5 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Are the Brits really so stupid to listen to that psycho? 

Maybe if Mrs May had listened to him she would still be in employment.

He certainly knows how to trigger the snowflakes, quite amusing watching them being interviewed on Sky and BBC.

They must be close to nervous breakdowns watching the Queen and Prince Charles giving him a state reception.

Trump is NOT a global citizen. He virtually urinates on all other nations whenever he gets the  chance. Unfortunately, that seems to appeal the general US mentality and this Enemy of the World will probably be elected again. 

6 minutes ago, stag4 said:

He certainly knows how to trigger the snowflakes, quite amusing watching them being interviewed on Sky and BBC.

They must be close to nervous breakdowns watching the Queen and Prince Charles giving him a state reception.

I cannot imagine that either would be thrilled to meet him, but I am sure that the Queen is far too polite to bring up the time when Trump stood up for the paparazzi taking nude photos of her granddaughter in law. 

 

 

I  respond on page one of this thread.

Yes. I understand Trump encouraging the UK  jump from the frying  pan into the  fire.

It suits  his  previous declarations  of extending his  megalomaniacal  suppression of international trade  in favor of the US regardless of the principle content purposes of that trade. 

With or  without  a "deal"  with  the EU  the UK will  be vulnerable at point of exit.

Trump is  no agent of  compassion.

The UK is  quite possibly and probably  about  to suffer an extended  period of   austerity. Should that occur  it  will  not see the departure  of  social undesirables but rather the rise of them to the  sad  demise of the UK.

In the  not too far future the "Commonwealth"  will disintegrate.

Those  parts of the UK that  do not  absent themselves  from  being  the   subserviant new  psuedo  state of the US will  have to fight  hard ! As  history  shows  they  can! Even unconventionally.

The Brexit  issue  has been  made subject  to  the  "English " principles rather than the UK.

It is the "united" word in the issue  that is the core problem.

There  has  never  been  unity , only  compromise.

It is that  factor  that  even if  or  when Brexit is  achieved  that  the reality of that will  surface.

And that is  pertinent to the current position the US  via Trump is assuming.

Post destruction the USSR saw an immediate  intended advancement of  US policy even  via the UN.

Sadly  for the US  it has  also seen growing resentment to the application of that policy.

Whether it  be  by accident  or  design Trump is  likely  to  be the historical agent in a turning point of  global  history that has the potential  to  be  far less  than of  humanitarian expectations.

Reds  under the  beds?

The yellow peril?

Beware  of Uncle  Sam !

Uncle  Sam is  not  your   Uncle !

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

No wonder he slings mud back when there is so much crap being scraped up and thrown at him by his enemies.

A small bit of effort is needed to make a better acquaintance with reality here. Before Trump went on the campaign trail no one gave a damn about of him, they wouldn't waste the time of day throwing crap at him, he was just a sad crooked business man with serious personality disorders (Narcissism, and Sociopathy for a start). He initiates the mud slinging because he is fundamentally insecure, he is pathetically desperate to be seem as classy, whereas he has added a whole new depth of meaning to the word vulgar.

 

All the same he would happily shaft the UK on trade if he got half a chance. Sadly the UK still has a significant number of "Leaders" ready to drop their pants for him.

Trump is NOT a global citizen. He virtually urinates on all other nations whenever he gets the  chance. Unfortunately, that seems to appeal the general US mentality and this Enemy of the World will probably be elected again. 

It doesn't really. He only has about a 40 percent level of support. But because of the structure of the US electoral college yes he can be reelected even with minority support.

 

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

It doesn't really. He only has about a 40 percent level of support. But because of the structure of the US electoral college yes he can be reelected even with minority support.

 

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True enough. I'd forgotten about that terrible system. It was the same one that put the heinous Bush and Cheney team back in the White House for 4 more (supposedly) legitimate years with a 2nd term, wasn't it? There were some irregularities and suspicious circumstances with that election, too though, from what I recall -- very suspicious stuff going on, wasn't there? Jeb Bush involved in determining the outcome and other BS.  

At first Trump should shut up as he has not a glue of an idea. An idiot , better care about his US first things. And he will see where it ends up!

And sure he will dictate the Brits his US-GB deal. Good luck Brits, leave the EU and run into the arms of this childish president!

4 hours ago, vogie said:

Maybe if Mrs May had listened to him she would still be in employment.

So you agree and would answer with YES...? 

Oh dear, poor Brits.... I think it comes because of Splendid Isolation.... 

12 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

I too agree with him - but he shouldn't be involving himself in uk politics.

 

Quite apart from anything else, the Brit. electorate tend to get annoyed when foreign powers try to influence them by supporting one side or the other!

 

e.g. Obama intervening pre-referendum ("back of the queue" etc.) only annoyed a large portion of the electorate.

 

 True, but I bet most of the remainers agreed with Obama’s threat to put the U.K. to the back of the queue. Now of course they are outraged that D.Trump has intimated that the U.K will go to the front of the queue.

 I wonder are they anti Trump,or are the anti British.

