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Posted
2 hours ago, oilinki said:

Are you seriously asking these questions?

 

Each of the extensions were pledged by UK government. EU can't provide extension unless UK ask for one. 

 

 

The E.U could have rejected the applications though .

Would have taken just one member state to veto the application .

Farage and the majority of British voters  asked the E.U to reject any UK Gov applications for an extension , which was rejected by the E.U 

  The UK Gov got annihilated in the next  E.U elections and the Prime Minister resigned 

 

Posted
26 minutes ago, oilinki said:

UK is full member of the EU. 

EU is not and has never been a father figure to the UK. 

 

If you really talk in that way, perhaps you really shouldn't be independent nation. 

 

"Our nation's government asks to extend the timeline of our agreement, but my sister's boyfriend asks that you would not do it. So will you not do that?"

 

Do you understand how childish that sounds like?

 

Playtime is now over. Let's get back to the adult talk, shall we?

Yes, that  does sound rather Childish , but you was the one who wrote that and you quoted yourself and your sisters boyfriend  , well, I have no idea who he is .

  Saying that , I do hope that your sisters boyfriend and your sister can work their relationship out , although I dont see what your sister has to do with this thread topic 

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Posted
42 minutes ago, oilinki said:

I truly hope there will be a solution which will protect the EU from the UK. 

 

That is the real question. 

 

UK will slide down and UK will make silly 'Free trade' deal, which is really just a deal, not a free trade deal with USA and perhaps with China, when UK is desperate and weakest. 

 

EU will have to protect our population from the, yes cheap, but low quality products imported to the UK. 

 

There really has to be a border to protect our EU people from whatever shaite UK is about to import, not to be forwarded towards the EU. 

 

EU will also have to protect our basic food production, which will be assimilated in the UK due UK's future zero tariff policy.

 

UK is about to become EU's Mexico.  

Please , build a wall .

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Posted
10 hours ago, AlexRich said:

 

The pertinent point is that no country would be compelled to join this army. 

 

But say, for the sake of argument, the UK did? It would mean UK troops would spend less time fighting in America's wars. No bad thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

At the moment they may have a veto,but will that be the same for the future. And again I referr you to what we were told and promised in the 1975 referendum. If you are not worried about the present day set-up of the E.U. think of the future direction the Brussels Bureaucrats are lieable to take us.

In a run up to a G.E. all the major parties put forward their major policies for the future direction they intend to take us,and these we can debate and then decide where to put our X, even though we know that many of their policies will never be implemented. In the case of the E.U. the policy makers in Brussel are very vague, with their future plans,except we know they intend to lead us into a giant federal state. Ask yourselves this, if in 1975 the political establishment had been truefull,and told us about how they intended to transform a trading block called the EEC into it’s present format, the E.U.  do you honestly think the British people would have voted “YES”.

 

 

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Posted
20 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Putting a "no deal" Brexit back on the negotiating table is crucial

.....and what table you're talking about? Just imagination. 

EU refused to re-negotiate. End of story. 

Posted
57 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

.....and what table you're talking about? Just imagination. 

EU refused to re-negotiate. End of story. 

 

 

 Interestingly David Davis, remember him, the deputy to Ollie Robbins at the negotiating table, has now asked T.May to release all the papers relating to the failed negotiations, In order to help the people decide what Actually took place. Do you honestly think they will be released,and if not “Why”.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

.....and what table you're talking about? Just imagination. 

EU refused to re-negotiate. End of story. 

When Farage was pressed as to what he'd like to see the new PM do his reply was;

 

"Tell them we're leaving at 11pm on 31st October. If they want to come and talk to us beforehand we are more than willing to listen" (ie sit tight, do nothing and hold their nerve)

 

This may not be word perfect but it was bolted onto the back of a separate Sky interview seen yesterday.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Thairealist said:

 

 

 Interestingly David Davis, remember him, the deputy to Ollie Robbins at the negotiating table, has now asked T.May to release all the papers relating to the failed negotiations, In order to help the people decide what Actually took place. Do you honestly think they will be released,and if not “Why”.

