BookMan Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Some interesting games this week. Hawthorn V Sydney WCE v St Kilda Adelaide V GWS North Melb v Fremantle Port V Richmond Thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Some interesting games this week. Hawthorn V Sydney WCE v St Kilda Adelaide V GWS North Melb v Fremantle Port V Richmond Thoughts anyone? Hawks will be looking to open the Swans, but, I wonder will they be able to back up after really giving the Dees a hiding last week? West Coast should have the oil to run over the top of St Kilda, if they were playing at the 'G maybe not so much but I think at Etihad they'll be over the line Is it still an upset if GWS win a game this year? I'm not so sure and if it is, then this will be the upset of the round. If it was being played in Adelaide I'd say it would be an each way bet When in doubt, go against the 'roos... But playing in WA, it wasn't really in too much doubt... That being said, the 'roos do have a good record in the West... I think Port will be looking to be über agressive here against Richmond having been given a touch up by the Lions last week. Hard and fast footy for 3 quarters will see the Power reclaim (at least temporarily) "the Portress".. I also think the Gold Coast v The Empire will be one to cause a bit of heart burn... If the Suns turn up to play then the could do a number on the Pies.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Some interesting games this week. Hawthorn V Sydney WCE v St Kilda Adelaide V GWS North Melb v Fremantle Port V Richmond Thoughts anyone? I like Sydney in this one. Think your boys are travelling a bit better than the hawks at the minute. I'd like to think my boys will get the choccies against the Saints. Ade v GWS is the hardest of the round for me. Maybe GWS at home? It's hard to pick against Freo at home but they're due to drop one. I think Port will easily take care of Richmond. I agree with Mr Smith, GC might cause an upset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRRR Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Was just a training drill for the Hawks last week they will be fresh as a dazzzzzzy Come on guys Saints won't be a match for the Eagles in Perth I wouldn't be comfortable picking the Crows either, and we know what the Tigers can be like, not so easy after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Was just a training drill for the Hawks last week they will be fresh as a dazzzzzzy Come on guys Saints won't be a match for the Eagles in Perth I wouldn't be comfortable picking the Crows either, and we know what the Tigers can be like, not so easy after all. It isn't in Perth mate. Edited May 21, 2015 by Will27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Was just a training drill for the Hawks last week they will be fresh as a dazzzzzzy Come on guys Saints won't be a match for the Eagles in Perth I wouldn't be comfortable picking the Crows either, and we know what the Tigers can be like, not so easy after all. It isn't in Perth mate. Apologies if i misled anyone by not placing the home team first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Was just a training drill for the Hawks last week they will be fresh as a dazzzzzzy Come on guys Saints won't be a match for the Eagles in Perth I wouldn't be comfortable picking the Crows either, and we know what the Tigers can be like, not so easy after all. It isn't in Perth mate. Apologies if i misled anyone by not placing the home team first Indeed that was in some kind of special order 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Some interesting games this week. Hawthorn V Sydney WCE v St Kilda Adelaide V GWS North Melb v Fremantle Port V Richmond Thoughts anyone? Sydney haven't quite got their act together this year...but neither has Hawthorn. Cunningham back for Sydney...So 3 speedsters in the side. Cunningham, Rohan and jetta. I'd like to see them taking on the opposition and creating some running chaos. My concern for Sydney is their ability to close down hawthorn around the top of the 50 metre arc... Haven't decided who i am back ing there Weagles V St Kilda... West Coast to be too strong there. Smaller ground might favour St Kilda slightly. Adelaide v GWS... GWS, based only it being their home game North V Freo.. Freo here. The danger fro Freo is a 4th quarter freeze, North can barnstorm from behind. Port V Rcihmond. Port to bounce back on their home ground. Edited May 21, 2015 by BookMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Some interesting games this week. Hawthorn V Sydney WCE v St Kilda Adelaide V GWS North Melb v Fremantle Port V Richmond Thoughts anyone? Hawthorn v Swans in Melb a big ? WCE V St Kilda in Melbpurne a big ? Adelaide V GWS in Sydney GWS North Melb V Fremante in WA Freo Port V Richmond in Adelaide Port 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xangsamhua Posted May 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2015 Does anyone give the Lions a chance against Essendon at Etihad on Sunday? Lions coming off two wins; Bombers off two losses. Essendon have some good players coming back and a couple out injured. Lions have essentially the same side that beat Port comfortably last week (with Claye Beams returning to the bench). Lions on a roll (?); Bombers have some problems? Lions have beaten the Bombers at Etihad in the last couple of years. I've picked the Lions, but on a prayer more than a wing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) A question for the fantasy boys. Last year you could move dual players(fwd/mid)around for one trade,this year its not avalible? Tried today but cannot. Lions v bombers,a chance but i wont be picking them. I like the roos v dockers but would rather lose a pick and see roos win. Hawks will bounce back. Doggies to crush demons. Picked port but think tigers are a real chance here. Geelong. Adelaide's old heads to do GWS. Eagles just. And the pies convincingly. Edited May 21, 2015 by farmerjo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 New bidding system for father-sons, academies THE DRAFT will have an extra dimension this year after the AFL revealed its new father-son and northern academy players bidding system. Designed to ensure clubs pay closer to market value for leading draftees, the