Destiny1990 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 There is more money in traffic bills then with immigration fines so they make it water tight soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Oh dear. Well, if you needed to know how integrated the Thai systems are here you have it. Perhaps instead of issuing tickets and paying the police the payment should go to a department managed by the vehicle registration then no IT integration is urgently required. Oh wait, then there's no tea money! The smart move would have been for them to make a public announcement that everyone who has not paid their traffic tickets should do so now and give them some kind of amnesty against further action if they are very late, then issue a statement that says if you don't we are coming for you. This sounds like a perfect job for Big Joke. No wonder they clobber the foreigners, they know the foreigners pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luk AJ Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Crossing white line with one wheel bam! fine! I pay all fines, after so many years living in Thailand, it seems I reached the VIP membership and all my fines are capped at 500thb :)Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Crush the cars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Maybe they just can’t read ! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Dam. 83% not paid. Thats insanity. We got a fine in the post one day saying we had travelled through a red light on a honda forza in bkk. Its an intersection in a place we had never been. We said send us the photo. It never came. Only one week prior we had a very public argument with the police for continually pulling us over and demanding fines for things that never happened. Always at rush hour when we need to pick up children from school so on some occasions we would just pay. Pricks would jump in frontnof the bike and grab brakes and keys and surround me like im a hardened criminal. Stupid aholes were asking for work permits saying there going to get immigration involved. I hadnt done anything wrong at all. I have to think this ticket had something to do with this abuse. My question is how many of the 83% were legite or police greedy childish corruption because it does happen has happened to us. Never paid a cent. Never will until there is undeniable proof. Edited October 20, 2018 by unamazedloso spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 19 hours ago, markytarky said: So, then you will have 11 million vehicles with invalid registrations. What then? That's ok, at least the systems will be linked - should allow for many photo op's announcing the great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2here Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 To me, if the state really wanted to get heavy-handed then they could do something like a court-ordered garnishment or seizure. Those that didn’t pay would be presented to the court. The court can then approve (or not) an order of garnishment. The government would then present that court garnishment and seize funds in any of the major banks whose records showed accounts under that persons national ID. Given that a Thai must present their national ID card to the bank at time of opening an account and the number doesn’t change, I’d reasonably think that finding assets held in a Thai bank by a Thai national would be fairly easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 20 hours ago, taninthai said: Good on the Thais I say ,people in my country roll over to easy and simply pay everything ,tv license,dog license even have to pay to park when visiting sick or dying relatives in hospital........ power to the people I say. yes, I was glad to see the back of those embassy letters.....not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealthychef Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 21 hours ago, webfact said: police are hastening efforts to link their online database with the Land Transport Department’s vehicle registration system. Great idea! Hey, you know you don't need a computer to do this. We've been doing it in America using only paper for decades. ???? But yeah, with computers you can run a plate and find the outstanding tickets, issue a warrant for nonpayment, etc. I think this is a positive move, although I'm generally not in favor of authoritarian measures. This is helpful to public safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest879 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 they need to collect cash at the point of infringement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 And those 11 million are probably just like 1% of the "traffic ignorings" they do which were actually ticketed in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisswe Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Not only traffic, Thai peoples totally ignore Law's and regulation's in and on all levels, poor as well as rich, one example is the short term condo renting !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltire1 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 21 hours ago, markytarky said: So, then you will have 11 million vehicles with invalid registrations. What then? f they know the address to mail the ticket, surely police can have easy follow up. Unless the address is wrong or the name is wrong or........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSiN Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 21 hours ago, taninthai said: Good on the Thais I say ,people in my country roll over to easy and simply pay everything ,tv license,dog license even have to pay to park when visiting sick or dying relatives in hospital........ power to the people I say. Yup. I'm all for it. I'd like to see the peeps of Australia do the same. Wld really fk their illegal corporation theft funds. Driver education is the key. Not fines or punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 21 hours ago, stanleycoin said: The usual, know one will care. Situation normal. PC Plonker will still sit on his arse all day long. Carry on Thailand. Police frequently carry out roadblock checks near my place - you know, the ones that the PM told them to end - and they seem to be looking mostly for those without the registration in the window. What happens to those without, I know not. Maybe they issue a fine that won't be paid ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 It is not so difficult. There are countries where they then seize all your assets, and also seize your wages. Believe me, then you would only like to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieqw Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 18 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Easily solved with Balls as all the registration numbers are in the system. Just run a TV advertising Campaign for one month advising all drivers that if their fines are not paid in 14 days their vehicles will be impounded and crushed. If you punish offenders hard enough it will end the problem. All this nonsense about being 'Tolerant Society' is just an excuse for disgusting behaviour by all and sundry. just tell them they have won some money come to ??? hotel arrest them, done a few times with criminals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, luk AJ said: Crossing white line with one wheel bam! fine! I pay all fines, after so many years living in Thailand, it seems I reached the VIP membership and all my fines are capped at 500thb ???? