Extreme Brexit could be worse than financial crisis for UK: BoE

[Grouse]

16 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Just as well that Brexiteers don't go snivelling to the Mods when a balloon comes out with a snide comment..eh mr phuket???!!!

 

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What? Explain yourself in plain English.

[malagateddy]

Your snide comment re vegetables in the UK voting for Brexit..and you know fine well what I meant..after all your Uni Education and all the rest of it

What? Explain yourself in plain English.

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[Grouse]

1 minute ago, malagateddy said:

Your snide comment re vegetables in the UK voting for Brexit..and you know fine well what I meant..after all your Uni Education and all the rest of it

 

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OK, I apologise for insulting vegetables!

[malagateddy]

Typical comments from a remoaner.
Must be a lot of GRASS in yorkshire[emoji6]

OK, I apologise for insulting vegetables!

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[nauseus]

36 minutes ago, Grouse said:

I wasn't able to access Vogie's piece on Soubry.

 

Heath was far worse than Blair

 

I am merely stating that to claim that there is amoral obligation to "respect" the referendum is wearing rather thin.

From the day of the result, only a few remainers have respected the referendum vote, or the people who voted out. What wears thin on the other side, is patience.    

[aright]

5 hours ago, sandyf said:

In the early 80s I stayed at a gite in Normandy. It was market weekend and on the Sunday morning I heard a commotion from a long shed and wandered over to have a look. There was a long overhead conveyor track and at one end an old woman was hanging on ducks, they had strangled themselves by the time they got to the other end where another old woman took them off and threw them into large baskets. I am fairly certain the ducks prefer to go to the market under EU regulation.

Animal cruelty, as any other cruelty, is a mentality issue and nothing whatsoever to do with "the people", supermarkets or cheaper food.

Animal cruelty, as any other cruelty, is a mentality issue and nothing whatsoever to do with "the people", supermarkets or cheaper food.

 

"The fact is we are paying the cost of bad and cheap food in other ways. We are destroying ecosystems, becoming ill, abusing animals. If we are to get our ethics and value systems back where they belong then we have to stop expecting food to be cheap."

 

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2017/08/29/Cheap-food-has-expensive-consequences-but-how-can-we-make-better-food

[welovesundaysatspace]

38 minutes ago, nauseus said:

From the day of the result, only a few remainers have respected the referendum vote, or the people who voted out. What wears thin on the other side, is patience.    

How do you “respect” a referendum vote? 

How do you “respect” a manipulated referendum vote?

Are the people in North-Korea also expected to “respect” the election results there?

Did you “respect” the 1975 referendum or did you call for another one?

 

 

 

Edited March 4, 2019 by welovesundaysatspace

[bomber]

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

Tofu?

 

All the vegetables in the UK voted for Brexit ????

dont forget the turkeys

[talahtnut]

4 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I somehow fail to see the progress. Looks more like you’ve moved backwards with all the information popping up now that people should have had when they were asked to vote.

Indeed, the UK does not do 'progress' it lives in the past, and

for that reason we will remain in the EU, until it collapses.

Watch May's deceptive deal taking us back into the EU.

This deficiency in democracy and the leadership that fears 

change, coupled with monstrous inequality, will lead to

civil unrest, here. Expect UK French style protests.

The battle is not over, just beginning.

 

 

[talahtnut]

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

All the vegetables in the UK voted for Brexit

Most of us voted for the weeds in parliament.

[tebee]

 

[nauseus]

32 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

How do you “respect” a referendum vote? 

How do you “respect” a manipulated referendum vote?

Are the people in North-Korea also expected to “respect” the election results there?

Did you “respect” the 1975 referendum or did you call for another one?

 

 

 

1. By acknowledging it and not constantly trying by any all means to turn it over.

2. By recognising that there was "manipulation" from both sides. 

3. UK is not NK, yet, at least. No idea. No comparison.

4. I did respect the 1975 referendum at the time and for many years but I changed my mind after Heath admitted his deceit and the questions of legality came up too. No, I did not call for another one.

Edited March 4, 2019 by nauseus

[Grouse]

6 hours ago, vogie said:

Re-sent?

Yes. Rather damning.

 

I do not see how she can get out of that!

[tebee]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

1. By acknowledging it and not constantly trying by any all means to turn it over.

2. By recognising that there was "manipulation" from both sides. 

3. NK is not the UK, yet, at least. No idea.

4. I did respect the 1975 referendum at the time and for many years but I changed my mind after Heath admitted his deceit and the questions of legality came up too. No, I did not call for another one.

I'll acknowledge it, but I won't respect it 

[nauseus]

29 minutes ago, bomber said:

dont forget the turkeys

Sounds like a majority to me then.

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, malagateddy said:

Typical comments from a remoaner.
Must be a lot of GRASS in yorkshire

 

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For goodness sake man, speak English? What is GRASS in capitals supposed to signify?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grasse?

Edited March 4, 2019 by Grouse

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, tebee said:

I'll acknowledge it, but I won't respect it 

I think that acknowledgement is a form of respect, TB.

 

We know you don't like the result. That's OK.

 

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, Grouse said:

For goodness sake man, speak English? What is GRASS in capitals supposed to signify?

Grouse Requires A Shot of Shoulder?

[tebee]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I think that acknowledgement is a form of respect, TB.

 

We know you don't like the result. That's OK.

 

 

I don't respect it because it was poorly designed  and badly executed. It was all things to all men.

[roo860]

Cold shoulder?

Grouse Requires A Shot of Shoulder?

