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Land Transport to review move to increase fine for driving without license


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2 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

This does nothing to elevate the problem, fines should be a deterrent, therefore equal for all, if it is easy to pay it is not a deterrent therefore useless.

I think you just proved tomacht8's point. That is why the wealthy need to be fined more ( so it won't be easy).

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3 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Actually not such a bad idea to bring in changes on a step by step basis:

 

- License free from now to 30 June 2019.

 

- Caught no license from now to 30 June 2019 - fine 1,500Baht. Not paid within 30 days add 20Baht a day, etc.

 

- Caught no license after 30 June 2019 - fine - 5,000Baht. No paid within 30 days add 40Baht a day. Not paid in full 60 days go to jail not released until all fines paid.

 

Or something similar.... 

And:

After 30 June 2019 maximum fine - 5,000Baht.

Second time caught - 10,000Baht

Third time caught - 10,000Baht and 7 days jail

 

etc.

Agree with reduction and staggered penalties.   Might add to this 'confiscation of motorbike or vehicle' for 7 days or to be recovered 2000 baht.  This may make parents react if family vehicle was going to also be taken away.

 

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I was at Chonburi DLT yesterday 30/08 renewing my 5 year licence, got there at 0645 am, by the time the place opened it was banged out, apparently it has been manic since the increase in the fine of driving with no licence was mooted, the strain was also showing in the attitude of some of the staff who normally perform their duties with a quiet stoicism.

 

Also quite a few illiterate poor people in there asking for help from their fellow Thais. 

 

I happen to also believe that the fines are currently unrealistic but should be levied as a % of income or worth, there is no point fining a dirt poor farmer ฿50,000 but at the same time it would be a drop in the ocean for more affluent Thais or ex pats.

 

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Many don't even have B10,000 salary...any fine amount could not be paid. Somehow they have obtained a motorbike or car, purchased or perhaps borrowed...from the family, or a friends maybe. For some any fine amount is not a deterrent, they can't pay anyway, they don't care. No license, therefore no insurance. The vehicle is also probably not taxed. In the event of them causing an accident, there is no chance of any compensation for any victims...they have no money. Perhaps simply confiscate the vehicle for a period for a first offence, and compel them to attend instruction from an official driving instructor (are they qualified to instruct, or licensed?...I don't know) to obtain a license within a certain period before being able to retrieve it. If they don't then the vehicle would be disposed of. They would have to use a driving/riding school vehicle for the purpose. For a second offence with no license, confiscate the vehicle permanently. For any offence after that, jail.

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       This is the way it seems to go these days.  Something beneficial is proposed, such as this proposal for increasing fines, which are ridiculously low and serve as no deterrent.  Some people protest and get some publicity--very easy now with social media.  The proposal is then killed, even though a quieter majority might have been in favor of it.  

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16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Land Transport Department will review its proposal to increase the amounts of fine for motorists driving without driving licenses following strong opposition from members of the public and objection from Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha. 

I'd say unf__king believable. But TiT, where all is believable.

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Must be difficult trying to balance bringing in new laws versus staying popular with the public for next years vote...

my guess is this will be shelved for another year to get the votes in the back pocket then have another go after the election is won or maybe don't even bother... let the Thais have it their own way.... complete freedom on the roads!

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12 hours ago, balo said:

But will the fines be paid by the locals on 10k monthly salaries ?  Of course not , 2000 is probably going to hurt them enough .   

 

Instead of fines they should just confiscate the bike , and ask them to get a license for free if they learn how to drive . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trouble is you don’t have to learn to drive to get a license in Thailand, a 6yr old could pass it. 45 minutes watching a video (no one slightest bit interested )8 mins around a compound not going near a road. Thank you very much sir pay at the desk away you go with license in your shiny new unpaid for Chelsea tractor to maim as many people as you like.

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Look,let’s stop pretending (by offering solutions) that there is any serious intention to address the RTA problem,nor any vision on how to achieve that even if there were. Couple that with no real desire on the part of the populace anyway and of course all that will emerge is cosmetic window dressing. 

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22 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the maximum fine to 50,000 baht along with a three-month jail term, claiming such stringent penalty is designed to help solve traffic problems.

Interesting....not to save lives...but to solve traffic problems?...Why not just conviscate the offender's vehicle then?

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Confiscating the motorbike is the better solution.  The owner gets the bike back when providing proof of valid license.
IF, the "offender" is riding another persons bike.  Then a bond of some sort put on the driver, refundable upon showing valid license and confiscate the bike.  The owner of the bike must come to collect the bike showing ownership.

Sound reasonable?


 

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7 hours ago, Sprigger said:

Trouble is you don’t have to learn to drive to get a license in Thailand, a 6yr old could pass it. 45 minutes watching a video (no one slightest bit interested )8 mins around a compound not going near a road.

I agree, this is something that has to change.

 

But who's gonna pay for the driving school ? Minimum 20 hours on the roads first with a teacher and then try to pass the test .  

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Personally, I am less concerned with licensing and more concerned with how people drive. Just because someone has a license in their pocket does not mean they are good drivers or they will drive safely. 

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On 8/31/2018 at 3:08 AM, balo said:

But will the fines be paid by the locals on 10k monthly salaries ?  Of course not , 2000 is probably going to hurt them enough .   

 

Instead of fines they should just confiscate the bike , and ask them to get a license for free if they learn how to drive . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AGREED, but why on earth do they wait 50 years to suddenly become aware of the need to upgrade fines.

 

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