20 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

That is a fallacy. Many insurance policies in the US will pay for suicide if the policy has been in effect for at least 2 years.

 

Insurance policies in the US is not the same as "most".  Other countries have insurance policies, you know? It's not all about America.

Lorazepam is one of the benzodiazepine drugs. Not saying that it was his Lorazepam that did it. 

  But benzos can easily be very addictive and if used improperly can create the opposite of what you want it to do. Benzos can create extreme anxiety...extreme paranoia to the point that you are convinced that you’re totally insane, and create thoughts of killing and suicide. 

   It’s of the most dangerous drug classes that exist and led to suicides and murder through the addictive effects on the mind.

      Properly used they can helpful if used carefully and very temporarily for no more than a week or so. But they are not a cure for anything and in my opinion should be totally banned/outlawed. 

    Very sorry he killed himself. Thankfully he took no one else with him. 

  Rest In Peace. 

Edited January 4, 20197 yr by Catoni
Addition

6 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said:

Good Lord!

 

I certainly hope he had sufficient life insurance...

This is the first thing that pops out of your mouth after reading this suicide article. Wow man ???? wow. 

Insurance pays after being in effect for at least three years and no obvious intent to commit suicide.

Those who have not been there need to shut their crapper about depression so intense as to want someone to take their own lives.

6 hours ago, MadMuhammad said:

Obviously a few issues going on upstairs for this poor bloke.

 

It’s an extremely sad and gruesome way to go. I understand that this was in BKK but if anyone is struggling here in Pattaya and need to reach out to someone for a chat, face-to-face, get something off your chest or whatever feel free to message me, I’ll always be open to lending a hand to someone struggling. Especially if it saves a life.

 

Nothing is ever that bad, There’s always a solution to a problem. Even if it’ll be a long, hard road it’s much better than the alternative. 

Those who are struggling and looking for help you might give assistance.

But those who decided to end their life you and nobody can help because they decided that step without "consulting " anybody. 

6 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said:

Good Lord!

 

I certainly hope he had sufficient life insurance...

Body repatriation insuarance maybe

1 hour ago, meninblack said:

I was on the elevator and I saw something fly next to me and after a few second I heard strong noise when he felt in the floor. People was shocking and cry. The sad thing when he jump, he not scream, he just jump. I can’t forget that from my head. 

 

People only scream when it's an accident.  No need to scream if you are willingly jumping.

..it is also none of your business to disclose what possessions he had..RIP.

17 minutes ago, seancbk said:

 

People only scream when it's an accident.  No need to scream if you are willingly jumping.

..a natural automatic response to cry out regardless.

Edited January 4, 20197 yr by tandor

could have been pushed

sad story

1 hour ago, sahibji said:

life insurance does not cover suicides.

 

Not true, most will cover suicides after the first year has past, even my Thai Life insurance covers this.

39 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Lorazepam is one of the benzodiazepine drugs. Not saying that it was his Lorazepam that did it. 

  But benzos can easily be very addictive and if used improperly can create the opposite of what you want it to do. Benzos can create extreme anxiety...extreme paranoia to the point that you are convinced that you’re totally insane, and create thoughts of killing and suicide. 

   It’s of the most dangerous drug classes that exist and led to suicides and murder through the addictive effects on the mind.

      Properly used they can helpful if used carefully and very temporarily for no more than a week or so. But they are not a cure for anything and in my opinion should be totally banned/outlawed. 

    Very sorry he killed himself. Thankfully he took no one else with him. 

  Rest In Peace. 

 

 

what you say about benzos is largely true but when used properly, not abused, or addicted can be lifesaving.

 

used intravenously to stop life threatening seizures is a godsend

 

for severe muscle spasm

 

to aid dislocation/fracture reduction

1 hour ago, Oxx said:

 

Insurance policies in the US is not the same as "most".  Other countries have insurance policies, you know? It's not all about America.

Ok, a number of insurance companies even outside the US cover suicide if the policy has been in force for awhile. Read post #49. The poster says even his Thai life insurance covers suicide after a year.

32 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

 

what you say about benzos is largely true but when used properly, not abused, or addicted can be lifesaving.

 

used intravenously to stop life threatening seizures is a godsend

 

for severe muscle spasm

 

to aid dislocation/fracture reduction

Yes, I agree and made a statement to that effect in my post you read.

Quote: “Properly used they can helpful if used carefully and very temporarily for no more than a week or so.”

     But they remain..one of the most dangerous class of drugs in existence and in my opinion should be totally banned and outlawed except for the uses you mentioned, in a hospital/medical setting with controls. 

Edited January 4, 20197 yr by Catoni
Clarification

How do we know he jumped? People don’t watch other people in public spaces like that unless they are very attractive...people are too busy moving and trying to get through people... 

 

reactionary witnesses are just that...didn’t actually see him initially but in a reaction mode and therefore what they saw was motion not the beginning step...

2 hours ago, sahibji said:

life insurance does not cover suicides.

 

Most life insurance policies do cover suicide however insurance companies stipulate that on new policies, full cover (which covers suicide) is only available after after one or two years as they deem suicide after this period had not been contemplated at the start of the policy. 

A couple of troll posts have been removed

6 hours ago, Seano88 said:

As if the police are guna report money lol. Only reason his ring wasn't gone is that it's too easy to trace through spouse etc. 

or maybe the cops could not take it off as it was stuck !!!?

