Must Read Breaking News: British cave divers also rescued four trapped Thai rescuers in Tham Luang Cave

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Breaking News: British cave divers also rescued four trapped Thai rescuers in Tham Luang Cave

by Tony Brocklebank

 

Rick Stanton at Hidden Earth 2018. Photo: Linda Wilson

 

When Rick Stanton and John Volanthen surfaced in Chamber 3 of Tham Luang Cave on day 6 of the rescue to find four people waiting for them they first thought they’d somehow found the boys of the trapped Wild Boar team. In fact they’d discovered four lost Thai rescuers who had been trapped by the rising floodwaters. In the chaos of the early days of the rescue the absence of the men had been unreported and so had not been noticed by the Thai authorities and or the outside world. What followed was a dramatic and unparalleled “snatch” rescue mission perfectly conceived and executed as they dived the four men through three sumps to safety.

 

Rick Stanton recounted the story of the rescue in a detailed one and half hour long lecture at Hidden Earth, held at Churchill Academy and Sixth Form in North Somerset, an annual conference for cavers organised by the the British Cave Research Association and the British Caving Association. Many other details of the rescue were also explained to a packed audience.

 

The Tham Luang rescue began on Saturday 23rd June after the Wild Boars team were reported missing and their bikes were found at the cave entrance. On day two searchers had penetrated around 1500m into the cave to the Sam Yaek junction, some way past Chamber 3 which would eventually become the site of the Thai Navy Seal dive base. The British Cave Rescue Council received a request from Thai government on Tuesday June 26th and by late that evening a three man team, Rick Stanton, John Volanthen and Rob Harper were en route to Bangkok on a Thai Airways flight. By this time heavy rain had prevented further searching. They arrived at the rescue site the next day and made a reconnaissance dive towards chamber 3, which was now cut off from the cave entrance.

 

Full Story: https://darknessbelow.co.uk/breaking-news-british-cave-divers-also-rescued-four-trapped-thai-rescuers-in-tham-luang-cave/

 

-- British Cave Rescue Council 2018-09-26

 

[trainman34014]

'Authorities' here will want to play this one down as they didn't even know their own people were missing.  Shows how shambolic the whole rescue mission was at the outset !

[Thailand]

Oops!

[Enoon]

56 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:

'Authorities' here will want to play this one down as they didn't even know their own people were missing.  Shows how shambolic the whole rescue mission was at the outset !

 

The message is that there would have been 17 (not 13) dead people but for foreign intervention.

 

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, trainman34014 said:

'Authorities' here will want to play this one down as they didn't even know their own people were missing.  Shows how shambolic the whole rescue mission was at the outset !

The whole rescue mission was probably going well until the PM arrived with his entourage and took control. Then the wheels fell off, as they normally do when he gets involved. 

[Ossy]

Proof, if it was necessary, that things were not as they should be, down there in that organised chaos of a rescue mission.

Slate me if you feel inclined, but concern that things were not going as planned was detailed in chapter 4 of that caving conspiracy book I was ‘plugging’ last month; concern not only felt by the UK divers, but by the co-conspirators themselves. There were too many ‘helpers’ drafted into the mission by junta factions that had not been part of the plan and it’s likely now, with this new revelation, that some heads may roll. Mr Downey’s uncovering of the conspiracy may prove to hold more water than even I read into it. We’ll soon see.

Edited September 26, 2018 by Ossy
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[CeeGee]

I wonder who “forgot” to mention this to the assembled press of the world and why?

Could it have anything to do with face,Thai fail have to have farang help.Who would be brave enough to admit that

[from the home of CC]

That's an amazing story of some amazing men, and I'm glad people are going to know about it. I don't think not getting pats on the back in the media at the time bothered the people who earned them. They knew what they had done and I'm sure that was good enough for them. True heroes for sure.

[CeeGee]

I think you missed the point,up to now there has been no mention of four trapped “rescuers” that’s the forgotten part

[webfact]

Untold story of rescue of 4 Thais trapped in Tham Luang cave by British divers

 

 

Scarcely anyone knew about the rescue of four Thais trapped in flooded Tham Luang cave by two British cave divers days before they found the 13 Wild Board and their coach still alive inside the cave.

 

This untold episode of yet another rescue mission – low-key though but as dangerous – was unveiled to The Telegraph by the two divers  themselves –  Richard Stanton and John Volanthen.

 

According to The Telegraph Online on Wednesday, the two divers were totally unaware that there were four Thais trapped in the flooded cave besides the 13 Wild Boars. The four Thai adults were trying to find the children but had themselves become trapped by floodwater.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/untold-story-of-rescue-of-4-thais-trapped-in-tham-luang-cave-by-british-divers/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-09-27

[outsider]

Not a single whimper of gratitude from the four gits. At least I haven't read about it from any of the news-feed here. I wonder if they are just plainly ungrateful, or have been asked to shut up to save Thai face. Perhaps both. 

[Artisi]

How will his brilliance ensure this small unimportant episode of the "cave rescue" doesn't get featured in any movie being considered.

 

Guess if a Thai movie there is no problem, just threaten jail time for spreading lies, for any foreign movie, simply ban it. Can't allow any loss of face to detract from the masterfull rescue mounted and expertly executed by the highest level of Thai officials. 

