I'm a condo owner - My experience signing up for TM30 online (success in BKK) - Now Pattaya

[Sexbomb]

Sorry to start a separate thread but some threads can get cluttered sometimes and this might be helpful for others in similar situation.

 

I have signed up for TM30 online via the website and my story about that you can find in below mentioned thread.

 

Now, I am about to sign up for my condo in Pattaya which I also own and wanted to give you guys a real-time update on how thing go as they are different offices and, since I succeeded in my first try with my Bangkok condo, I will do exactly the same procedure, with exactly the same documents, as my previous registration.

 

So I have gathered all documents (files) and they are all well under 1MB namely:

- Chanote (front and backside)

- Copy of my passport (obviously picture side)

- The contract for the purchase registered with the Land Office in Pattaya.

 

I am using the latest version of Chrome which I also did for my last registration.

 

I tried to fill out the form today which went fine until we hit the section of the various districts, sub-districts, etc.

 

First, there came out some Thai jibberish when typing so deleted and tried again and now I can't enter a single letter in those boxes and once I updated the whole form everything entered disappeared but the problem with those boxes disappeared.

 

Status on Registration and Filling out the online form: FAIL

 

I will try again later or tomorrow.

 

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[scubascuba3]

Immigration will say it's your fault

[berybert]

Why bother with the 2nd condo ?

Really seems pointless. you are just making work for yourself. Unless you rent it out there doesn't seem reason to register it. 

[Sexbomb]

7 minutes ago, berybert said:

Why bother with the 2nd condo ?

Really seems pointless. you are just making work for yourself. Unless you rent it out there doesn't seem reason to register it. 

So if I spend a weekend in Pattaya away from my condo in BKK in which I have already reported myself (TM30), you are saying that I do not need to report when arriving in my condo Pattaya in contradiction to other reports?

 

Do you have any credible source for that claim? 

 

In addition, yes, the condo in Pattaya will be rented out now and then but I do all this <deleted> to cover my own bases.

 

If I report accordingly, no matter how stupid and annoying these rules are and non unilateral across the country, if I do things by the book I will hopefully avoid any problems when making an extension with an IO officer that has a bad hair day, a nagging wife, and wants to take that frustration out on someone sitting across the desk.

 

The topic is not WHY I am registering my second condo in Pattaya (and there will be more) it is my experience doing so that I share with others and is hopefully helpful to others as well.

 

Hence me devoting time to the same.

[thaitero]

I tried (pattaya condo-owner) this about 6 months ago and never received password.

One day checked my status with my passportnumber and it was not approved.

 

If i remember right, i sent only copy of blue book ( form also asked some number from this book that time ?) and passport and thought if they want something they ask but never got any communication from whoever handles these online requests in Pattaya..

As far as i know form has changed since that time so interesting to see when it is worth of another try..

[Sexbomb]

2 minutes ago, thaitero said:

I tried (pattaya condo-owner) this about 6 months ago and never received password.

One day checked my status with my passportnumber and it was not approved.

 

If i remember right, i sent only copy of blue book ( form also asked some number from this book that time ?) and passport and thought if they want something they ask but never got any communication from whoever handles these online requests in Pattaya..

As far as i know form has changed since that time so interesting to see when it is worth of another try..

Short answer to that is that they a) do not communicate but only approve or reject and b) you did not submit the necessary documents mentioned in my initial post.

 

Blue book not necessary to attach.

[gunderhill]

1 hour ago, Sexbomb said:

if I do things by the book I will hopefully avoid any problems when making an extension with an IO officer that has a bad hair day, a nagging wife, and wants to take that frustration out on someone sitting across the desk.

I really  would NOT bank  on  that.

[Sexbomb]

1 minute ago, gunderhill said:

I really  would NOT bank  on  that.

As with anything in Thailand, you can't bank on anything but if you drag it to the lengths that I am trying to do, what could they possibly remark on then?

 

And now I am talking about realistic remarks.

 

They can obviously not say that I haven't filed a TM30 every time I leave for Pattaya and doing the same when I go back to my condo in Bangkok.

 

So what would you not "bank on" in that scenario if I may ask?

 

 

[gunderhill]

23 minutes ago, Sexbomb said:

As with anything in Thailand, you can't bank on anything but if you drag it to the lengths that I am trying to do, what could they possibly remark on then?

