webfact Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Simple tips to combat sexual predators By Kornrawee Panyasuppakun The Nation A PEN OR a mobile phone can be good enough everyday items for self-defence in cities where one in two women experience sexual harassment in public transport. According to a self-defence master, a metal pen can go a long way in protecting women against a strong man. Poking the pen deep into their muscles, the knuckles, or bones can inflict unimaginable pain on the perpetrator, said Kittichet Mayakarn, an experienced self-defence instructor at JDT Combative, during a self-defence lab held by Safe Cities for Women Network at Crossover Gym yesterday. “Choose a sturdy pen, one that doesn’t break easily and, if possible, aim for the chest or the collar bone,” he advised. “But avoid poking the pen in the eyes, unless absolutely necessary because it is a criminal offence,” he cautioned. Regarding the use of a mobile phone as a defence weapon, Kittichet recommends using the hard case to smash the side of the head or to smash the hand that grabs you. “The goal of such an attack is to create an opportunity for a safe escape, as men are physically stronger. Slap his ear to disorient him. Make sure that you also give a knee thrust into the crotch, and the face, and stomp on the ankle of the attacker,” he said. But most importantly, Kittichet said, try to avoid having to employ the weapons in the first place. “When harassed, looking directly into the eyes and not acting like a victim gives the man a clear warning: ‘Mister, you are touching me’. If you find a woman being harassed, ask her loudly, ‘Are you alright?’” “A verbal warning will turn the eyes of other passengers to you and the harassed woman and would immediately stop the perpetrator,” he said. The self-defence lesson was given to about a hundred #teamphueak (nosy team) members, mostly young women, who aim to be “nosy” and lend a helping hand to women molested in public transport. The team and the self-defence workshop were arranged by Safe Cities for Women network to equip the volunteers with claws and fangs to curb sexual harassment. All around Thailand, there are about 500 #teamphueak members. The Safe Cities for Women Network comprises ActionAid Thailand, Thai Health Promotion Foundation, Sexuality Studies Association and Four Regions Slum Network. In Bangkok 45 per cent of female passengers reported being sexually harassed, according to a 2017 survey by Safe Cities for Women. Of these 15.4 per cent reported being touched or groped. The harassment occurs most in public buses (50 per cent), followed by motorcycle taxis (11.4 per cent), taxis (10.9 per cent), vans (9.8 per cent), and BTS Skytrain (9.6 per cent). Buses, cars, vans and trains have a confined nature, which is conducive to harassment. But motorcycle taxis are no less safer, as the figure above shows. Many reported that bike taxi drivers deliberately applied the brakes suddenly so that the woman’s breast would bump into the driver’s back. There were some reports that the drivers used a hand to touch their thigh, explained Varaporn Chamsanit, manager of Women’s Wellbeing and Gender Justice Programme, Sexuality Studies Association. To fight the predators, the network aims to raise more awareness and recruit more #teamphueak members, said Rungtip Imrungruang, programme and policy manager at ActionAid Thailand. “We must create a society where people are the watchdogs and are ready to provide support to people in need,” she said. In the next step, Safe Cities for Women will aim to educate schoolgirls, who often become victims of sexual harassment, she revealed. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30356896 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-10-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 If I was a female, a good kicking in the <deleted> would be my first choice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 All women should learn the art of self defence: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Given what some men do to random, strange women, it is a wonder that they don't all murder us in our sleep. This type of class gets my full support, mainly because (sadly) many women will have to use its teachings. I wish it weren't so, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Where is the motorbike taxi defense squad now? If a grab driver did this they would get bad ratings. Another win for grab ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 If it's in an area surrounded by other people the best defense is to be as loud as possible. Hurting or trying to hurt the attacker could lead to unpredictable (attacker gets adrenaline spike) outcome and just one unlucky blow can cause serious bodily harm to a fragile woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katia Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 And then there are all of the "I can't believe you attacked him, he was just being friendly/bumped into you/did it by accident/you imagined it and you went off on him and overreacted!" reactions. Quote "But avoid poking the pen in the eyes, unless absolutely necessary because it is a criminal offence,” Would be SO at the bottom of my list of worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: bike taxi drivers deliberately applied the brakes suddenly so that the woman’s breast would bump into the driver’s back. And this is perceived as harassment? And how does one know if the braking was not necessary? Most braking is deliberate (as opposed to accidental.)! The #metoo movement is overly sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Prairieboy said: And this is perceived as harassment? And how does one know if the braking was not necessary? Most braking is deliberate (as opposed to accidental.)