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[Loiner]

How do you “respect” a referendum vote? 
How do you “respect” a manipulated referendum vote?
Are the people in North-Korea also expected to “respect” the election results there?
Did you “respect” the 1975 referendum or did you call for another one?
 
 
 

You respect it by delivering the majority result, not the minority’s.
We’ve already noted that when the politician say they ‘respect’ the referendum, they mean the opposite. They actually intend to disregard the referendum result, then lie and cheat their way to something else.
Nothing was manipulated in the ballot, unless you refer to citizens being excluded for over 15 years absence.
The 1975 referendum was respected because it was the ‘correct’ result for the government of the day.


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[billd766]

2 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Just as well that Brexiteers don't go snivelling to the Mods when a balloon comes out with a snide comment..eh mr phuket???!!!

 

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Good old highly educated ignorant Grouse. Never misses the chance to insult his "social inferiors".

 

And many of the Remainers say that the Brexiteers are always tossing insults.

[billd766]

32 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Most of us voted for the weeds in parliament.

I often wonder where Grouse came from.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Pot_Men

 

The Flower Pot Men was the story of Bill and Ben, two little men made of flower pots who lived at the bottom of an English suburban garden. The characters were devised by Hilda Brabban. She wrote three original stories of the three characters (Bill, Ben and Little Weed) which she sold to the BBC for one guinea each. The stories were originally broadcast on the radio programme Listen with Mother in 1951.[3]

[welovesundaysatspace]

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

1. By acknowledging it and not constantly trying by any all means to turn it over.

The referendum result is a fact; everyone acknowledges that. It cannot be “turned over”, because that would require traveling back in time. 

 

What you mean by using the word “respect” actually is to shut up, stop

thinking, and do nothing. That, however, is not “respect” but simply surrender. 

 

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

2. By recognising that there was "manipulation" from both sides. 

Even worse then. If not half of them

were cheating, but all of them, makes the whole vote even less legitimate and democratic. 

 

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

3. UK is not NK, yet, at least. No idea. No comparison.

By asking people to shut up and swallow a manipulated vote, you’re doing exactly the same people in countries like North Korea are facing their whole life. 

 

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

4. I did respect the 1975 referendum at the time and for many years but I changed my mind after Heath admitted his deceit and the questions of legality came up too. No, I did not call for another one.

Same as Brexiteers called for a referendum or to leave the EU, remainers are also calling for a referendum or to stay in the EU. That’s how democracy works; everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one needs to fear someone trying to silence him. 

[nontabury]

8 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I will not disagree that Blair and the UK are (together with the US and others) responsible for the war and chaos in the Middle East and all the deaths and refugees it has caused. But any comparison with Hitler or the Nazis is completely wrong. 

I did not compare Tony WMD Blair with the Nazis. What I said, is that he has inflicted more damage on the U.K. than Adolf Hitler.

His willingness to accept more immigrants from an alien culture into the U.K has resulted in all sorts of conflicts in our society. One of the reasons he took that approach, as admitted by some of his supporters. Was the knowledge that these alien immigrants are far more likely to vote Labour.

 In contrast, another member of the axis powers, Japan have taken a completely different approach,regarding immigration. And strangely, their country is safer and far more unified than the U.K.

[Grouse]

13 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Good old highly educated ignorant Grouse. Never misses the chance to insult his "social inferiors".

 

And many of the Remainers say that the Brexiteers are always tossing insults.

I guess Brexiters don't do humour. "The vegetables voted for Brexit" was a bon mot; a quip

 

BTW, you will note that I don't "do" ad hominem insults. I don't feel I need to do so

 

I do find vegetables to be socially inferior to me; especially sprouts!

 

Finally, you may accuse me of many things but "ignorant" just doesn't really fit, now does it? Are you misusing the word? A common error.

 

Ignorant

 

1) Lacking knowledge.

2) Slang: Insult used to describe another party as stupid and/or prejudiced. Often used incorrectly as the most ignorant parties in a debate tend to call others ignorant to make up for their own lack of information or prejudices.

 

If you wish to insult me, do me the courtesy of trying a little harder! 

 

Now, enough bickering. Matter closed.

Edited March 4, 2019 by Grouse

[aright]

31 minutes ago, tebee said:

I'll acknowledge it, but I won't respect it 

My word. You have adopted French values haven't you!

[nontabury]

2 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Typical comments from a remoaner.
Must be a lot of GRASS in yorkshire

 

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Sorry to disappoint you Malagateddy, but He’s not a real Yorkshireman. In fact he comes over as anti Yorkshire. The bad news for you,is that’s he considers himself Scottish, due to his fathers place of birth.

Edited March 4, 2019 by nontabury

[Grouse]

24 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I often wonder where Grouse came from.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Pot_Men

 

The Flower Pot Men was the story of Bill and Ben, two little men made of flower pots who lived at the bottom of an English suburban garden. The characters were devised by Hilda Brabban. She wrote three original stories of the three characters (Bill, Ben and Little Weed) which she sold to the BBC for one guinea each. The stories were originally broadcast on the radio programme Listen with Mother in 1951.[3]

Flobadob 

[Grouse]

12 minutes ago, nontabury said:

Sorry to disappoint you Malagateddy, but He’s not a real Yorkshireman. In fact he comes over as anti Yorkshire. The bad news for you,is that’s he considers himself Scottish, due to his fathers place of birth.

I was born in Middlesbrough when it was in Yorkshire. I am in no way anti-Yorkshire.