3 hours ago, Russell17au said:

Get off your bandwagons fellas because your own home countries use leg shakles to transport prisoners to courts and in some case they are left on during the court hearings, it is up to the judge to rule if they are to be removed for the hearing.

USA -  Such restraints are often used in the United States in courtrooms, or for transporting prisoners, or in other public situations as a safeguard against escape. They are used above all when detainees are to be restrained over a longer period of time, for example during transport or at court hearings.

Australia - https://www.dailymercury.com.au/news/prison-escape-accused-faces...court.../3436886/Jun 8, 2018 - Alleged escapee Nelson Jack Kepa, 21, appeared before Mackay Magistrates Court with his legs shackled, wearing prison greens.

 

Not in the UK.

1 hour ago, Russell17au said:

No, there is no such thing. Prisoners in first world countries like America, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and most of the European countries still shackles all prisoners to transport them from the remand centre to the courts and then it is up to the judge at the court to decide if those shackles are to stay on or removed for the duration of the hearing. Thailand is no different in this matter than any other country. In America sometimes they use what are called belly chains, which is a belt with a chain passing through a loop and is connected to the handcuffs at one end and the shackles at the other end.

Not in the UK. banned many years ago.

This is why I love China. They do the tit for tat which mostly works.

 

Thailand gives an Aussie in shackles. Aussies give you a Thai in......cosy pyjamas. Oh I dunno.

8 hours ago, Xaos said:

No shoes, no flip flops, terrible.

international standards, Thailand 4.0, the world understands us etc etc 555

The actions were shameful, the excuses embarrassing.

Your staff are so poor there was a real risk of flight?

If this guy behaved himself in the past and didn't go on a rant and try to trash a police station, he may have been treated better. If he was a normal poor farang he would not even be in the news.

Boo Hoo, I am so heart broken to see the pictures, NOT!

Geezer

An intriguing aspect of this is that in its initial photo of Hakeem the newspaper that can't be mentioned here photoshopped (very poorly) out the shackles. Terrible journalistic practice but I wonder what the reasons were? Shame? A pathetic attempt to protect Thailand's image? They have now restored the true photographic representation of the shackles but they deserve a lot of criticism for this? How can you trust any of their photos?

 

There was a case during the troubles of 2009-2010, where a journalist attacked a redshirt woman. His cameras and camera bag were photoshopped out of the picture. It was spun as "Furious local resident attacks redshirt invasion". Or words to that effect. The picture was full of high drama and went on to win a prize from the Thai Journalists Association for Best Picture. This, even though  they knew and openly admitted it was photoshopped. They gave it the prize because of the "drama".

 

LOL. Where would he run to, home in Bahrain?

On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 12:06 PM, owl sees all said:

When Red Bull man finally get returned by a 'red notice', will he be in leg irons?

 

Come back soon Boss; all is forgiven.

Yes, he will if he is held in custody and has to appear outside the prison.  Just like this man.

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

Yes, he will if he is held in custody and has to appear outside the prison.  Just like this man.

I'd bet 1m baht that he wouldn't be shoeless and in shackles.

On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 12:11 PM, billd766 said:

They didn't even provide him with shoes, sandals or flip flops.

Prisons here do not supply footwear for prisoners, he's free to wear his own, though.  Perhaps he chose not to wear any?

19 hours ago, JAG said:

I'm sure that I read somewhere that there is some kind of international convention, to which Thailand is a signatory, which prohibits, amongst other things, shackling prisoners in this way.

Which international convention would that be, if you're so sure of it?  Would it be the one that the US, for instance, didn't ratify?

18 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

I bet all those countries allow the prisoners to wear shoes though, even if they are clapped in irons.

Thailand allows prisoners to wear footwear also, where did it say that he was prevented from doing that?

17 hours ago, Spidey said:

Not in the UK.

Shackles are used when necessary to secure prisoners in the UK.

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

Shackles are used when necessary to secure prisoners in the UK.

Absolutely not! Been banned for many years.

1 hour ago, tomta said:

An intriguing aspect of this is that in its initial photo of Hakeem the newspaper that can't be mentioned here photoshopped (very poorly) out the shackles. 

The Bangkok Post did that in it's pictures also.  What is "the newspaper that can't be mentioned here" that you refer to?

19 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I'd bet 1m baht that he wouldn't be shoeless and in shackles.

Easy for you to say that. 

 

He would not have been forced to have no footwear, that doesn't happen.

27 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

Shackles are used when necessary to secure prisoners in the UK.

Ali G was shackled after his speech in that US University.

29 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

The Bangkok Post did that in it's pictures also.  What is "the newspaper that can't be mentioned here" that you refer to?

The item on this on Channel 3 news at lunchtime had the shackles blurred out.

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

Which international convention would that be, if you're so sure of it?  Would it be the one that the US, for instance, didn't ratify?

I don't know - you see, that's why I said that I was sure I had read it somewhere.

If I knew which one it was, (if it existed), then I would have quoted or "linked" it. I don't, so I didn't.

 

Is there one the US didn't ratify then?

And what is the explanation for denying him the use of shoes, even simple flip flops?

 

BTW in the BBC video he looks very unwell, and clutches his stomach as if in pain in one of the last clips  ????

 

I'd be curious to know how many prisoners have every taken flight while at a courthouse  surrounded by officers etc.

On 2/5/2019 at 11:49 AM, rkidlad said:

Yea, seems to be less of a worry when the rich are accused (or even convicted) of crimes. 

Yep, even allowed to visit the bathroom and walk out the door, flee the country and more.

On ‎2‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 2:54 PM, PREM-R said:

The item on this on Channel 3 news at lunchtime had the shackles blurred out.

Why are you telling me that?  My post was a question to tomta about a newspaper's name.

On 2/5/2019 at 12:48 PM, colinneil said:

Prison warden your full it sh++e, he was shackled for 1 reason only..... To humiliate him, show him we can do what we want, pathetic, why are you and others like you trying to take Thailand back to the dark ages?

Typical behaviour of f xxxig brainless cretins, had he been on the red balls team of athletes he would already be heading home to Aus. 

On 2/9/2019 at 1:23 PM, Just Weird said:

Why are you telling me that?  My post was a question to tomta about a newspaper's name.

I was replying to your post with the quote from tomta.  When my post appeared it only quoted your contribution without tamda's post. 

I have posted below what I thought I was posting originally.  I hope that is now clear to you.

 

On 2/6/2019 at 12:35 PM, tomta said:

An intriguing aspect of this is that in its initial photo of Hakeem the newspaper that can't be mentioned here photoshopped (very poorly) out the shackles. 

 

The Bangkok Post did that in it's pictures also.  What is "the newspaper that can't be mentioned here" that you refer to?