Popular Post webfact Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 Trump administration loses bid to lift bar on funds for border wall FILE PHOTO: President Donald Trump looks at his veto of the congressional resolution to end his emergency declaration to get funds for a border wall after signing it during a ceremony in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, U.S., March 15, 2019. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst (Reuters) - A federal appeals court on Wednesday refused to lift an injunction barring the Trump administration from using $2.5 billion intended for the fight against illegal narcotics to build a wall along the southern U.S. border with Mexico. The ruling was another setback in President Donald Trump's effort to construct a border wall, one of his top promises in the 2016 presidential campaign. He pledged at the time that Mexico would pay for it. "Congress did not appropriate money to build the border barriers defendants seek to build here," a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in a 2-1 ruling. "Congress presumably decided such construction at this time was not in the public interest. ... It is not for us to reach a different conclusion," the panel said. Trump has been unsuccessful in persuading Congress to fund the wall. In February, the president declared a national emergency, saying that would entitle the administration to reprogram $6.7 billion in funds Congress had allocated for other purposes to build the wall. Several states, including California, and organizations, including the Sierra Club and the Southern Border Communities Coalition, challenged the administration decision in two lawsuits. A U.S. District Court judge in California ruled last Friday that the Trump administration's proposal to build the border wall with money appropriated for the Defense Department to use in the fight against illegal drugs was unlawful. The judge issued an injunction barring use of the funds for a border wall. The Trump administration appealed the decision on Saturday and asked that the injunction barring use of the reprogrammed funds be stayed pending the outcome of its appeal of the court decision. But the three-judge panel rejected that request on Wednesday. "We conclude that the public interest weighs forcefully against issuing a stay," the panel said. "The Constitution assigns to Congress the power of the purse. Under the Appropriations Clause, it is Congress that is to make decisions regarding how to spend taxpayer dollars." (Reporting by David Alexander in Washington; Editing by Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-04 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 Sorry Donald you aren’t a dictator you will have to be a statesman or fail 3 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Let's go find another partisan judge to thwart the elected POTUS. It won't stop him and just irritates neutrals who see it for what it is (a la Thailand style). Edited July 4, 2019 by BobBKK 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lannarebirth Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Let's go find another partisan judge to thwart the elected POTUS. It won't stop him and just irritates neutrals who see it for what it is (a la Thailand style). Actually Congress thwarted him and the court upheld that, which was a pretty obvious conclusion. 6 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Let's go find another partisan judge to thwart the elected POTUS. It won't stop him and just irritates neutrals who see it for what it is (a la Thailand style). Ahhh bob you do know that congress has to approve that kind of stuff rite?donald tryed an end around and failed he needs to build the votes or fail 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 "The Constitution assigns to Congress the power of the purse. Under the Appropriations Clause, it is Congress that is to make decisions regarding how to spend taxpayer dollars." Congress spent more than 40 million dollars attempting to overturn the 2016 election. They are still not giving up their Russia! One disgruntled Federal Judge has more authority than The President of the United States. Most people are aware by now that the 9th Circuit Court, located on the West Coast is made up of Obama appointees... These judges cannot be trusted to set politics aside in their unelected offices...this lone judge political power tripping situation needs to be revised... 3 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post attrayant Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said: Congress spent more than 40 million dollars attempting to overturn the 2016 election. That money was spent by the DOJ, not congress. 1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said: One disgruntled Federal Judge has more authority than The President of the United States. In other words, nobody is above the law. I'm glad you agree with that. 1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said: Most people are aware by now that the 9th Circuit Court, located on the West Coast is made up of Obama appointees. The order was signed by Judges Richard Clifton, appointed by President George W. Bush, and Michelle Friedland, an Obama appointee. 1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said: These judges cannot be trusted to set politics aside in their unelected offices...this lone judge political power tripping situation needs to be revised... Which "lone judge" are you talking about? 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Katipo Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 The wall is a stupid idea that won't stop people smuggling or illegal immigrants getting to the US. It'll also have no affect on the 'war on drugs'. As such it's a complete waste of time. Now, if the US stopped destabilising countries in the region, that might make a difference, as you're turning off the tap at the source. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petemoss Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 The Lord loves a tier! When will he get the message, "There is no wall there won't be a wall and neither Mexico nor the US are paying for it"? Knock, knock, is anybody at home? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post expatfromwyoming Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 As a strong proponent of border security I see the only mitigating factor in nothing getting done is Mr Trump himself. He is continually in a fit of pique and blames all but himself. He has instituted a long string of desperate policy ideas that he thought would prevent migrants from entering the United States, and each has failed. To be a successful POTUS you need to build consensus and unanimity not division. He has yet to discover that the president of the United States doesn’t have the unilateral power he imagined. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike1938 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Tug said: Sorry Donald you aren’t a dictator you will have to be a statesman or fail He is failing because he is far from a statesman. Only other dictators and wannabes like him are his friends. