Remove broken stop valve

[Crossy]

Don't sell the house just yet.

 

If the pipe in the wall will move against something solid you should be able to get a new bit of pipe in, the glue provides great lubrication before it sets.

 

Whatever you end up with likely won't look pretty, but it's on display in a locked cupboard with a tiny door.

 

[grollies]

19 hours ago, wayned said:

The last time it happened to me  I took a hacksaw blade and made a small grove in the top and bottom of the piece left in the pipe.  Not too deep so that it cut into the threads.  I then ground down a piece of metal bar to fit into and between the groves on each side.  I tapped it in gently and then twisted the piece out wit a pair of pliers.

.....is the correct answer.....

[CGW]

I have had similar problem caused by cheap fittings and I believe the high PH of the water.

I used a file as an "ezy-out" found a file that would fit tightly into remains of thread, gently tap home then slowly start it moving with a suitable wrench.

[ThePioneer]

Here we are again.

 

So far most went well with replacing the broken valves.

 

Now I have only 1 issue.

 

The one where I had to replace the piece of pipe with the fitting, when I screw in the valve the connection always ends up at the wrong side.

 

I have already tried more Teflon tape, and then even more Teflon tape, but it always ends up at the same wrong side.

 

Any tips how to get around this?

[bankruatsteve]

11 minutes ago, ThePioneer said:

Here we are again.

 

So far most went well with replacing the broken valves.

 

Now I have only 1 issue.

 

The one where I had to replace the piece of pipe with the fitting, when I screw in the valve the connection always ends up at the wrong side.

 

I have already tried more Teflon tape, and then even more Teflon tape, but it always ends up at the same wrong side.

 

Any tips how to get around this?

More tape.  Be sure to build it up at the back of the threads.  Screw in until snug then stop where you want it.

[Crossy]

11 minutes ago, ThePioneer said:

when I screw in the valve the connection always ends up at the wrong side.

 

Welcome to my world! Every ruddy time ????

 

I just wind on tape but concentrate it away from the end of the thread so it makes a good seal before everything graunches up. Then tighten so the outlet is in the right position and it doesn't leak. If it leaks there's usually a whole turn available to sort the leak. 

[ThePioneer]

HOUSE FOR SALE

 

Started up the pump, no leaks.

 

Pump keeps starting up.

 

After a while I see water coming from under the wall tiles at the backend of the cabinet,

 

I guess that mean breaking out the wall

Edited August 12, 2019 by ThePioneer

[bankruatsteve]

Yah, that's about the only way.  Can you go in from the other side of the wall?  Much easier to patch up than from the bathroom side.

[ThePioneer]

Just now, bankruatsteve said:

Yah, that's about the only way.  Can you go in from the other side of the wall?  Much easier to patch up than from the bathroom side.

Backside is my bedroom. Sure more space over there, but I don't think a wall can ever be repaired that it's invisible, so would be better to have that covered by the cabinet.

[bankruatsteve]

20 minutes ago, ThePioneer said:

I don't think a wall can ever be repaired that it's invisible,

You might be surprised.  The caveat is getting paint to match.  In any case, good luck.

Edited August 12, 2019 by bankruatsteve

[wayned]

1 hour ago, ThePioneer said:

when I screw in the valve the connection always ends up at the wrong side.

If it's has a flange butting up against a flange, I put a fat "O" ring on the male side and as you tighten it you compress the "O" ring as you adjust it to the correct position, never had a leak doing it this way.  If there isn't a flange it's lots of tape!

[ThePioneer]

On 8/12/2019 at 1:51 PM, bankruatsteve said:

You might be surprised.  The caveat is getting paint to match.  In any case, good luck.

Paint will not be the problem as i still have the original paint.

 

I'm considering my options currently.

 

Since I have cavity walls i assume the tubes will be in the cavity, so cutting out a hole at the right location in the bedroom wall may give me access.

 

For those that have experience with this kind of job, would it be possible with a large grinder to cut out a square or rectangle hole in the wall and take it out as 1 piece, or is that something I can forget?

 

Making the hole and repairing the pipe I think I will be capable of, but brick laying and rendering the wall is completely beyond me.

 

So if I can take out the wall cutting as 1 piece, I assume I can just slip it in again, and have only to render the cuttings.

 

You think that is an option?

Edited August 13, 2019 by ThePioneer

[bankruatsteve]

Inside walls have cavity?  Well, that should make it easier.  You could try taking out in one piece but I wouldn't worry about it.  The masonry guys are pretty good at patching things up.  Just be sure to let the render dry before you re-paint.

 

I would drill a few holes first - just to make sure everything is what you expect and you are in the right place.  (IE: before going in with a large grinder.)

Edited August 13, 2019 by bankruatsteve

[wayned]

9 hours ago, ThePioneer said:

Since I have cavity walls i assume the tubes will be in the cavity,

TIT, don'tassume anything is like it's supposed to be elsewhere!

[ThePioneer]

Had a local " chang " come around to have a look.

 

Cutting the hole, fix the pipe and close again, he wanted 4000 Baht.

 

You think a fair price for this kind of job?

[bankruatsteve]

35 minutes ago, ThePioneer said:

Had a local " chang " come around to have a look.

 

Cutting the hole, fix the pipe and close again, he wanted 4000 Baht.

 

You think a fair price for this kind of job?

Way way too much.  I'm guessing it would take less than a day.  B1000 max.

[ThePioneer]

9 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said:

Way way too much.  I'm guessing it would take less than a day.  B1000 max.

 

That would also be my idea, although I have no experience in this.

 

I'm sure I could cut the hole and fix the pipe myself in less than 1 day, but closing the hole again is my biggest problem.

 

And that is my fear, that if i do the fix myself, the hole will be there forever, and moving the bed in front of it is no option haha

 

So anyone reading this, and who know someone who could do it for a fair price, give me a shout.

 

I'm 15 Km east of Pattaya

Edited August 14, 2019 by ThePioneer

[bankruatsteve]

2 minutes ago, ThePioneer said:

 

That would also be my idea, although I have no experience in this.

 

I'm sure I could cut the hole and fix the pipe myself in less than 1 day, but closing the hole again is my biggest problem.

 

And that is my fear, that if i do the fix myself, the hole will be there forever, and moving the bed in front of it is no option haha

 

So anyone reading this, and who know someone who could do it for a fair price, give me a shout.

 

I'm 15 Km east of Pattaya

Cut the hole and fix the pipe.  You shouldn't have any problem finding someone competent to patch it up.  I'm guessing close to 100% of Thai labor have masonry experience.  A friend of a friend will do it for B500 or less.

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