Jimmy the Mook ought to know that you cannot insure against killing yourself, nor the horror and distress caused to shoppers when making a mess of yourself in situation like this. Poor man!  He must have been mad. There is an indication that he may have been having some dealing with a Thai woman.

13 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

How do we know he jumped? People don’t watch other people in public spaces like that unless they are very attractive...people are too busy moving and trying to get through people... 
 
reactionary witnesses are just that...didn’t actually see him initially but in a reaction mode and therefore what they saw was motion not the beginning step...

T21 is totally packed out. Impossible not to see someone launch another person. It takes seroise effort
And then of course there are security camera EVERY where.

But we appreciate your attempt to make a conspiracy out of it. Surprised it took so long for the first <deleted> to say it

7 hours ago, MadMuhammad said:

Obviously a few issues going on upstairs for this poor bloke.

 

It’s an extremely sad and gruesome way to go. I understand that this was in BKK but if anyone is struggling here in Pattaya and need to reach out to someone for a chat, face-to-face, get something off your chest or whatever feel free to message me, I’ll always be open to lending a hand to someone struggling. Especially if it saves a life.

 

Nothing is ever that bad, There’s always a solution to a problem. Even if it’ll be a long, hard road it’s much better than the alternative. 

If im ever in that area i might hit you up. I just don't handle very good when separated from my girl. For example she or i have to go away for day or so. I never get to the point of killing myself but i do hit a very dark sad area that has tendencies to lead to it. So just to have someone to talk to could make a huge difference for me. 

I am thrilled he did not take anyone out, when he fell. He might have done it impulsively, and may have been off his meds. Certainly he needed help, regardless. Nothing is that bad, short of terminal illness, which is unlikely considering his age.

 

Certainly, jumping from a great height is a decent way to end it. But only if it is high enough to insure that you will not be maimed for life. And not in front of a crowd. Can you imaging how traumatized some of the people may be, after witnessed this? Especially the kids. Some may not be able to forget this for a long time. Very inconsiderate way to end things, though if you really think about it, suicide is about the most selfish act one could possibly commit. Nobody really gives great thought to the distress others feel, when one makes plans to take their own life. 

8 hours ago, ezzra said:

And NO money on him, nothing? 

Did you have to bring up the subject of money?

RIP Mr. Maistrello.

8 hours ago, MadMuhammad said:

Obviously a few issues going on upstairs for this poor bloke.

 

It’s an extremely sad and gruesome way to go. I understand that this was in BKK but if anyone is struggling here in Pattaya and need to reach out to someone for a chat, face-to-face, get something off your chest or whatever feel free to message me, I’ll always be open to lending a hand to someone struggling. Especially if it saves a life.

 

Nothing is ever that bad, There’s always a solution to a problem. Even if it’ll be a long, hard road it’s much better than the alternative. 

Thank you.

 

I didn't expect a nice post like that on ThaiVisa.

 

I wish you were there in 2014 when I was 21, in Thailand with, I guess, the same kind of difficulty than him. Dead broke.

 

I finished with having nothing more than 5 bahs coins. I didn't have even a 10 bahts... while In Pattaya. With all kind of mental disorders that even for 25 years, France specialists still can't put a word on what (TF) is going on up there...

lucky me I passed the difficulties on my own, as I have always done. This time with just a little bit of help from my Mother in France and a few months I was back on tracks!!! (but I left Pattaya for Chonburi city) ????

 

Someone shared the Samaritans of Thailand website.

But sometimes and or some people prefer writing.

Here is their email. I am not sure at what point they stop being able to help you.

But they are respectful, helpful, and they know and use manipulation techniques to lower the probability that you will actually kill yourself.

 

[email protected]

 

Talk to them about anything you need. It's free.

 

Thank you again.

I will not read any others posts than yours because I'm afraid to read all kind of bullshit. Sadly.

 

PS! Turns out I was just diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome which is a special form of Autism.

But who cares

????

I hope someone in need will read your message.

I'm even thinking about starting a group in several cities in Thailand dedicated to helping people who are already halfway to Terminal 21.

Even worse, now they don't have to go to Bangkok with that brand new one in Pattaya...

Just kidding. A little bit. Sorry. I shouldn't ^^ 

Edited January 4, 20197 yr by alexlm

"Thai Rath reported that he was clad in a t-shirt, track-suit pants and sneakers. 

 

He had small tattoos on both arms and a snake tattoo on his left shoulder.

 

He had a gold ring on the ring finger of his left hand. 

 

He was in possession of his passport, a key, an air-ticket, chewing gum, loose tobacco and roller, and a quantity of Lorazepam. "

 

I the only relevant words in the above extract are the last 4!

It's terrible that he did it in a public place as he could have killed someone walking below. Extremely selfish of the poor guy. 

8 hours ago, Seano88 said:

As if the police are guna report money lol. Only reason his ring wasn't gone is that it's too easy to trace through spouse etc. 

youre a sad person!

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Lorazepam is used to treat psychiatric disorders such as anxiety. It is also used to treat insomnia.

It's used for more than anxiety.

 

It is used to treat anxiety disorders, trouble sleeping, active seizures including status epilepticus, alcohol withdrawal, and chemotherapy induced nausea and vomiting

4 hours ago, meninblack said:

I was on the elevator and I saw something fly next to me and after a few second I heard strong noise when he felt in the floor. People was shocking and cry. The sad thing when he jump, he not scream, he just jump. I can’t forget that from my head. 

Really sad.....

I remember thinking as I was going up the escalator at Terminal 21 mall one time that someone could easily jump over the rail and fall to their death. It’s a LONG way down.