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 hours ago, lannarebirth said: Actually Congress thwarted him and the court upheld that, which was a pretty obvious conclusion. Yup because they are...? courts in US are partisan from Supreme down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, Spike1938 said: He is failing because he is far from a statesman. Only other dictators and wannabes like him are his friends. We will see 2020 won't we? it's not a forgone conclusion but he is only President because of Dems utter failures (and should not be I grant you... but a huge slice of America, and the world, do not want pc libralism and choose the obnoxious opposite to make that stand). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatfromwyoming Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBKK said: We will see 2020 won't we? it's not a forgone conclusion but he is only President because of Dems utter failures (and should not be I grant you... but a huge slice of America, and the world, do not want pc libralism and choose the obnoxious opposite to make that stand). One can never brush aside the inherent stupidity of people when it comes to "their" president. But that is not restricted to the US it seems to be a global phenomena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, expatfromwyoming said: One can never brush aside the inherent stupidity of people when it comes to "their" president. But that is not restricted to the US it seems to be a global phenomena Americans are stupid now are they? of course they are if they don't follow YOUR way. I really hope whoever wins the Dem nomination stands up and say's "hey, America, you are STUPID" it worked well for HIllary's "deplorable's" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatfromwyoming Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBKK said: Americans are stupid now are they? of course they are if they don't follow YOUR way. I really hope whoever wins the Dem nomination stands up and say's "hey, America, you are STUPID" it worked well for HIllary's "deplorable's" I would suggest with much reverence you read my post again and explain to me your comprehension of what I said and attempt to justify your pique. By the way I still am a registered Republican and left US when Obama became president in 2008- choosing in 2016 not to live under Trump either. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, expatfromwyoming said: I would suggest with much reverence you read my post again and explain to me your comprehension of what I said and attempt to justify your pique. By the way I still am a registered Republican and left US when Obama became president in 2008- choosing in 2016 not to live under Trump either. Your suggestion was that people might make a stupid choice. As my post was about 2020 one might reasonably draw the conclusion you were referring to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 "Are we getting tired of losing" ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Puchaiyank said: "The Constitution assigns to Congress the power of the purse. Under the Appropriations Clause, it is Congress that is to make decisions regarding how to spend taxpayer dollars." Congress spent more than 40 million dollars attempting to overturn the 2016 election. They are still not giving up their Russia! One disgruntled Federal Judge has more authority than The President of the United States. Most people are aware by now that the 9th Circuit Court, located on the West Coast is made up of Obama appointees... These judges cannot be trusted to set politics aside in their unelected offices...this lone judge political power tripping situation needs to be revised... "....has more authority than The President of the United States." Setting the bar kinda low there, with the current occupant of the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundooman Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Happy Birthday to the US of A. You must be a very proud nation today, although you have my sincerest condolences about 'you know who' (potus), - and I wish you all the very best in your efforts to rid yourself of this vermin you appear to have elected as the presidential family of the United States, (may we call them "PFOTUS")? One point I feel I must make..... If Mr. super fantastic President, (To some, Mr God almighty, (ahem,) declared an EMERGENCY', (and we all know what the word means, don't we - nudge,nudge), in February and that it is now the 4th July, (some 4.5 months along the way), …………………….would someone please explain to me what the 'emergency' actually is/was/will be/? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1Anyway, Mexico will fund it.... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Swagman Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 He came through Mae Rim and a sculptor captured his image...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 hours ago, BobBKK said: Yup because they are...? courts in US are partisan from Supreme down. Partisan to ....citizens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyonesock Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Katipo said: The wall is a stupid idea that won't stop people smuggling or illegal immigrants getting to the US. It'll also have no affect on the 'war on drugs'. As such it's a complete waste of time. Now, if the US stopped destabilising countries in the region, that might make a difference, as you're turning off the tap at the source. really?....well what about the Berlin Wall or the wall Hungary have put up to keep illegals out or the Great Wall of China that kept the Mongols out or the wall in Israel....all of them are or have been extremely successful in maintaining the security of the country.....the fact is that the USA and most other Western countries are controlled by the enemies of the West who wish to see the end of the majority of white populations in their own lands and what is presented as democracy is just a puppet show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Morch said: "....has more authority than The President of the United States." Setting the bar kinda low there, with the current occupant of the White House. Yet an indicator of the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Dumbastheycome said: Partisan to ....citizens? Partisan to the rule of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: Partisan to the rule of law. "There's battle lines being drawn, Nobody's right if everybody's wrong -- Stephen Stills" Better line from those lyrics might be "Everybody look whats going down " ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Dumbastheycome said: "There's battle lines being drawn, Nobody's right if everybody's wrong -- Stephen Stills" Better line from those lyrics might be "Everybody look whats going down " ! There are"none so blind as those who will not see". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, lannarebirth said: There are"none so blind as those who will not see". Perhaps that old quotation need be amended? There are none so carefully blinded as those who are made not see". ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatfromwyoming Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 hours ago, BobBKK said: Your suggestion was that people might make a stupid choice. As my post was about 2020 one might reasonably draw the conclusion you were referring to that. And????- would you care to elucidate the readers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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