webfact Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Putin to U.S.: I'm ready for another Cuban Missile-style crisis if you want one By Andrew Osborn Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the Federal Assembly, including the State Duma parliamentarians, members of the Federation Council, regional governors and other high-ranking officials, in Moscow, Russia February 20, 2019. Sputnik/Alexei Nikolsky/Kremlin via REUTERS/File Photo MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia is militarily ready for a Cuban Missile-style crisis if the United States wanted one and threatened to place hypersonic nuclear missiles on ships or submarines near U.S. territorial waters. The Cuban Missile Crisis erupted in 1962 when Moscow responded to a U.S. missile deployment in Turkey by sending ballistic missiles to Cuba, sparking a standoff that brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. More than five decades on, tensions are rising again over Russian fears that the United States might deploy intermediate-range nuclear missiles in Europe, as a landmark Cold War-era arms-control treaty unravels. Putin's comments, made to Russian media late on Wednesday, follow his warning that Moscow will match any U.S. move to deploy new missiles closer to Russia by stationing its own missiles closer to the United States or by deploying faster missiles or both. Putin detailed his warning for the first time, saying Russia could deploy hypersonic missiles on ships and submarines which could lurk outside U.S. territorial waters if Washington now moved to deploy intermediate-range nuclear weapons in Europe. "(We're talking about) naval delivery vehicles: submarines or surface ships. And we can put them, given the speed and range (of our missiles)... in neutral waters. Plus they are not stationary, they move and they will have to find them," Putin said, according to a Kremlin transcript. "You work it out: Mach nine (the speed of the missiles) and over 1,000 km (their range)." TREATY VIOLATIONS The State Department dismissed Putin's earlier warning as propaganda, saying it was designed to divert attention from what Washington alleges are Moscow's violations of the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty. It referred queries about Putin's latest remarks to the Pentagon, which did not immediately respond. The INF pact bans Russia and the United States from stationing short- and intermediate-range land-based missiles in Europe. Washington announced on Feb. 1 it will withdraw from the treaty in six months unless Moscow ends its alleged violations. Analyst Kingston Reif of the Arms Control Association think tank said Putin may be seeking to signal that Russia can keep up with the United States, to distract from its internal problems or to deflect blame for the parlous state of the INF treaty. "He may also be trying to send the message that, look, neither side should want this world (of a new arms race) so we should sit down and resume discussions," Reif said. Putin has said he does not want an arms race but would have no choice but to act if Washington deployed new missiles in Europe, some of which he says could strike Moscow within 10 to 12 minutes. The United States does not currently have ground-based intermediate-range nuclear missiles that it could place in Europe but could develop and deploy them if the INF treaty collapses. Putin said his naval response to such a move would mean Russia could strike the United States faster than U.S. missiles deployed in Europe could hit Moscow because the flight time would be shorter. "It (the calculation) would not be in their favour, at least as things stand today. That's for sure." said Putin. Relations between Moscow and Washington were strained, he added, but the tensions were not comparable to those of the Cuban Missile Crisis. "They (the tensions) are not a reason to ratchet up confrontation to the levels of the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 1960s. In any case that's not what we want," said Putin. "If someone wants that, well OK they are welcome. I have set out today what that would mean. Let them count (the missile flight times)." Separately, Washington said on Thursday that it was carrying out an observation flight over Russia under the Open Skies Treaty, the first one since 2017. In a statement, the Pentagon said an unarmed OC-135B aircraft was being used and Russia was aware of the flight. (Additional reporting by Arshad Mohammed in Washington; Editing by Gareth Jones, Bernadette Baum and James Dalgleish) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-02-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 It would be mutual destruction so not sure what he is on about. he may have fast missiles that just means we would die before our missiles hit him. Ignore him and develop missile defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Putin and Donald are playing games (I hope)Donald is a bit of a nut job so unless pre arranged I wouldn’t push to hard Donald is kinda desperate right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: Putin to U.S.: I'm ready for another Cuban Missile-style crisis if you want one What if they don't want one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Are Trump and Putin manufacturing a crisis so they can claim credit for sorting it out later? Not as if Trump hasn't done this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catoni Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 It's all that war mongerer Trump's fault. Blame Trump. Russia and Putin are peace loving people bothering no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Strictly for domestic consumption with flames fanned by the destructive 24 hour global news media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catoni Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Putin developed high tech hyper-sonic nuclear cruise missile nukes only in response to western nations ..U.S., British, French and Israeli aggression in the world. Now the U.S., British, French and Israeli aggressors are upset, because they don't have hyper-sonic cruise missile nukes yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 With Putin as Russian president and the rocket man the US would need another president to handle them. Unfortunately those before Trump were not better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 As Putin at best plays Trump like a fiddle and at worst is his handler this is purely for domestic consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Both countries act like school yard bullies armed with nuclear weapons...what could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Tug said: Putin and Donald are playing games (I hope)Donald is a bit of a nut job so unless pre arranged I wouldn’t push to hard Donald is kinda desperate right now Pure Tripe unless you also point out that Putin is also a bit of a nut job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMarKable Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Catoni said: It's all that war mongerer Trump's fault. Blame Trump. Russia and Putin are peace loving people bothering no one. crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickbat Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just bs. To protect his stooge in the White House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I guess the whole "TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN ASSET" narrative isnt working out so well now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thainesss said: I guess the whole "TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN ASSET" narrative isnt working out so well now. Because? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Becker said: Because? So you honest to god think Trump is a Russian asset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Cryingdick said: Ignore him and develop missile defense. Your tax dollars at work ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Thainesss said: So you honest to god think Trump is a Russian asset? It's painfully obvious that at best Trump is a stooge for Putin and at worst he's doing Putin's bidding - most likely because of "kompromat" in Putin's possession. Either way he's an asset for Russia/Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, hyku1147 said: This could unify segments of the US population. At the same time, it will completely neutralize what remains of the Russian Collusion hoax. If Communist Russia becomes the enemy, then the Democrats will have to abandon their Socialist platform: LOL "This could unify segments of the US population." Which segments are you talking about and how could this be achieved? "At the same time, it will completely neutralize what remains of the Russian Collusion hoax." You're confused. The only thing that would "neutralize what remains of the Russian Collusion" is for Mueller to issue a report clearing Trump of any wrongdoing. "If Communist Russia becomes the enemy, then the Democrats will have to abandon their Socialist platform" Again, you're confused. Do try to educated yourself by looking up the definitions of terms you pepper your posts with. Russia isn't communist, it's robber baron capitalist and a dictatorship wrapped in the cloak of a fake democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Becker said: It's painfully obvious that at best Trump is a stooge for Putin and at worst he's doing Putin's bidding - most likely because of "kompromat" in Putin's possession. Either way he's an asset for Russia/Putin. Painfully obvious? To date there has been literally and specifically zero evidence to support such a claim and theres even a Special Council investigating Trump with a mandate that allows them to investigate any issue that stems from the investigation. What you espouse is tinfoil hat garbage that has no basis on fact. Leftwing tabloid clickbait articles and opinion is not evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Why are so many idiots in control of the destiny of the human race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Why is Europe not saying any words about this all? Tell Trump to pee off and boycot him totally.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, anterian said: Why are so many idiots in control of the destiny of the human race? It's only 2 complete idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, hyku1147 said: LOL https://www.historyonthenet.com/is-russia-communist I just love it when some posters hilariously post links to stuff that totally goes against what they claim to be true. From your linked article (my underlining): "Communist ideologies have, however not totally come to an end in the new, capitalist Russia." PS. I tried to resist but what the heck: LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Thainesss said: Painfully obvious? To date there has been literally and specifically zero evidence to support such a claim and theres even a Special Council investigating Trump with a mandate that allows them to investigate any issue that stems from the investigation. What you espouse is tinfoil hat garbage that has no basis on fact. Leftwing tabloid clickbait articles and opinion is not evidence. Maybe you should try to actually read and comprehend what I wrote instead of throwing a hissy fit. I did not claim that there is any clear evidence Trump is a Russian agent (so far), although that can change any day. What I did say was that "It's painfully obvious that at best Trump is a stooge for Putin and at worst he's doing Putin's bidding - most likely because of "kompromat" in Putin's possession. Either way he's an asset for Russia/Putin." Based on all the cozy interactions (public as well as those that were attempted to be hush-hush) and the way he's constantly playing into Putin's hands no other conclusion can be drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 They failed to deploy Novichock on a door handle properly pukin now looking a fool time to start a war get big Don in a judo suit and slug it out without nukes ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Mueller is about to publish his report. He and/or SDNY might veŷry well indict Trump in office. Trump’s kids are on the brink of indictment. The lid is about to come off why Trump employee Acosta so soon after Acosta gave Epstein an unlawful and ridiculously lenient plea deal. Over the hill comes Putin with a canned distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Mueller is about to publish his report. He and/or SDNY might veŷry well indict Trump in office. Trump’s kids are on the brink of indictment. The lid is about to come off why Trump employee Acosta so soon after Acosta gave Epstein an unlawful and ridiculously lenient plea deal. Over the hill comes Putin with a canned distraction. More good news: Fox News Legal Analyst Says Trump Implicated In 2 Specific Crimes In New Report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Becker said: Maybe you should try to actually read and comprehend what I wrote instead of throwing a hissy fit. I did not claim that there is any clear evidence Trump is a Russian agent (so far), although that can change any day. What I did say was that "It's painfully obvious that at best Trump is a stooge for Putin and at worst he's doing Putin's bidding - most likely because of "kompromat" in Putin's possession. Either way he's an asset for Russia/Putin." Based on all the cozy interactions (public as well as those that were attempted to be hush-hush) and the way he's constantly playing into Putin's hands no other conclusion can be drawn. Clapper agrees with you, but then again he's a known perjurer: https://www.yahoo.com/news/james-clapper-donald-trump-may-113338921.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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