence is very clear, that this is exactly what he is getting. There is no doubt the NACC is anything but independent and unbiassed, the sooner it is discontinued the better. 

[sjaak327]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

The inquiry initially started as one of not declaring assets. Since he's been pictured with a somewhat large collection the inquiry must include where the money came from to purchase those assets and if not bought locally proof customs duties were paid.

So it they are borrowed as claimed, then those who lent them will have to show where the money came from and if bought overseas show customs receipts.

 

So of course know one wants to do that. That's the real issue they are trying to fudge and sweep away. They already tried to kill it by announcing he didn't have to declare them if they were borrowed. But that back fired when journalists wanted to know who lent them and where they got them from.

 

At the end of day, just like all the other untouchables, the worst thing that can happen is you have to do a runner to go and live in luxury somewhere else.

If it isn't clear by now he does not need to do a runner, then I don't know what more relevant clues one needs ! The NAAC isn't really investigating the issue, not because of what you claim, but because they simply do not want to investigate. They only handle cases where the Shinawatra family is involved. You know the likes of Samak doing a cooking show, or Yingluck being "negligent". In cases such as the murder of almost 100 citizens by the army, or a guy with a large collection of watches, they either flat out refuse to investigate, or make silly illogical excuses to drag it on and on. 

 

If this is still not blatantly obvious, I don't know what more evidence needs to come to light. In any case, as a core member of the NCPO, he has amnesty in any case. Prawit has zero to fear. This is all just a show, and some people are falling for it, amazing !

 

 

[futsukayoi]

23 hours ago, coulson said:

They can confirm the actual owner, and the NACC can then compare the actual owners names against the names of all the dead people the DPM was friendly with.

 

Surely the names of the dead people is irrelevant.  The watches would now be owned by the living heirs.  They need to confirm that they have agreed to extend the loan of their property or ol fatty has stolen them.

[baboon]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

At the end of day, just like all the other untouchables, the worst thing that can happen is you have to do a runner to go and live in luxury somewhere else.

That's actually quite a climbdown for anyone who likes to strut around and be seen to break the law with impunity...

[coulson]

2 hours ago, futsukayoi said:

 

Surely the names of the dead people is irrelevant.  The watches would now be owned by the living heirs.  They need to confirm that they have agreed to extend the loan of their property or ol fatty has stolen them.

And you would think that was pretty easy documentation to come about to on these shores. As I said before, blame the foreigners.

[Artisi]

On 7/20/2018 at 5:28 PM, colinneil said:

NACC denies dragging feet in the investigation of Ole Fattys watch scandal.

Priceless  absolutely priceless.

They're dragging their feet and hope it all goes away in case they find out all the watches are knock-off's and wouldn't want to upset Toadie of Toad Hall. 

[scorecard]

On 7/20/2018 at 6:27 PM, robblok said:

I am happy its not dead and buried, the press should keep it in the spotlight that is their job.

 Good point, but unfortunately the press never follow up on anything.

[SheungWan]

37 minutes ago, Artisi said:

They're dragging their feet and hope it all goes away in case they find out all the watches are knock-off's and wouldn't want to upset Toadie of Toad Hall. 

No-one is buying that and nobody involved is suggesting that. The idea that the watches are fakes is the product of forum over-imaginative minds.

[SheungWan]

6 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

I say again, this guy is the Junta's number 2. We know how this ends.

It ends with them out of office, just like with Thaksin.

[SheungWan]

4 hours ago, sjaak327 said:

The point is of course, there should not be a free pass for the watch-wearer, the evidence is very clear, that this is exactly what he is getting. There is no doubt the NACC is anything but independent and unbiassed, the sooner it is discontinued the better. 

No it isn't. Keep their noses to the wheel. Maybe some Thaksinistas would like to get on the act and get their man off as well in the slipstream, but no dice.

