Anyone out there know if the MOE can ask for or check the validity of a university degree?

I have been asked to have a letter sent by my university to verify my degree.

To be honest my degree is a bit dodgy... What can I do?

I have already submitted my degree, what are the penalties if I am caught using a fake document to obtain a work permit?

I have only been in Thailand for a year and I would hate to have to leave... HELP!!!

Help in a deception?

Isn't that called "aiding and abetting" a criminal act?

We don't advise people to break the law, cheat, steal, etc. If you have a dodgy degree, we sympathize with those you may have to leave behind. You can't verify a fake.

The MOE, the MOL, and the Immigration Police can ask for whatever they wish to ask, and so can your school.

You're already on their radar screen I guess.

(I know many teachers, but you're the only one I know who has been asked for this kind of letter.)

The most self benefiting route for someone in that situation would be to leave the country ASAP or end up like those 2 farang teachers on the news who are now in JAIL because of "dodgy" degrees.

However, fleeing the country after breaking the law would be illegal.

The legal thing to do would be to turn in oneself in and confess the crime.

*(Sorry, I had to say that last statement so that I'm technically not suggesting the illegal "fleeing" of the country...)

Might get a slap on the wrist (deportation or fine?) instead of long jail time.

Other people in that situation would flee asap. (Again, my official statement is that I'm not suggesting that route...)

Edited February 24, 200719 yr by junkofdavid2

The Thai's frequently "flee the scene".

Why not a farang?

Anyone out there know if the MOE can ask for or check the validity of a university degree?

I have been asked to have a letter sent by my university to verify my degree.

To be honest my degree is a bit dodgy... What can I do?

I have already submitted my degree, what are the penalties if I am caught using a fake document to obtain a work permit?

I have only been in Thailand for a year and I would hate to have to leave... HELP!!!

Its going to depend on the consulate you apply at. Some will insist on a letter with a MOE stamp etc. Others are less demanding and will take a letter and contact info for things like Muay Thai schools etc.

If they want a MOE then either you have it or you don't. They might give you a Non IM O or triple tourist visa if you lay out what your doing but don't quite qualify for a ED visa.

If you get a triple entry TV visa then you can get 9 months out of it with extensions.

Anyone out there know if the MOE can ask for or check the validity of a university degree?

I have been asked to have a letter sent by my university to verify my degree.

To be honest my degree is a bit dodgy... What can I do?

I have already submitted my degree, what are the penalties if I am caught using a fake document to obtain a work permit?

I have only been in Thailand for a year and I would hate to have to leave... HELP!!!

Its going to depend on the consulate you apply at. Some will insist on a letter with a MOE stamp etc. Others are less demanding and will take a letter and contact info for things like Muay Thai schools etc.

If they want a MOE then either you have it or you don't. They might give you a Non IM O or triple tourist visa if you lay out what your doing but don't quite qualify for a ED visa.

If you get a triple entry TV visa then you can get 9 months out of it with extensions.

Are you responding to the OP in this thread?

If you are, wow!

Anyone out there know if the MOE can ask for or check the validity of a university degree?

I have been asked to have a letter sent by my university to verify my degree.

To be honest my degree is a bit dodgy... What can I do?

I have already submitted my degree, what are the penalties if I am caught using a fake document to obtain a work permit?

I have only been in Thailand for a year and I would hate to have to leave... HELP!!!

Its going to depend on the consulate you apply at. Some will insist on a letter with a MOE stamp etc. Others are less demanding and will take a letter and contact info for things like Muay Thai schools etc.

If they want a MOE then either you have it or you don't. They might give you a Non IM O or triple tourist visa if you lay out what your doing but don't quite qualify for a ED visa.

If you get a triple entry TV visa then you can get 9 months out of it with extensions.

Are you responding to the OP in this thread?

If you are, wow!

yes I was responding to the OP... Why wow?

If avatars are any indication, I think Buckwheat would provide the best answer to this thread.

Edited February 24, 200719 yr by sriracha john

yes I was responding to the OP... Why wow?

I think you missed the part about the work permit. The OP, already in Thailand now, has applied to work as a teacher at a university.

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Anyone out there know if the MOE can ask for or check the validity of a university degree?

I have been asked to have a letter sent by my university to verify my degree.

To be honest my degree is a bit dodgy... What can I do?

I have already submitted my degree, what are the penalties if I am caught using a fake document to obtain a work permit?

I have only been in Thailand for a year and I would hate to have to leave... HELP!!!

dictionary, you're a thai national right? i'm not even a teacher, but reading this gives me the same creepy feeling i get when i see katuhy's try and deceive foreigners. i used to not understand what was meant by "troll".

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

I am not condoning this as a solution for the OP but maybe a little creativity is called for here and perhaps some useful tweaking involving microsoft word and or photoshop is in order to produce the required letter. Let's face it the powers here wouldn't know if it was genuine or not and as I always like to say; 'who watches the watchers' - nobody is the answer.

Edited February 24, 200719 yr by Casanundra

Anyone out there know if the MOE can ask for or check the validity of a university degree?

I have been asked to have a letter sent by my university to verify my degree.

To be honest my degree is a bit dodgy... What can I do?

I have already submitted my degree, what are the penalties if I am caught using a fake document to obtain a work permit?

I have only been in Thailand for a year and I would hate to have to leave... HELP!!!

In my case, my university belongs to some group that has a third party verify degrees. Now, if anyone wanted a verification from my school (state university in America), THAT PERSON had to pay a fee and then the third party would send a verification letter. When I inquired how to get a verification for employment, the response I got was to have the company make the request and pay the fee.

What was happening was that too many hours were being spent verifying degrees for all the graduates for the past 40 or whatever years, so schools started contracting this out to others. The number of universities and colleges this group handles (the one my school uses) is numerous. And this is just one, I don't know if there are more that handle other schools. Once places like the Thai MOE find out they will have to pay a fee to verify degrees, I suspect this requirement will not be so strictly enforced.

Despite my previous joke........

It seems we are talking about fraud here.

Thread closed.

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