10 hours ago, meinphuket said:

As one of the post WWII European generation, we were taught to be respectful of the US, our ally. Trump is hell bent on destroying all that goodwill, and as far as I am concerned he already has, so to he** with him, and impeach this lying megalomaniac !

 

 Well most of us do respect our U.S Allies, and that also means respecting their democratic choice in a President. Especially when he is representing and respecting all those Americans who died on D-Day.

 Unfortunately the Flakies in London are only to willing to protest against his visit, unlike their inaction when the King of Saudi Arabia or the President of China visited our country.

8 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Why nobody reads anything about the fundation of this "divorse bill"? It is nothing more as all the UK committed itsself to when still member, inclusive a lot of money going back to projects in the UK, payments of salaries and pensions ( Nigel ! = the money YOU want ), and of course work done for ALL members like Eur Medicine Agency, EFSA, RASFF, all things the UK will stand alone for after a Brexit.

Second: the total YEAR budget of the EU =  €165.8 billion You think, they need that UK contribution ?

 

I’m glad you said “lots of Money going back to the U.K” unfortunately lots of our money sent to Brussels was spent on encouraging large companies to close factories in this country, and transfer the companies and jobs to Europe. Not that remainers are slightly concerned, if it din’t effect them directly, after all many of them are very selfish people.

10 hours ago, bomber said:

i bought the sun nearly everyday for 25-30 years,wouldnt want it delivered free through my letter box now

Thanks for sharing, how you received your basic education,it explains a great deal.

2 minutes ago, Thairealist said:

Thanks for sharing, how you received your basic education,it explains a great deal.

yep when i was young and daft i may even of voted leave,how did you find the beano

8 hours ago, bomber said:

its managed well enough for many years,they may need to pay in in the future,who knows,iam sure £9 billion shared between 26 isnt a great amount,same same £9 billion is very little per citizen of the UK,somebody worked it out a while back on here it was cat arse,expats £15k plus out of pocket and counting would cry at the amount ???? hehe

 

9 Billion shared between 26. Where do you get the 26 from?

 Try thinking 9 Billion shared between 3 or 4 countries.

2 hours ago, Thairealist said:

 

I’m glad you said “lots of Money going back to the U.K” unfortunately lots of our money sent to Brussels was spent on encouraging large companies to close factories in this country, and transfer the companies and jobs to Europe. Not that remainers are slightly concerned, if it din’t effect them directly, after all many of them are very selfish people.

proof

1 minute ago, Thairealist said:

 

9 Billion shared between 26. Where do you get the 26 from?

 Try thinking 9 Billion shared between 3 or 4 countries.

the smaller ones may or may not have to make up the 9 billion,i doubt it though as brexit wont happen.haha

A new state for US...

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-britain-business/lets-deepen-economic-ties-britains-may-tells-trump-idUSKCN1T42SF

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-britain-gifts/uks-may-reminds-trump-of-transatlantic-ties-with-churchill-era-gift-idUSKCN1T42SN

What i think is when UK leaves it will be exposed to other countries like China, USA within EU you had protection yes you paid inside the EU but you had guarantee, what is your guarantee when you leave EU? What will happen with companies who is going back to EU who you think they will replace? Mostly the Chinese and if you like them suit yourself. I think also that it will affect more UK than vice versa but you followed that guy Nigel so he shall lead you, on other side i am feel sad for those who vote to stay in because they made right decision, and those who dream that EU will fall apart they just dont want admit that they are making mistake for leaving EU. 

21 hours ago, Basil B said:

£39.5 billion is peanuts to the EU, do you really think they care? he is just preaching to the narrow minded Sun readers.

 

Actually, yes, they do care. Otherwise they'd have said piss-off at the end of March.

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It doesn't really. He only has about a 40 percent level of support. But because of the structure of the US electoral college yes he can be reelected even with minority support.

 

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Isn't that structure designed to ensure all states are represented rather than just a simple majority?

 

Like the UK's representative democracy tries to ensure fair representation at Westminster based on constituencies. 

 

Don't most first world democracies operate some form of representative rather than absolute democracy and electoral procedure?

42 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Isn't that structure designed to ensure all states are represented rather than just a simple majority?

 

Like the UK's representative democracy tries to ensure fair representation at Westminster based on constituencies. 

 

Don't most first world democracies operate some form of representative rather than absolute democracy and electoral procedure?

"Like the UK's representative democracy tries to ensure fair representation at Westminster based on constituencies."

 

This only works when MPs represent their constituencies.  What's the point when they are quite happy to ignore the opinion of their constituents?

43 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

"Like the UK's representative democracy tries to ensure fair representation at Westminster based on constituencies."

 

This only works when MPs represent their constituencies.  What's the point when they are quite happy to ignore the opinion of their constituents?

So which opinions of which constituents are being ignored?

On 6/3/2019 at 6:52 AM, petermik said:

 I happen to agree with him......

Trump is still an idiot. your agreeing or not agreeing with him does not change the status of his idiocy. He is a clever idiot, 

3 hours ago, jm91 said:

Trump is still an idiot. your agreeing or not agreeing with him does not change the status of his idiocy. He is a clever idiot, 

No - he's still giving the UK good advice.
He's still POTUS and probably will be for his next term too.