new bidding system underwent several tweaks after the AFL proposed it to clubs in January. The League executive put it forward to the Commission last month and it has been passed, which was confirmed on Thursday. Under the reformed bidding system – which was developed throughout last year – each draft selection is allocated a points value on a sliding scale. Clubs nominating a player as a father-son or academy draftee will be forced to use their existing draft selections to match the points value of the pick used by the club bidding for the player. Click here for all the draft news The AFL has settled on a maximum discount of 20 per cent for academy and father-son players in the first round. After that, the discount will be fixed at 197 points - the discount for pick 18. The AFL is hopeful of having the bidding as a live element of draft night, but only if the required technology is ready for clubs to use. Statistics company Champion Data is developing an application to simplify the process for clubs and fans on the night. If that program is not operational, a bidding meeting is still likely to be held much closer to the draft – possibly the week before or even the night before the full draft is staged and after the completion of the trade and free agency periods. It has previously been held on the opening morning of trade period, almost eight weeks before the draft. Club feedback to the League's initial proposal was strong that the focus should be on making things equal for top end talent, but to make it easier to attain later picks. If a player is bid on after pick 56, then the nominating club need only use its last pick in the draft to list the player. The discount was initially proposed to be 15 per cent discount for father-son players and 25 per cent for academy prospects, but club feedback saw the discount set at 20 per cent for both categories in their recommendation to the Commission. Last year, Melbourne bid pick two for Isaac Heeney, which under the new system is worth 2517 points. After the 20 per cent discount, the Swans would have needed 2013 points to match the bid and move up to pick No.2. To do that they would have used the 985 points assigned to pick 18, and the remaining 1028 points subtracted from their remaining picks. In essence, they would have traded picks 18, 37, 38 and 57 for Heeney (at pick two) and pick 64, where their original pick 57 slid back to. Picks 18, 37 and 38 would have remained live, but been pushed to the end of the draft. The sophisticated system replaces the old process under which a club could bid on a nominated player and the club would only have to match the bid with its next pick. The change is perhaps the biggest overhaul to the NAB AFL Draft since the annual player selection meeting was established, and is set to add an exciting element to the process. It may see recruiters having to decide during the draft whether they will match another club's bid for a father-son or academy player, with the chance that some early bids will see clubs need to use multiple draft selections to claim the nominated player. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/new-bidding-system-introduced-for-fatherson-and-northern-academy-players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 New bidding system for father-sons, academies THE DRAFT will have an extra dimension this year after the AFL revealed its new father-son and northern academy players bidding system. Designed to ensure clubs pay closer to market value for leading draftees, the new bidding system underwent several tweaks after the AFL proposed it to clubs in January. The League executive put it forward to the Commission last month and it has been passed, which was confirmed on Thursday. Under the reformed bidding system – which was developed throughout last year – each draft selection is allocated a points value on a sliding scale. Clubs nominating a player as a father-son or academy draftee will be forced to use their existing draft selections to match the points value of the pick used by the club bidding for the player. Click here for all the draft news The AFL has settled on a maximum discount of 20 per cent for academy and father-son players in the first round. After that, the discount will be fixed at 197 points - the discount for pick 18. The AFL is hopeful of having the bidding as a live element of draft night, but only if the required technology is ready for clubs to use. Statistics company Champion Data is developing an application to simplify the process for clubs and fans on the night. If that program is not operational, a bidding meeting is still likely to be held much closer to the draft – possibly the week before or even the night before the full draft is staged and after the completion of the trade and free agency periods. It has previously been held on the opening morning of trade period, almost eight weeks before the draft. Club feedback to the League's initial proposal was strong that the focus should be on making things equal for top end talent, but to make it easier to attain later picks. If a player is bid on after pick 56, then the nominating club need only use its last pick in the draft to list the player. The discount was initially proposed to be 15 per cent discount for father-son players and 25 per cent for academy prospects, but club feedback saw the discount set at 20 per cent for both categories in their recommendation to the Commission. Last year, Melbourne bid pick two for Isaac Heeney, which under the new system is worth 2517 points. After the 20 per cent discount, the Swans would have needed 2013 points to match the bid and move up to pick No.2. To do that they would have used the 985 points assigned to pick 18, and the remaining 1028 points subtracted from their remaining picks. In essence, they would have traded picks 18, 37, 38 and 57 for Heeney (at pick two) and pick 64, where their original pick 57 slid back to. Picks 18, 37 and 38 would have remained live, but been pushed to the end of the draft. The sophisticated system replaces the old process under which a club could bid on a nominated player and the club would only have to match the bid with its next pick. The change is perhaps the biggest overhaul to the NAB AFL Draft since the annual player selection meeting was established, and is set to add an exciting element to the process. It may see recruiters having to decide during the draft whether they will match another club's bid for a father-son or academy player, with the chance that some early bids will see clubs need to use multiple draft selections to claim the nominated player. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/new-bidding-system-introduced-for-fatherson-and-northern-academy-players Clearly a move to appease Emperor McGuire but also a good way for the teams that have strong academies and strong father/son prospects in the same draft to do away with otherwise useless back end draft picks... It'll mostly affect Brisbane / Gold Coast / GWS / Sydney - as it's designed to do but I can already see Kinnear Beatson and Tom Harley already crunching the numbers for the Swans, hopefully this year won't see them crunching those numbers with their hands behind their backs.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 A question for the fantasy boys. Last year you could move dual players(fwd/mid)around for one trade,this year its not avalible? Tried today but cannot. You mean trading a player out and bringing in a new one or just shuffling the cards (so to speak)? If trading out old for new, you need to make sure the DPP you're trading out is in the same area (def/mid/ruc/fwd) as the player you're trading in. So you can't trade out a DPP (fwd/mid) from your fwd line for a single position midfielder unless the DPP is in your midfield.. Hope that makes sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 New bidding system for father-sons, academies http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/new-bidding-system-introduced-for-fatherson-and-northern-academy-players Clearly a move to appease Emperor McGuire but also a good way for the teams that have strong academies and strong father/son prospects in the same draft to do away with otherwise useless back end draft picks... It'll mostly affect Brisbane / Gold Coast / GWS / Sydney - as it's designed to do but I can already see Kinnear Beatson and Tom Harley already crunching the numbers for the Swans, hopefully this year won't see them crunching those numbers with their hands behind their backs.. There's a simple way to get Eddie and Co off of your backs guys. Stop playing in finals, especially GF's for a while 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 New bidding system for father-sons, academies http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/new-bidding-system-introduced-for-fatherson-and-northern-academy-players Clearly a move to appease Emperor McGuire but also a good way for the teams that have strong academies and strong father/son prospects in the same draft to do away with otherwise useless back end draft picks... It'll mostly affect Brisbane / Gold Coast / GWS / Sydney - as it's designed to do but I can already see Kinnear Beatson and Tom Harley already crunching the numbers for the Swans, hopefully this year won't see them crunching those numbers with their hands behind their backs.. There's a simple way to get Eddie and Co off of your backs guys. Stop playing in finals, especially GF's for a while Heeney himself admits he wouldn't have played AFL were it not for the Swans academy. The new system is fair and transparent for all. I don't have a problem with it One unintended consequence could be where clubs make a bid for a player another club is sure to want/take, purely to force a rival club to use up their points early on in the draft In the case of a Heeney. Say Sydney have pick 16-18. Collingwood could bid for him with an early pick, with no real intention of wanting him. That then forces Sydney (or whoever) to use their trump card early, with the resultant loss of points/picks in the new system. Sydney have had and still have a good set of systems in place to identify fringe or lesser wanted players and develop them into playing Gold. They tend to move on the ones who don't work out to Collingwood or St Kilda fairly quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Heeney himself admits he wouldn't have played AFL were it not for the Swans academy. The new system is fair and transparent for all. I don't have a problem with it One unintended consequence could be where clubs make a bid for a player another club is sure to want/take, purely to force a rival club to use up their points early on in the draft In the case of a Heeney. Say Sydney have pick 16-18. Collingwood could bid for him with an early pick, with no real intention of wanting him. That then forces Sydney (or whoever) to use their trump card early, with the resultant loss of points/picks in the new system. Sydney have had and still have a good set of systems in place to identify fringe or lesser wanted players and develop them into playing Gold. They tend to move on the ones who don't work out to Collingwood or St Kilda fairly quickly. This will be the 'gamble' clubs take, take this years draft for example, the Swans have 2 gun rookies who'll (most likely) be nominating for the draft. 1 is an academy player (Callum Mills tipped to go early like Heeney) and the other a father/son pick Josh Dunkley (Andrew Dunkley's young fella)... Now the interesting thing here that Josh hasn't committed to being a father/son pick for the Swans. It's interesting due to the "history" between Dunks and the club. There was a bit of bad blood between him and Roosey after Roosey delisted Dunks and he hasn't been back to the club since! His old man had said that he'd prefer Josh stay in Victoria and get drafted on his own merits and not off his back... Giving it a bit more thought, I don't think this new system will hurt Brisbane too much this year or the next, they'll be duking it out with Carlton for the #1 pick for a few years yet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron19 Posted May 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Edited May 22, 2015 by Ron19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ripstanley Posted May 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2015 I would say bye bye Mick A Carlton press conference is being organised at the moment. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post farmerjo Posted May 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) I would say bye bye Mick A Carlton press conference is being organised at the moment. I say leave him there till they have played the roos. Laidley to take over? Edited May 22, 2015 by farmerjo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I would say bye bye Mick A Carlton press conference is being organised at the moment. I say leave him there till they have played the roos. Laidley to take over? I hope he will be there next week They play the Swans I doubt he will be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 That geeelong v Carlton game was a terrble waste of my Friday evening and my 175gram allowance of Salt n Vinegar chips 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I would say bye bye Mick A Carlton press conference is being organised at the moment. If he survives the week, I doubt he'll survive after the Swans game. I can see the Swans belting them by 100 plus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 That geeelong v Carlton game was a terrble waste of my Friday evening and my 175gram allowance of Salt n Vinegar chips Don't worry BookMan, I think they only have another 3 Friday night games to go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 That geeelong v Carlton game was a terrble waste of my Friday evening and my 175gram allowance of Salt n Vinegar chips Don't worry BookMan, I think they only have another 3 Friday night games to go Shame isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron19 Posted May 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2015 Subject: FW: Fw: Fwd: Who said Aussie Rules footballers aren't smart------------------------------------------This is too funny to not pass on. Duh!! And we idolise them?'I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and father.'(Shane Wakelin).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like NormanEinstein.'(Mick Malthouse - Collingwood).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'I'm going to graduate on time, no matter how long it takes.'(Peter Bell - Fremantle - on his University Law studies).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'You guys line up alphabetically by height.' and 'You guys pair up in groupsof three, then line up in a circle.'(Barry Hall Sydney Captain at training)..~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Brock Maclean ( Melbourne ) on whether he had visited the Pyramids Duringhis visit to Egypt :'I can't really remember the names of the clubs that we went to.'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(THIS IS PRICELESS!)'He's a guy who gets up at six o'clock in the morning regardless of whattime it is.'(Kevin Sheedy on James Hird).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Jonathan Brown, on night Grand Finals vs Day Games 'It's basically the same,just darker.'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ron Barassi talking about Gary Cowton 'I told him, 'Son, what is it withyou. Is it ignorance or apathy?'He said, 'Barass, I don't know and I don't care.' (HYSTERICAL)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Barry Hall ( Sydney ) when asked about the upcoming season:'I want to kick 70 or 80 goals this season, whichever comes first.'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'Luke Hodge - the 21 year old, who turned 22 a few weeks ago'(Dermott Brereton).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'Chad had done a bit of mental arithmetic with a calculator.'(Mark Williams).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~At least this one could have been ironic?'We actually got the winning goal three minutes from the end but then theyscored.'(Ben Cousins, West Coast Eagles).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'I've never had major knee surgery on any other part of my body.'(Luke Darcy).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'That kick was absolutely unique, except for the one before it which wasidentical.'(Dermott Brereton).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'Sure there have been injuries and deaths in football - but none of themserious.'(Adrian Anderson).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thingagain.(Andrew Demetriou).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'I would not say he (Chris Judd) is the best centreman in the AFL but thereare none better.' (Dermott Brereton).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'I never comment on umpires and I'm not going to break the habit of alifetime for that prat.' (Terry Wallace).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Garry Lyon : 'Have you ever thought of writing your autobiography?'David Swartz: 'On what?'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'Well, either side could win it, or it could be a draw.'(Dermott Brereton).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'Strangely, in slow motion replay, the ball seemed to hang in the air foreven longer.'(Dermott Brereton).~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ripper first Q Swans V Hawthorn... I changed my Tip to hawthorn half an hour before the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ripper first Q Swans V Hawthorn... I changed my Tip to hawthorn half an hour before the game If Hawthorn had kicked straight they would be in front. Good comeback in 2nd quarter. Swans up by 13 points at halftime. I stayed with the Swans. I can only hope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BookMan Posted May 23, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ripper first Q Swans V Hawthorn... I changed my Tip to hawthorn half an hour before the game If Hawthorn had kicked straight they would be in front. Good comeback in 2nd quarter. Swans up by 13 points at halftime. I stayed with the Swans. I can only hope That game got the heart going...Sydney lucky to win in many ways...but still a cracker of a game. Too bad i changed my tip... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ripstanley Posted May 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2015 The ladder is interesting. 1 and 2 from Perth, 3 and 4 from Sydney. This will not change after tomorrow. After 8 rounds this will be a first. Eddie will not like this 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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