[SheungWan]

3 hours ago, sjaak327 said:

If it isn't clear by now he does not need to do a runner, then I don't know what more relevant clues one needs ! The NAAC isn't really investigating the issue, not because of what you claim, but because they simply do not want to investigate. They only handle cases where the Shinawatra family is involved. You know the likes of Samak doing a cooking show, or Yingluck being "negligent". In cases such as the murder of almost 100 citizens by the army, or a guy with a large collection of watches, they either flat out refuse to investigate, or make silly illogical excuses to drag it on and on. 

If this is still not blatantly obvious, I don't know what more evidence needs to come to light. In any case, as a core member of the NCPO, he has amnesty in any case. Prawit has zero to fear. This is all just a show, and some people are falling for it, amazing !

Muddying up the waters with Thaksin related issues is the card that those in charge would like to play and Thaksin supporters in their turn may want to chime in with their side of the coin, but it isn't going to work. Even though some forum contributors are now trying to slip it in.

[Artisi]

50 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

No-one is buying that and nobody involved is suggesting that. The idea that the watches are fakes is the product of forum over-imaginative minds.

Did you miss the irony, sorry.

[rkidlad]

Everything the junta do. Every corrupt official they take down. Every time they preach morality and the higher ground. Every time they ask for more time or understanding. Every time they say Thailand is unique and special and needs its own form of ‘democracy’, bla bla bla, they should always be met with two simple words to ruin any credence of legitimacy or morality they think they have;

 

’Prawit’s watches’. 

 

 

[sjaak327]

19 hours ago, SheungWan said:

No it isn't. Keep their noses to the wheel. Maybe some Thaksinistas would like to get on the act and get their man off as well in the slipstream, but no dice.

of course the evidence is crystal clear, the NACC is not seriously investigating this issue. Because the NACC is not independent nor un biassed, there are some many clear examples, anyone trying to deny this is living in lala land. 

 

This person will never be held accountable, that is a very clear fact. Pray tell how it can take over 7 months for a simple asset investigation to be concluded ? Simple, if you don't investigate, it can take forever, or until such time that people forget about it. 

[sjaak327]

19 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Muddying up the waters with Thaksin related issues is the card that those in charge would like to play and Thaksin supporters in their turn may want to chime in with their side of the coin, but it isn't going to work. Even though some forum contributors are now trying to slip it in.

"Muddying up the waters" ?

 

Why is Prawit still in office is the question that needs answering, I already answered it. And you brought nothing to the table to contradict this. A lot of words, but you say absolutely nothing, except some vague but Thaksin, THAT is not going to work. 

 

Fact is, the junta does not need to do anything, as they are above the law, courtesy of their very own constitution. This is all just a show, the NACC is not investigating the watches, and simply buys time, as eventually it goes away or Prawit goes away. Hardly rocket science. And yes, it seems to be working just fine ?

 

 

[wabothai]

These guys really are out of touch with reality.

[pomchop]

box the watches up and send them to the red bull killer.....he can  better keep track of the time when the statute of limitations end so he can return to thailand with no worries, buy a new porsche and give the watches to his buddies who allowed him to get away with his crimes....

[jerojero]

Try the time frame of 'Never'.

[Happyman58]

14 hours ago, wabothai said:

These guys really are out of touch with reality.

You think they really care about that? Long as the money keeps flowing their way life is sweet. I am actually going to Laos for a couple of days soon and they are a communist country. Thailand is supposed to be a free democratic country. To be quiet honest I can't see any difference between Laos which is governed by a gov with no opposition and Thailand which is governed by an unelected gov with an opposition that is so weak and constitution that is non-existent. They just make up the rules as they go along. Because if they had a constitution here surely it would state you must have an election after so many years They have been in power for 4 years so what constitution are they following? I would say "All for one and one for all constitution" Oh I believe eventually they will have a mock election soon but only after they have the opposition on its knees and they can't lose Feb for elections hate to disappoint readers will not happen unless they are absolutely sure they can't lose. Actually, the frog the Pm was kissing would have more chance of winning the Thai election than the opposition.