 

And now I am talking about realistic remarks.

 

They can obviously not say that I haven't filed a TM30 every time I leave for Pattaya and doing the same when I go back to my condo in Bangkok.

 

So what would you not "bank on" in that scenario if I may ask?

 

 

After years of doing marriage extension using the same photos albeit re taken each year one year got told sign at front of  the house was "made by us"  and  not accepted another of the bedroom didn't  include all of one piece of furniture as you could  not physically get it  all in the photo. Told on separate  days ie day 1 had to drive back to retake  photo,  it then passed the next day except  next day anther photo failed, didnt mention that the day before  though, The  final things is this regardless  of any rules "its the IO  officers  decision" and they can ask you for "anything"

Rules  irrelevant they can ignore or make it  up.

As for "that scenario"  they can make up any number of bizarre and rubbish reasons, used the wrong  colour  ink etc  trivial  rubbish like that.

Had a  friend whos e now left, owned 70+  condos, did  the whole thing BY THE  BOOK 100% legit, taxes, not working himself, got audited and they still managed to squeeze  money out of him, he used  Tileke and Gibbins for accountancy  with the rooms right from day one, cost  him a  fortune he  really did  follow every rule, checked double checked triple  checked FLUENT Thai speaker and writer. Still got screwed.

[gunderhill]

26 minutes ago, Sexbomb said:

And now I am talking about realistic remarks.

Better to think "unrealistic" because you won't  believe what nonsense the Thais  can spout.

[Sexbomb]

Just now, gunderhill said:

After years of doing marriage extension using the same photos albeit re taken each year one year got told sign at front of  the house was "made by us"  and  not accepted another of the bedroom didn't  include all of one piece of furniture as you could  not physically get it  all in the photo. Told on separate  days ie day 1 had to drive back to retake  photo,  it then passed the next day except  next day anther photo failed, didnt mention that the day before  though, The  final things is this regardless  of any rules "its the IO  officers  decision" and they can ask you for "anything"

Rules  irrelevant they can ignore or make it  up.

As for "that scenario"  they can make up any number of bizarre and rubbish reasons, used the wrong  colour  ink etc  trivial  rubbish like that.

Can't see that it pertains to what anything in this thread.

 

Reporting a TM30 online, once you have successfully signed up, are narrowed down to "hey, I am here now" and not submitting more stuff than you already have.

 

I share your frustration with how you got treated but I can see how much leverage there were in your situation to give you the absolute idiotic runaround of which I am not surprised to hear.

 

This is reporting online.

 

The process is very clear.

 

You attach what you need to attach.

 

You do not hand over documents to any IO out in the bush in person.

 

You are comparing apples and oranges.

 

For clarity, I absolutely loath all these new rules, regulations, old ones all of a sudden enforced, different offices having different requirements and even down to individual IO level.

 

I absolutely hate all this and the intelligence level of all these things, considering people are fleeing the country as they have had enough and tourists find their way to other countries for various reasons.

 

So trust me, I hate every second of all this nonsense but let us stick to the TM30 and not digress from the subject at hand.

[gunderhill]

Just now, Sexbomb said:

Can't see that it pertains to what anything in this thread.

 

Reporting a TM30 online, once you have successfully signed up, are narrowed down to "hey, I am here now" and not submitting more stuff than you already have.

 

I share your frustration with how you got treated but I can see how much leverage there were in your situation to give you the absolute idiotic runaround of which I am not surprised to hear.

 

This is reporting online.

 

The process is very clear.

 

You attach what you need to attach.

 

You do not hand over documents to any IO out in the bush in person.

 

You are comparing apples and oranges.

 

For clarity, I absolutely loath all these new rules, regulations, old ones all of a sudden enforced, different offices having different requirements and even down to individual IO level.

 

I absolutely hate all this and the intelligence level of all these things, considering people are fleeing the country as they have had enough and tourists find their way to other countries for various reasons.

 

So trust me, I hate every second of all this nonsense but let us stick to the TM30 and not digress from the subject at hand.

I  know what your'e  saying but just wait, sometime you'll see something even with online reporting that blows  your  mind.

[Sexbomb]

1 minute ago, gunderhill said:

Better to think "unrealistic" because you won't  believe what nonsense the Thais  can spout.

I have lived in Thailand for many years and on/off.