Edited September 27, 2018 by Artisi

[Ossy]

17 minutes ago, outsider said:

Not a single whimper of gratitude from the four gits. At least I haven't read about it from any of the news-feed here. I wonder if they are just plainly ungrateful, or have been asked to shut up to save Thai face. Perhaps both. 

Gratitude is an ethical trait, outsider, so you wonder correctly. It's a feeling that's too complicated for the average Thai - especially Thai male, I'd add - to take on board.

[BwindiBoy]

Well done to them for rescuing the divers too.  No shame in getting lost / cut off in there, so the ridicule should just be reserved for whoever was in charge on the Thai side (for not realising his men were missing).

[Chicken George]

well all credit to the four Thais who tried to resue the boys before it all went to the massive effort.. They are heros too.. As for the Brit divers they are in my books god like in the selfless efforts.. And I dont believe in gods.. 

[Artisi]

1 minute ago, Chicken George said:

well all credit to the four Thais who tried to resue the boys before it all went to the massive effort.. They are heros too.. As for the Brit divers they are in my books god like in the selfless efforts.. And I dont believe in gods.. 

Right, no fault what so ever for the 4 guys, wonder if the official are aware as yet of this fact. They were probably silenced by some minor official to remain quite - can't have this sort of thing ruining our fantastic rescue effort. 

[Chicken George]

11 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Right, no fault what so ever for the 4 guys, wonder if the official are aware as yet of this fact. They were probably silenced by some minor official to remain quite - can't have this sort of thing ruining our fantastic rescue effort. 

In the UK rescue "clubs" sea ,air, mountain etc are run mostly by civilians and funded by themselves or by donation.. So this meeting that just happened in Somerset would talk about what went wrong or what could be done to improve future rescues.. This i feel wont happen in Thailand.. Yes they will talk about not going in before they/we are ready but it hapoens.. 

[wvavin]

Ok, ok, enough of this. I try my best to believe. 

[Lamkyong]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

I can picture it now: these four will be the obligatory fat guy, the overly camp one, the nerd complete with thick glasses and the funny little man Kortee, all accompanied by whistles, hooters and boings. Such laughs!

that's presuming they were all male  even so if female  same same   + or -  a few quirky bits

[Artisi]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/hapless-helpers-recount-own-rescue-by-divers-from-thai-cave/ar-AAAHnoy?ocid=spartanntp

[hotchilli]

Just shows what true men they really were !

I'm sure the football team were grateful for the rescue but I wonder why the four men have stayed so quiet ??

[Artisi]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Just shows what true men they really were !

I'm sure the football team were grateful for the rescue but I wonder why the four men have stayed so quiet ??

Maybe a few words from the top.. 

[fvw53]

I have seen on this subject two documentaries made in the USA :  they only mention US rescue efforts ...no mention of British or Australians..

[sanemax]

6 hours ago, outsider said:

Not a single whimper of gratitude from the four gits. At least I haven't read about it from any of the news-feed here. I wonder if they are just plainly ungrateful, or have been asked to shut up to save Thai face. Perhaps both. 

 

    They four guys may have shown their gratitude personally , face to face .

Or do you think that unless you have read about something, then , it didnt happen ?

[Spidey]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I'm sure the football team were grateful for the rescue but I wonder why the four men have stayed so quiet ??

 

I think, given the facts, it was unknown until Rick Stanton revealed them to a private audience, months later and then the Thais suddenly tell the story afterwards, that the Thai authorities had told them not to speak about it due to the ridiculous Thai "face" phenomenon.

 

Don't blame the 4 guys that were rescued for this, blame the pompous, idiotic Thais that were overseeing the operation for telling them to shut up.

[sanemax]

5 minutes ago, Spidey said:

 

 Thais suddenly tell the story afterwards, that the Thai authorities had told them not to speak about it due to the ridiculous Thai "face" phenomenon.

Don't blame the 4 guys that were rescued for this, blame the pompous, idiotic Thais that were overseeing the operation for telling them to shut up.

 

    Has that been confirmed or is that just something that Thaivisa posters made up ?

"Its about saving face" , 

 

[Spidey]

Just now, sanemax said:

 

    Has that been confirmed or is that just something that Thaivisa posters made up ?

"Its about saving face" , 

 

As I said the facts speak for themselves.

[sanemax]

Just now, Spidey said:

As I said the facts speak for themselves.

 

   OK, so its a "fact" that the four rescued Thais were told to keep quiet about being rescued to "save face" ?

   Who was it that told the rescued guys to keep quiet ?

[maxcorrigan]

I can't quite understand how the Thai seals got some way into diving in the cave before saying they had done all they could and needed help, surely they must have gone past the dry spot where these four were stuck without any diving equipment, who had got there before the water rose cutting them off, would be interesting to know if someone has more knowledge of this!

[Spidey]

Just now, maxcorrigan said:

I can't quite understand how the Thai seals got some way into diving in the cave before saying they had done all they could and needed help, surely they must have gone past the dry spot where these four were stuck without any diving equipment, who had got there before the water rose cutting them off, would be interesting to know if someone has more knowledge of this!

Obviously they didn't get very far at all. Don't forget that the Thai Seals had zero experience of cave diving, an extremely specialised skill.