How to apply for own work permit?

[waxpro]

hey guys,

I heard about the recent updates and new regulations related to Thai work permits,

what I heard is that you can work any where in Thai instead of the old regulations that restrict the holder of this permit to work only in that specific place and province,

 

recently, one of my friends was telling me that you can apply for your own work permit,

I'm not sure how come this?unless someone has a company or running some kind of business.

if anything new please update and share your comments if any relevant experience in this regard,

thanks

[PoorSucker]

No,you can not.

Still need a company with 2 mBaht capital and four empoyees per foreigner.

 

Only change is that you can work at multiple places compaired to before only one location.

 

 

[elviajero]

You still need to be employed to get the work permit. Once you have one there does appear to be greater flexibility. But the fundamentals of getting one haven’t changed.

[PerkinsCuthbert]

In effect, not much change from the old regime for the majority of work permit holders; perhaps a little less chance of being had up for a minor infringement of the rules, but other than that, same as it ever was for most people.

[phantomfiddler]

The BIG problem I had when in possession of a work permit was that in the process of obtaining such, I had to sign a declaration stating that I was making 80,000 Bht per month. In reality I was often making next to zero after paying wages and other expenses, but I was having to pay tax on the 80,000 Bht ???? If there is any way you can operate without a work permit you should give it a try, but keep a low profile and fly close to the ground.

[Greyhat]

16 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Only change is that you can work at multiple places compaired to before only one location.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but I'm a little confused about this. I have a WP so if I wanted to work "anywhere" else (provided it's not in the restricted list of professions) I could do that? So I could technically work at 7-11?

 

Or does this mean multiple branches of the same company?

Edited December 16, 2018 by Greyhat

[stud858]

16 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

,you can not

I didn't think so too.

What a shame.  Some really smart people around that could set up companies useful to society and help people. Id set up a small school teaching trades such as glazier and air con mechanic. 

But good luck to whoever is following a career in Thailand anyway

[PoorSucker]

57 minutes ago, Greyhat said:

I don't mean to hijack the thread but I'm a little confused about this. I have a WP so if I wanted to work "anywhere" else (provided it's not in the restricted list of professions) I could do that? So I could technically work at 7-11?

 

Or does this mean multiple branches of the same company?

Same company.

 

BTW, working at 7-11 is restricted to Thais.

All 7-11 here on Samui would have Burmese staff as they speak better English.

[Greyhat]

18 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

Same company.

Ah right, cheers mate.

19 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

BTW, working at 7-11 is restricted to Thais.

All 7-11 here on Samui would have Burmese staff as they speak better English. 

Good point, well made.

[onera1961]

4 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

If there is any way you can operate without a work permit you should give it a try

With an Smart Visa, you can work without a work permit but it must be in one of the 10 approved S curve industry.

[overherebc]

12 hours ago, onera1961 said:

With an Smart Visa, you can work without a work permit but it must be in one of the 10 approved S curve industry.

With a Bachelors Degree and 10 years documented history of your expertise in the field, a minimum 600,000 baht for the first year and of course an area of expertise that is highly sought after and needed, and a company that will pay you 200,000 a month.

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

On 12/16/2018 at 5:39 PM, PoorSucker said:

BTW, working at 7-11 is restricted to Thais.

I'm interested to read this rule. Manual labour, making dolls, whatever archaic rules they still follow, I never read this one. Further, I think that if you have immediate Thai family, they don't really give a hoot. I read it bandied around on these forums that you need a degree to get a work permit in Thailand. I have no degree, but I have a work permit, go figure. It says on my work permit that I'm the "Head of Customer Services", but in reality I do all the marketing, do all the electricians work, clean the swimming pools, work the night shift when the useless night staff don't show up, I even work the kitchens when it's busy, any good hotel manager has his own set of knives. I also run my own DBD registered IT consultancy. Nobody really gives a $#!t.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2018 by NilSS

[PoorSucker]

9 hours ago, NilSS said:

I'm interested to read this rule.

 

It's number 6 on the list.

Front shop sales and auction sale work.

[ExpatDraco]

I'm interested to read this rule. Manual labour, making dolls, whatever archaic rules they still follow, I never read this one. Further, I think that if you have immediate Thai family, they don't really give a hoot. I read it bandied around on these forums that you need a degree to get a work permit in Thailand. I have no degree, but I have a work permit, go figure. It says on my work permit that I'm the "Head of Customer Services", but in reality I do all the marketing, do all the electricians work, clean the swimming pools, work the night shift when the useless night staff don't show up, I even work the kitchens when it's busy, any good hotel manager has his own set of knives. I also run my own DBD registered IT consultancy. Nobody really gives a $#!t.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

What means DBD registered?

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

In that case I'm breaking rule#6 on a daily basis. I'm also breaking several others every day, the only way to avoid breaking them is to just stay in my office 24/7. I'm not constructing any dolls though or rolling any tobacco, I'm good on those ones.

DBD is https://www.dbd.go.th/dbdweb_en/

Edited December 21, 2018 by NilSS

[jackdd]

18 hours ago, NilSS said:

I'm interested to read this rule. Manual labour, making dolls, whatever archaic rules they still follow, I never read this one. Further, I think that if you have immediate Thai family, they don't really give a hoot. I read it bandied around on these forums that you need a degree to get a work permit in Thailand. I have no degree, but I have a work permit, go figure. It says on my work permit that I'm the "Head of Customer Services", but in reality I do all the marketing, do all the electricians work, clean the swimming pools, work the night shift when the useless night staff don't show up, I even work the kitchens when it's busy, any good hotel manager has his own set of knives. I also run my own DBD registered IT consultancy. Nobody really gives a $#!t. 

Of course nobody gives a shit, this is Thailand, but if you step anybody on the foot suddenly somebody might give a shit and you might be arrested for working illegally.

http://www.mol.go.th/en/content/page/6347

6.  Shop/Outlet attendance;

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

Sure I know that, and I don't step on toes, occasionally a boiler room gets busted or a psuedo-school of English with their staff of non-teachers gets shut down, but I never saw or heard of anyone getting their work permit revoked for not following the dotted I's or crossed Ts, did you?

 

Occasionally I'll go and pick someone up from the airport. I call that customer service, some might view it as working as an illegal tour guide. Following the rules to the letter is all but impossible unless you close the door and draw the curtains. There is always someone holier than thou to wag their finger. Pfft, whatever.

Edited December 21, 2018 by NilSS