 

I have had companies in Thailand for several years and not the usual restaurants, bars and tourism stuff.

 

I own real estate in Thailand since the beginning of the year 2000.

 

I know all about pulling rabbits out of their hats at their whim.

 

But again, that is not what this thread is about.

[Sexbomb]

Just now, gunderhill said:

I  know what your'e  saying but just wait, sometime you'll see something even with online reporting that blows  your  mind.

Of that I am almost certain and I already have experienced errors that should not be because the registration form is something that you could have put up in a day.

 

What got blown into a thousand pieces was my eyes looking at the design of the website and form and I felt like Dr Who traveling back into time to 1995 where people were hammering out coding for HTML........

[gunderhill]

4 minutes ago, Sexbomb said:

I have lived in Thailand for many years and on/off.

 

I have had companies in Thailand for several years and not the usual restaurants, bars and tourism stuff.

 

I own real estate in Thailand since the beginning of the year 2000.

 

I know all about pulling rabbits out of their hats at their whim.

 

But again, that is not what this thread is about.

Got  plenty of real estate here also 8 condos alone in Bangkok, leave it  all to the Wife to  deal with, I expect total bs at  all  times, you think you've got everything  covered then they'll  just move or re invent  the goal posts.

Wife  deals  daily  now with TM30  not  only for  our rooms but MANY customers, its a  freakin nightmare, shes  sick to death of it is  spending hours and hours on it, had a  shouting match with head  woman at  immigration who insisted it WORKS, when many of her co agent friends have exactly the same issues, she registered  the rooms and got  only one passed 2  months ago, others heard  nothing,  she  even went to a meeting about it  with local police and immigration.

Shes  sending off by post tm30 forms and  not getting replies 6+weeks already and customers want to travel and don't know what to do as the first one still hasn't been approved, she's  been  told by one officer 1500  baht will get her a  password nudge  wink. Spent days at CW  immigration number about 600 in the queue etc.

TM30 if they want to find something wrong, they will, online or up country.

[Sexbomb]

Just now, gunderhill said:

Got  plenty of real estate here also 8 condos alone in Bangkok, leave it  all to the Wife to  deal with, I expect total bs at  all  times, you think you've got everything  covered then they'll  just move or re invent  the goal posts.

TM30 if they want to find something wrong, they will, online or up country.

There is a danger to leaving everything to "the wife", "the girlfriend" and so on which is quite obvious.

 

I am generalizing so don't take it personally but I rather learn myself and do it myself instead of being depending on others.

 

I know people living in Thailand for many years and they have no clue on how to do anything except pay a bill at 7/11.

 

But I will stay on my path and do what I can do to keep my back in the clear.

 

Can they pull a rabbit out of the hat? I am sure they can.

 

Can I minimize the risk of them pulling out that rabbit? I sure can.

[gunderhill]

1 minute ago, Sexbomb said:

I am generalizing so don't take it personally but I rather learn myself and do it myself instead of being depending on others.

Wife very competent I don't want to be "accused"  of  working as  was my friend with 70+  rooms he did nothing except buy them, everything else he paid a Thai to do.

[gunderhill]

3 minutes ago, Sexbomb said:

But I will stay on my path and do what I can do to keep my back in the clear.

Of  course, same here but I "don't bank on it"

[Sexbomb]

Just now, gunderhill said:

Of  course, same here but I "don't bank on it"

Like I said, you can't bank on anything in Thailand but you can do as much as possible to actually keep your back in the clear.

 

Over and out on that topic now.

[Sexbomb]

UPDATE 1:

Managed to sign up using the online form on the web and attaching the four (4) files I mentioned in my initial post in this thread.

 

Got "successful" message and now I will await the confirmation email.

 

There are some reports that after checking online status , which I did a few times in my first registration, they received the user / password soon after even though they had waited a long time to receive it so I will do that the coming days on and off.

[berybert]

3 hours ago, Sexbomb said:

So if I spend a weekend in Pattaya away from my condo in BKK in which I have already reported myself (TM30), you are saying that I do not need to report when arriving in my condo Pattaya in contradiction to other reports?

 

Do you have any credible source for that claim? 

 

In addition, yes, the condo in Pattaya will be rented out now and then but I do all this <deleted> to cover my own bases.

