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Plan to turn former inmates into arborists proposed

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Plan to turn former inmates into arborists proposed

By The Nation

 

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A project is in the pipeline to train soon-to-be-released and newly released inmates to become arborists so they have better shot at getting a career and becoming socially reintegrated.

 

This idea was proposed to the Office of the Affairs and Projects under HRH Princess Bajrakitiyabha’s Initiatives by Santi Opaspakornkij, coordinator for BIG Trees, a Bangkok-based conservation group famous for its tree conservation efforts.

 

While tabling the idea at a Justice Ministry seminar on July 25-26, Santi said his group would provide six-day training sessions at correctional facilities that have greenery so inmates get hands-on experience. His group will also arrange a six-day workshop at the 30-rai park in Thammasat University’s Rangsit Campus. The park was built to mark the 100th birthday anniversary of late university rector Puey Ungpakorn. 

 

Santi pointed out that Thailand needs more than 10,000 skilled arbortists to meet demands made by the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration and many universities. 

 

Jirapa Sinthunava, director of the Office of the Affairs and Projects, lauded the plan saying it could immediately be implemented for soon-to-be-released inmates at Chiang Rai’s Doi Hang and Trat’s Khao Rakham remand prisons as both places had plenty of trees.

 

Meanwhile, the office will coordinate with the Corrections Department, via its “Kamlangjai” project, to further discuss the implementation of the plan. 

 

The office oversees the “Kamlangjai” or “Inspire” project, under the Royal initiative of HRH Princess Bajrakitiyabha, which was launched to reach out to incarcerated Thai women by providing special health, pregnancy and childcare services that are normally not available in prisons. Its vocational programmes also equip these women with skills required to find employment once they are released. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30351472

 
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I sincerely applaud the effort to find a career and assist prisoners re-integrate back into society; Western societies could and should learn from this initiative.

 

I have no idea what it takes to become an "arborist", but if provides an income for newly-released cons, great. However, my proverbial 'Spidey sense' is blinking madly at

 

"...Jirapa Sinthunava, director of the Office of the Affairs and Projects, lauded the plan saying it could immediately be implemented for soon-to-be-released inmates at Chiang Rai’s Doi Hang and Trat’s Khao Rakham remand prisons as both places had plenty of trees..."

 

Simply having 'a lot of trees' may or may not entail a need for an Arborist'. And if 6-12 days of training is all that is required, then this is simply manual labor rather than a career.

 

But, anything is better than nothing; good on all of you for doing something and/or trying.

 

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30 minutes ago, webfact said:

Plan to turn former inmates into arborists proposed

This sounds like a better proposal than the earlier one which had inmates working at being gunsmiths.

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1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I have no idea what it takes to become an "arborist"

It's certainly better than becoming an arsonist.

Mind you, becoming a tree surgeon here doesn't seem to require much in the way of arboreal elegance, just an ability to hack off all the leaves and branches. 

So did the other inmates make sea captain's?

8 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

It's certainly better than becoming an arsonist.

Mind you, becoming a tree surgeon here doesn't seem to require much in the way of arboreal elegance, just an ability to hack off all the leaves and branches. 

becoming an expert at controlled burning to limit forest fires could combine the two.

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After spending 36 years as a qualified arborist and 3 years of prior on hand training I have yet to see any professional prunning work anywhere in Thailand but one has to admire how resiliant the trees here are after being completely scalped !. Firstly they will have to explain what an Arborist is as many have asked my previous employment when told an Arborist they haven't got a clue !!!! they reply forest worker ha! With what safety equipment and 3 days of training it could be classed as a death sentence here for the workers not the trees !!!!

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19 minutes ago, tracker1 said:

After spending 36 years as a qualified arborist and 3 years of prior on hand training I have yet to see any professional prunning work anywhere in Thailand but one has to admire how resiliant the trees here are after being completely scalped !. Firstly they will have to explain what an Arborist is as many have asked my previous employment when told an Arborist they haven't got a clue !!!! they reply forest worker ha! With what safety equipment and 3 days of training it could be classed as a death sentence here for the workers not the trees !!!!

Is being a tree surgeon an option for someone who didn't make the grade in medical school? 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Plan to turn former inmates into arborists proposed

Being naturally criminal minded , I would've thought police officer, or ,maybe taxi driver, a more natural progression. 

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It makes sense. What Thais do to trees here is criminal. They might as well continue a life of crime.

I sincerely applaud the effort to find a career and assist prisoners re-integrate back into society; Western societies could and should learn from this initiative.
 
