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Used to get quite bad hayfever as a child, which all but disappeared in my 20's.

 

Very occasionally over the years, I would get itchy, sore eyes, & always used Otrivine Antistin Eye Drops. Worked every time.

 

However, this year, after having been here for 5 years, my 'hayfever' with itchy, sore eyes has come back in the last two weeks.

 

Been to many Pharmacies here in Udon, & cannot but the Otrivine Eyes at all - Mai mee. ????

 

Been given various eye drops, 'Hista Oph' is one: None them worked.

 

What I need is some Eye drops containing:

 

Xylometazoline Hydrochloride.

 

Thanks for your help.

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There is no other brand, apart from Otrivin, containing Xylometazoline hydrochloride available in Thailand according to MIMS.  And MIMS doesn't list a distributor for Otrivin.

 

What I find effective is eyedrops containing sodium cromoglycate which are readily available here.

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Is there a pollen problem in Thailand?  The air is usually motionless here to the point of being stagnant.  I don't think most plants here rely on wind to disperse their pollen.

 

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The problem I sometimes have is the dust.  Since there's very little breeze, dust accumulates everywhere and any disturbance can raise huge dust clouds.  There is a recycling plant behind my house and the entire back of the house is covered in a thick layer of dust.  Whenever I go rummaging through the junk pile looking for spare parts or bits of wood for a project, I usually come back to the house sneezing and with itching eyes.

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Have you tried Ketotifen?

It is an OTC antihistamine made locally by GPO.

Decongestants can cause rebound where overuse actually makes the problem worse.

Xylometazoline Hydrochloride is a decongestant.

Sodium Cromoglicate and Ketotifen are both mast cell stabilisers with Ketotifen being next generation and more effective.

 

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41 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Have you tried Ketotifen?

It is an OTC antihistamine made locally by GPO.

Decongestants can cause rebound where overuse actually makes the problem worse.

Xylometazoline Hydrochloride is a decongestant.

Sodium Cromoglicate and Ketotifen are both mast cell stabilisers with Ketotifen being next generation and more effective.

 

Oops It is an OTC antihistamine made locally by GPO.

It is an OTC ophthalmic antihistamine with a brand name of Zaditen made by Novartis available from distributor Zuellig Bangkok.

 

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18 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Have you tried Ketotifen?

It is an OTC antihistamine made locally by GPO.

 

Sodium Cromoglicate and Ketotifen are both mast cell stabilisers with Ketotifen being next generation and more effective.

 

 

The OP has indicated that antihistamines don't work for him so Ketotifen is a poor recommendation.

 

Chromoglycate is not an antihistamine, so suggesting "Ketotifen being next generation" with respect to chromoglycate is spurious.

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2 hours ago, Oxx said:

 

The OP has indicated that antihistamines don't work for him so Ketotifen is a poor recommendation.



 

Chromoglycate is not an antihistamine, so suggesting "Ketotifen being next generation" with respect to chromoglycate is spurious. 

Where did the OP indicate that antihistamines don't work for him?

 

The OP stated that Hist Opth didn't work for him.

 

Hist Opth is 50/50 decongestant/antihistamine.

 

Why does this make ketotifen a poor recommendation?

 

I didn't say that sodium cromoglycate is an antihistamine I said it was a mast cell inhibitor.

 

Why is Ketotifen being next generation with respect to cromoglycate spurious?

 

Sodium cromoglycate was first used in the early 1970's whereas ketotifen in the late 1998's.

 

Ketotifen's efficacy was compared with cromoglycate in the following study :

 

Single dose of ketotifen fumarate .025% vs 2 weeks of cromolyn sodium 4% for allergic conjunctivitis.

 

"Patients reported greater comfort in the ketotifen-treated than in the cromolyn-treated eye (P = .066). 

 

The most common adverse event was burning/stinging with cromolyn.

 

A single dose of ketotifen was superior to a 2-week four-times-daily regimen of cromolyn in alleviating symptoms of allergic conjunctivitis in the conjunctival allergen-challenge model."

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12431044

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31 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Where did the OP indicate that antihistamines don't work for him?

 

The OP stated that Hist Opth didn't work for him.

 

Hist Opth is 50/50 decongestant/antihistamine.

 

Why does this make ketotifen a poor recommendation?

 

I didn't say that sodium cromoglycate is an antihistamine I said it was a mast cell inhibitor.

 

Why is Ketotifen being next generation with respect to cromoglycate spurious?

 

Sodium cromoglycate was first used in the early 1970's whereas ketotifen in the late 1998's.

 

Ketotifen's efficacy was compared with cromoglycate in the following study :

 

Single dose of ketotifen fumarate .025% vs 2 weeks of cromolyn sodium 4% for allergic conjunctivitis.

 

"Patients reported greater comfort in the ketotifen-treated than in the cromolyn-treated eye (P = .066). 

 

The most common adverse event was burning/stinging with cromolyn.

 

A single dose of ketotifen was superior to a 2-week four-times-daily regimen of cromolyn in alleviating symptoms of allergic conjunctivitis in the conjunctival allergen-challenge model."

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12431044

 

You are so ridiculously clueless that I'm not going to give a reasoned reply.

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48 minutes ago, Oxx said:

 

You are so ridiculously clueless that I'm not going to give a reasoned reply.

Be that as it may, or may not, perhaps you could explain to me how it's 'clueless'?

 

Thanks

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Please keep it civil.

 

Ketotifen  is indeed an antistamine, of the H-1 antagonist variety.

 

That said, it does sometimes work where older antihistamines do not.  The opthalmic preparation is called Zaditen, no script needed but it will be costly.

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