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Now this is so stupid. No other country is so strict like this. The dumb thing is, this is not dangerous. But the millions of motorcyclists -including Police - riding on sidewalks and dangerous to pedestrians, no problem. I wouldn't pay a fine like that either. Edited October 20, 2018 by Time Traveller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 21 hours ago, taninthai said: Good on the Thais I say ,people in my country roll over to easy and simply pay everything ,tv license,dog license even have to pay to park when visiting sick or dying relatives in hospital........ power to the people I say. Well in that case, I urge you to hasten back to your country where you can exercise your superior Intelligence to influence a change in the system and completely stuff the place up, leaving Thailand to at least, TRY to resolve this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnoodeeka Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 17 hours ago, canuckamuck said: Just got my second ticket for less than 5kmh over the speed limit of 90. It is very hard to maintain that speed over long distances on good roads. My 5th gear is superfluous. don't pay it, I got one in khon kaen , wife said throw in bin, so I did, never heard anymore about it, that was 3 year ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileydude Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Thing is, these tickets they are talking about are often issued for minor offenses like crossing a solid line while lane changing, parking violations etc while more serious violations like driving multiple shifts (minivan drivers falling asleep at the wheel), driving under the influence of alcohol or amphetamines (truckers and minivans) are not being seriously addressed. The RTP is whining because they want the money, not because they want to solve the pressing issue of why Thailand is top ranked in traffic related deaths. Their priorities are never right because the whole RTP system is based on cronyism, power trips and incentives, not to serve the public. Edited October 20, 2018 by smileydude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibley69 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 22 hours ago, taninthai said: Good on the Thais I say ,people in my country roll over to easy and simply pay everything ,tv license,dog license even have to pay to park when visiting sick or dying relatives in hospital........ power to the people I say. Until one of these drivers with no insurance crashes into You?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the guest Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Introduce the British system that scans every vehicle on the road automatically. Anyone with an outstanding warrant or using vehicle with unpaid traffic tickets is soon stopped by the Police, vehicle impounded. If the fine is not paid, the vehicle is either auctioned or trashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 23 hours ago, markytarky said: So, then you will have 11 million vehicles with invalid registrations. What then? They will be in really really big trouble! And receive another ticket.. and if they dont pay that one they will be in really really really big trouble... This is what happens when there is no consequences for anything and the best part is that it's extremely predictable for anyone with a basic low level Western education... Makes the People in power here seem completely incompetent... Incompetent is not even a strong enough word.. it's more like they are mentally handicapped .. but that's disrespectful to people with actually handicaps... I don't know man... Not easy to have hope for road safety in Thailand... They have somewhere between 22k and 30k deaths in the roads every year and 1 million injured every year.. and they can't even figure out how to fine ppl correctly.. And this is not news btw.. this has been known for years that nobody is paying.. what has the so called it team been doing? Sniffing glue??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, berrec said: Re: “ raiboon said he had instructed the IT team of the Royal Thai Police to work out with the Land Transport Department to link the PTM and vehicle registration” Thailand 4.0, 5555, another knee jerk reactive feel good PR stunt, by the time, if ever, they get this database Intergration working effectively the offenders will be long gone from this world. Knee jerk reaction implies some sort of speed... This problem has been known for years... If your knee takes years to react I wouldn't call it a knee jerk reaction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: Police frequently carry out roadblock checks near my place - you know, the ones that the PM told them to end - and they seem to be looking mostly for those without the registration in the window. What happens to those without, I know not. Maybe they issue a fine that won't be paid ???? No registration = no insurance.. what happens when they have accident and no insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, smileydude said: Thing is, these tickets they are talking about are often issued for minor offenses like crossing a solid line while lane changing, parking violations etc while more serious violations like driving multiple shifts (minivan drivers falling asleep at the wheel), driving under the influence of alcohol or amphetamines (truckers and minivans) are not being seriously addressed. The RTP is whining because they want the money, not because they want to solve the pressing issue of why Thailand is top ranked in traffic related deaths. Their priorities are never right because the whole RTP system is based on cronyism, power trips and incentives, not to serve the public. Yeah.. it's baffling that 22k-30k dead Thai and 1 million injured Thai is not enough as motivation to fix this.... They must be mentally handicapped or so corrupt and rotten to the core that it's disgusting... They have blood on their hands... Hell, they have blood up to their knees! They are bathing in it. Edited October 20, 2018 by hobz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Schrepfer Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I would agree to pay all tickets if sent by ordinary postal mail but cannot do so if sent by registered mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakser Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 11:23 AM, markytarky said: So, then you will have 11 million vehicles with invalid registrations. What then? No problem. They will get ticket for these offences too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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