Doubt it. Too embarrassing for our soon to be ex PM and her Gang! Probably nothing recorded anyway....EU style! 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Thairealist said:

 

 

 Interestingly David Davis, remember him, the deputy to Ollie Robbins at the negotiating table, has now asked T.May to release all the papers relating to the failed negotiations, In order to help the people decide what Actually took place. Do you honestly think they will be released,and if not “Why”.

Even they would be released (all?) there is no change in the outcome. The parliament want to have a deal. And the EU insists the deal is on the table. That is the situation. A NO DEAL is not any option if you respect parliament. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Thairealist said:

Interestingly David Davis, remember him, the deputy to Ollie Robbins at the negotiating table, has now asked T.May to release all the papers relating to the failed negotiations, In order to help the people decide what Actually took place. Do you honestly think they will be released,and if not “Why”.

Since when has a Cabinet Minister been subservient & where did you see this request?

(The request seems reasonable but Davis was surely 'top dog' despite Robins being deliberately tasked by no 10 to undermine him)

Posted
14 minutes ago, evadgib said:

When Farage was pressed as to what he'd like to see the new PM do his reply was;

 

"Tell them we're leaving at 11pm on 31st October. If they want to come and talk to us beforehand we are more than willing to listen" (ie sit tight, do nothing and hold their nerve)

 

This may not be word perfect but it was bolted onto the back of a separate Sky interview seen yesterday.

......and if there are no talks...? 

He will walk away, same as Boris and cronies. As I said before they don't care what will happen to the country but only to themselves. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Even they would be released (all?) there is no change in the outcome. The parliament want to have a deal. And the EU insists the deal is on the table. That is the situation. A NO DEAL is not any option if you respect parliament. 

No Deal is an option if Parliament respects democracy/the electorate.

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Posted
1 minute ago, evadgib said:

Since when has a Cabinet Minister been subservient & where did you see this request?

(The request seems reasonable but Davis was surely 'top dog' despite Robins being deliberately tasked by no 10 to undermine him)

Well sad to say it seems that, effectively, Davis was just a poodle, for the reason you give. A showpiece SINO ... Secretary In Name Only.

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Posted
Just now, evadgib said:

No Deal is an option if Parliament respects democracy/the electorate.

They decided against it already. 

Now I wonder what YOU will do? 

I suppose you live in Thailand enjoying retirement. Will you go back to UK and fight for your democracy? 

Posted
3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

No Deal is an option if Parliament respects democracy/the electorate.

And the law as it stands....

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Posted
3 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

......and if there are no talks...? 

He will walk away, same as Boris and cronies. As I said before they don't care what will happen to the country but only to themselves. 

The Mogg & Co report nothing to fear from WTO; citing 85% or so of trade being done that way without the sky falling in.

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Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

They decided against it already. 

Now I wonder what YOU will do? 

I suppose you live in Thailand enjoying retirement. Will you go back to UK and fight for your democracy? 

- Amply explaining Farage's stance.

- Deflection/not relevant.

 

The next PM will either be credited with being the one that finally delivers Brexit, or with being the last Tory Prime Minister.

 

My money is on the latter.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Refusing to negotiate is itself a well-known negotiating ploy. Our riposte should be to reprise Mrs May's original mantra, "No deal is better than a bad deal" - and show we mean business by accelerating and publicising our preparations to leave on October 31.

 

A lot has changed in our favour in the endless months wasted in the non-negotiation of the egregious Withdrawal Treaty. Our economy has proved the Project Fear predictions wrong and is buoyant compared to that of an EU. The Euro superstate is facing not only a bleak financial future but an increasingly fractious and politically-divided membership.

 

As if this weren't enough, fears of the federation's ultimate fragmentation rife in the corridors of power. In this unstable state, does anyone seriously imagine the EU oligarchs want to jettison the world's fifth largest economy - and their fourth biggest financial contributor?

 

We have a negotiating hand strong enough to call Barnier & Co's bluff. But whoever ends up playing it must be armed with he "No deal" trump card.

Second largest net contributor by total sum.

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, evadgib said:

The Mogg & Co report nothing to fear from WTO; citing 85% or so of trade being done that way without the sky falling in.

Do you believe in Santa? 

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