! The #metoo movement is overly sensitive. If you know how to drive you have a pretty good clue about when to use the brakes or not and how hard / sudden. Sudden hard braking usually has a really obvious reason. So when it happens for no reason..... Ofcourse it's easy to miss a pothole or something... So yeah I agree.. we can't just take the "victims" word for it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Having a police force would help. Having a police force with women in it would help even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I wonder the experienced self-defence instructor didn't mention the simplest and traditional way to combat sexual predators: stay in your room and lock the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 My bloody wife is a sexual predator. She just won't take no for an answer. She is always molesting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradewind777 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Storm in a D Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I have taught selfdefence for both women and men for quite a few years. Some people never get to the point where they actually want to hurt another person even in selfdefence.Some get over it and some don't.When you get harassed you never know where it is going to end and that is where part of the the problem lies. Usually it stops and the victim can walk away from it.If someone puts a hand on your shoulder should you go all out and break his wrist?Some say when you are attacked your job is just to survive,others say kill!! I say there are many other ways to protect yourself. Near where i live the have a female motorbike driver,she is always busy bacause girls seek her out.What about female taxi drivers and buses and train compartments only for women? The government can do many things if they want. What about a safe area you can run too that has many cameras? Your house key is a great weapon so is deoderant spray. I saw the video posted above,great job.Also saw the video that came after it,some girl walking around and getting harrassed by many people!!!Wait a minute ,people say'hello beautiful hoe are you today?'is that harasment?You can over do it also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 This thread certainly brought out all the white knights. Most Thai ladies avoid being alone with a man. Which prevents all misbehaviour before it even starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngBKK Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 What about defence against thai female gold diggers and love scammers... Cut all credit/atm cards and only now use cardless atm machines ? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, BritManToo said: This thread certainly brought out all the white knights. Most Thai ladies avoid being alone with a man. Which prevents all misbehaviour before it even starts. Not really ,according to the op 50% of abuse happens in public transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 5 hours ago, car720 said: My bloody wife is a sexual predator. She just won't take no for an answer. She is always molesting me. It works the other way around too. Here are the first verse lyrics of a song I sing during my performances. For some reason I think you'll like it: I got lucky on my birthday My wife reluctantly let me have my way She said "This is for you, do what you must do" Let me know when you’re through I thought things would change when we tied the knot But the life I dreamed of ain’t what I got When she say’s no, she means no Hell No! I couldn’t get laid when I was single if you threw me in a women’s prison I am the poster child for total rejection Celibacy is the cross that I must carry I couldn’t get laid when I was single So I guess I’ll just stay married... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Who is that hottie on the 2nd picture with her white t-shirt ? Could she show the public a self defence move, in beach attire, as could be useful ! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Prairieboy said: And this is perceived as harassment? And how does one know if the braking was not necessary? Most braking is deliberate (as opposed to accidental.)! The #metoo movement is overly sensitive. Yep. Seems to be stretching the point of pc sensitivities to where most everything can be perceived as harassment. Falsely fabricated, such as it's origins. In the highly f*cked up West and their overt institutional mindsets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 FInd the balls and kick, punch it, no more problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: If I was a female, a good kicking in the <deleted> would be my first choice ! I am a male, and a good kicking in the b..lox would be MY first choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katia Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 20 hours ago, Lupatria said: I wonder the experienced self-defence instructor didn't mention the simplest and traditional way to combat sexual predators: stay in your room and lock the door. Yeah, but good luck getting all of the sexual predators to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadperfect Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Oh this is going to go really well. Teaching how to pick a sturdy pen to stab youre so called horny passenger on the bus in the jugluar. Go thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 and is the penalty higher or lower if the passenger is a ladyboy? What about implants, do they count as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701d Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 “Baldrick, believe me, eternity in the company of Beelzebub and all his hellish instruments of death will be a picnic compared to five minutes with me... and this pencil” - Blackadder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 It's an important topic but the problem is that you'll only really be effective if you practice these moves religiously during classes with a physically strong opponent over many months and even years. There is a huge difference between knowing what to do and doing it in real life ... some women freeze with fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 1:01 PM, wgdanson said: I am a male, and a good kicking in the b..lox would be MY first choice Some farangs would pay good money for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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