Thai Visa Center

[DKJP]

I have used an agent call "Thai Visa Center" to get my Non O Visa (What we called Retirement Visa. It is for the people over 50 years old with 8oo thousands THB deposit at Thai Bank account) .
They offered me one year Non O visa after I have paid 38000THB.

But the problem was aroused when I showed my visa to the immigration passport control at the airport.
The visa stamp on my passport was issued in Province Area "ROI-Et" where I have never been.

I live in Bangkok and the agent have never told me about it at the time I obtained the visa.

 

Do you think that I can cancel this visa without going to Roi Et?
And do I have any penalty for having such a visa?

[Maestro]

24 minutes ago, DKJP said:

...But the problem was aroused when I showed my visa to the immigration passport control at the airport...

At what airport did you show this visa and to what airport did you fly? What is the expiration date of the visa? What other stamps, if any, did you get in your passport based on this visa, eg arrival stamp, extension of stay?

 

Your photo shows only a minute part of the visa stamp but this appears very much to be a fake visa and it is surprising that you did not get stopped at the airport or worse, detained.

[elviajero]

1 hour ago, DKJP said:

They offered me one year Non O visa after I have paid 38000THB.

Nice work if you can get it! 34,000 THB profit.

 

1 hour ago, DKJP said:

But the problem was aroused when I showed my visa to the immigration passport control at the airport.
The visa stamp on my passport was issued in Province Area "ROI-Et" where I have never been.

What problem? 

 

It doesn’t matter where a visa is issued.

 

1 hour ago, DKJP said:

Do you think that I can cancel this visa without going to Roi Et?

The visa was almost certainly used when issued. So there is nothing to cancel.

 

1 hour ago, DKJP said:

And do I have any penalty for having such a visa?

No. As long as it was issued by immigration.

 

 

You have apparently paid an agent to get a non-imm visa (2,000 THB) which is normally done as a prerequisite to applying for a 1 year extension of of stay (1,900 THB) based on retirement.

 

When the visa is issued it is immediately used and you’re given permission to stay for 90 days. Then at some point during the 90 days you apply for the 1 year extension. They may have issued the extension immediately.

 

It would help if you posted a picture of the stamps in your passport given after you were issued the visa.

 

My guess is that your problem is that you left and returned without using a re-entry permit which would have ended your retirement extension. In which case you’ve probably got a stamp in your passport giving you permission to stay for 30 days, and your “retirement visa“ is lost.

[Maestro]

I looked through my image gallery and see that the photo posted by the OP looks like the bottom left corner of a re-entry permit, but even as such the OP's stamp sounds and looks a bit suspect. Below is a re-entry permit I have on file:

 

The image below is of a non-immigrant visa issued by a Thai immigration office:

 

My guess would be that the OP is outside Thailand at the moment. Getting a new passport would be a way of not having his suspicious re-entry permit in his passport on his next arrival in Thailand.

[BritTim]

I am guessing that the extension and re-entry permit are genuine, in the sense that they were properly processed and entered in immigration's computer. However, there were clearly some shenanigans going on. As a general principle, never go for an extension of permission to stay through an agent that does not require your (at least brief) attendance at immigration for the photo. It is a required part of the process, and a clear red flag when the agent says they can get the extension without you going to immigration.

 

The cost of 38,000 baht is way higher than I have seen charged elsewhere.

 

One problem the OP will have now is difficulty doing 90-day reports without using the original agent. It seems the OP, according to immigration's system, is now in Roi-Et, but I assume he has no idea of the address where he is registered. Also, of course, an immigration crackdown, checking for fraudulently acquired extensions in Roi-Et could see the OP in serious trouble. My suggestion would be that he arranges to submit a TM28 to his local immigration office so that, at least, his current address is correct in immigration's system, and he should be able to submit 90-day reports. Also, he is better placed for future interactions with immigration.

[a977]

2 hours ago, BritTim said:

I am guessing that the extension and re-entry permit are genuine, in the sense that they were properly processed and entered in immigration's computer. However, there were clearly some shenanigans going on. As a general principle, never go for an extension of permission to stay through an agent that does not require your (at least brief) attendance at immigration for the photo. It is a required part of the process, and a clear red flag when the agent says they can get the extension without you going to immigration.

 

The cost of 38,000 baht is way higher than I have seen charged elsewhere.

 

One problem the OP will have now is difficulty doing 90-day reports without using the original agent. It seems the OP, according to immigration's system, is now in Roi-Et, but I assume he has no idea of the address where he is registered. Also, of course, an immigration crackdown, checking for fraudulently acquired extensions in Roi-Et could see the OP in serious trouble. My suggestion would be that he arranges to submit a TM28 to his local immigration office so that, at least, his current address is correct in immigration's system, and he should be able to submit 90-day reports. Also, he is better placed for future interactions with immigration.

And this was the problem that BJ was trying to eliminate, the backhanders to Immigration staff 38,000thb indeed,  somebody got an early Xmas present

[vlaming]

So what did they ask or say on the airport when you left or returning here?

 

[Tanoshi]

I suspect the OP arrived in Thailand on a Visa exempt or Tourist Visa and the agent did the conversion to a Non O, then a yearly extension with a multiple re-entry permit.

The concern is that the Non O and extension are usually within one day of each other, therefore omitting any seasoning period of the 800K.

 

A friend did exactly the same some years ago, but used Siam Legal @ 42,000 baht.

His extension stamp was issued one day after the Non O stamp by CW Immigration.

He lived in Amnat Charoen and on his first 90 day report, although he filed a TM28 and TM30, which they accepted, they refused to accept his 90 day report because they didn't like the way his extension had been issued, telling him to file his 90 days at the office that issued his extension.

 

It was easier for him to cross the border at Savannakhet every 90 days for 1 year.

Amnat renewed his extension the following year (following the rules) then they accepted his 90 day reports.

 

Unfortunately these agents don't give a toss about where you live in relation to contacts they have at IO's to obtain these extensions, or the problems that may proceed.