I have no idea what it takes to become an "arborist", but if provides an income for newly-released cons, great. However, my proverbial 'Spidey sense' is blinking madly at
 
"...Jirapa Sinthunava, director of the Office of the Affairs and Projects, lauded the plan saying it could immediately be implemented for soon-to-be-released inmates at Chiang Rai’s Doi Hang and Trat’s Khao Rakham remand prisons as both places had plenty of trees..."
 
Simply having 'a lot of trees' may or may not entail a need for an Arborist'. And if 6-12 days of training is all that is required, then this is simply manual labor rather than a career.
 
But, anything is better than nothing; good on all of you for doing something and/or trying.
 
I agree. As far as the UK goes, this type of scheme, for a variety of occupations, has been running inside prisons and upon release for many years. As a retired Probation Officer with 36 years experience, education and job training coupled with a proper offer of employment upon release is the only realistic way to reduce crime and reoffending. I was involved in the setting up of e-learning projects for basic literacy and numeracy plus practical fork lift truck and building industry training in prisons and the community for 4 years before I retired and witnessed the benefits first hand. However, all this has now been lost due to the current UK government's cutbacks, privatisation and complete lack of understanding of the criminal justice system. Well done Thailand for seizing the opportunity to break the cycle of deprivation and criminality!

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Is there a shortage of charcoal expected?

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Will be able to spot the Rose wood quicker so they can steal it.

3 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I sincerely applaud the effort to find a career and assist prisoners re-integrate back into society; Western societies could and should learn from this initiative.

 

I have no idea what it takes to become an "arborist", but if provides an income for newly-released cons, great. However, my proverbial 'Spidey sense' is blinking madly at

 

"...Jirapa Sinthunava, director of the Office of the Affairs and Projects, lauded the plan saying it could immediately be implemented for soon-to-be-released inmates at Chiang Rai’s Doi Hang and Trat’s Khao Rakham remand prisons as both places had plenty of trees..."

 

Simply having 'a lot of trees' may or may not entail a need for an Arborist'. And if 6-12 days of training is all that is required, then this is simply manual labor rather than a career.

 

But, anything is better than nothing; good on all of you for doing something and/or trying.

 

I fully agree with your assessment. It certainly a well intended initiative to give ex-inmates a new perspective on life after their release. But just like you, I question the length of that apparent job training. What can ex inmates learn in terms of a profession and in order to help them make a "career" in 6 days?

 

In my home country, on-the-job-training for professions like gardeners and indeed "arborists" will last at least two YEARS. Being an arborist entices a lot more than being able to  saw off tree branches along city streets.

 

My second concern is that it appears that all those inmates are more or less summarily subjected to becoming "arborists". I could imagine that the vast majority among them is neither interested in nor naturally gifted to taking up that profession.   

 

Hidden Agenda:   Jirapa has a financial interest in harvesting his tree crops asap

 

and he didn't qualify for soldier slaves

2 hours ago, tracker1 said:

After spending 36 years as a qualified arborist 

1 hour ago, graemeaylward said:

As a retired Probation Officer with 36 years experience

No relevant experience here, though I do have a 36 inch plant on my balcony... 

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1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

No relevant experience here, though I do have a 36 inch plant on my balcony... 

Maybe you lock em up whereas I knock em up or down whatever your desire !

2 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

Is being a tree surgeon an option for someone who didn't make the grade in medical school? 

Well the uneducated know them as tree doctors if that's any help !

2 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

I fully agree with your assessment. It certainly a well intended initiative to give ex-inmates a new perspective on life after their release. But just like you, I question the length of that apparent job training. What can ex inmates learn in terms of a profession and in order to help them make a "career" in 6 days?

 

In my home country, on-the-job-training for professions like gardeners and indeed "arborists" will last at least two YEARS. Being an arborist entices a lot more than being able to  saw off tree branches along city streets.

 

My second concern is that it appears that all those inmates are more or less summarily subjected to becoming "arborists". I could imagine that the vast majority among them is neither interested in nor naturally gifted to taking up that profession.   

Like you and Samui I also was a bit surprised by the 6 days training. It really is not enough, it should be much longer and done by good teachers. One would say that inmates have time enough. Maybe cost is an issue not sure. The idea is good... but the execution leaves a lot to be desired. 

So far, gunsmiths, fishing boat crew, and now arborists. I must say Ido like this one best. Give

each a chainsaw, a ladder, and some rope and away they go. 

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