 

If I report accordingly, no matter how stupid and annoying these rules are and non unilateral across the country, if I do things by the book I will hopefully avoid any problems when making an extension with an IO officer that has a bad hair day, a nagging wife, and wants to take that frustration out on someone sitting across the desk.

 

The topic is not WHY I am registering my second condo in Pattaya (and there will be more) it is my experience doing so that I share with others and is hopefully helpful to others as well.

 

Hence me devoting time to the same.

Who would know you have spent the weekend in Pattaya and then gone back to Bangkok ? other than you no one. As long as you report back into your Bangkok condo after spending time either out of the country or elsewhere in Thailand, then there is nothing else to worry about. 

 

[Sexbomb]

17 minutes ago, berybert said:

Who would know you have spent the weekend in Pattaya and then gone back to Bangkok ? other than you no one. As long as you report back into your Bangkok condo after spending time either out of the country or elsewhere in Thailand, then there is nothing else to worry about. 

 

You have an excellent point and I have thought of that obviously.

 

Normally I would tend to agree with you. To h-ll with them.

 

But now I am thinking from a standing point of "doing everything right".

 

Let's say that I would go to Pattaya and check into a hotel with a lady and since they are chasing guest houses now in Pattaya with TM30 reporting, I might get reported.

 

What if they report me and the IO officer during next extension round sees that and say "you did not report that you left / arrived back in Bangkok and we can see that you have been in Pattaya."

 

In the above scenario, which might not be too far fetched in a not too distant future, I could be potentially be denied the extension of the IO officer in have that bad hair day.

 

So why even give them the possibility of giving them any ammunition that they can use against you?

[berybert]

1 hour ago, Sexbomb said:

You have an excellent point and I have thought of that obviously.

 

Normally I would tend to agree with you. To h-ll with them.

 

But now I am thinking from a standing point of "doing everything right".

 

Let's say that I would go to Pattaya and check into a hotel with a lady and since they are chasing guest houses now in Pattaya with TM30 reporting, I might get reported.

 

What if they report me and the IO officer during next extension round sees that and say "you did not report that you left / arrived back in Bangkok and we can see that you have been in Pattaya."

 

In the above scenario, which might not be too far fetched in a not too distant future, I could be potentially be denied the extension of the IO officer in have that bad hair day.

 

So why even give them the possibility of giving them any ammunition that they can use against you?

Check into a guest house with a lady in Pattaya then simply register back in Bangkok the following day.

You do not have to register out, only in.

[Sexbomb]

14 minutes ago, berybert said:

Check into a guest house with a lady in Pattaya then simply register back in Bangkok the following day.

You do not have to register out, only in.

True.

 

It's been a long day so did not think very clear on that one.

 

Anyway, the second registration for the condo in Pattaya will happen anyway and the thread is to update the progress.

[Sexbomb]

Update 2:

Just did a status check online on the website and got a "Waiting for confirmation email" status.

 

No email as of yet and also making sure I check the spam-folder as it went to that very folder the last registration.

[albertik]

Excuse my ignorance but, does the TM 30 online app allow for an attachment  of your required docs?  i.e. passport pics, chanote, and purchase agreement?

[Sexbomb]

6 minutes ago, albertik said:

Excuse my ignorance but, does the TM 30 online app allow for an attachment  of your required docs?  i.e. passport pics, chanote, and purchase agreement?

I personally don't know as of yet.

 

I had to download the APK version of the app (not via Google Play) since I couldn't due to probable geo restrictions which, in itself, does not make any sense.

 

I haven't used it but I am very sure that it is a fully functional app for attachments or it would be rendered useless.

 

Reports say that the app is actually better than the web version but, having said that, the web version is horrible in itself ????

[ReLo]

21 hours ago, Sexbomb said:

So if I spend a weekend in Pattaya away from my condo in BKK in which I have already reported myself (TM30), you are saying that I do not need to report when arriving in my condo Pattaya in contradiction to other reports?

 

Do you have any credible source for that claim? 

 

In addition, yes, the condo in Pattaya will be rented out now and then but I do all this <deleted> to cover my own bases.

 

If I report accordingly, no matter how stupid and annoying these rules are and non unilateral across the country, if I do things by the book I will hopefully avoid any problems when making an extension with an IO officer that has a bad hair day, a nagging wife, and wants to take that frustration out on someone sitting across the desk.

 

The topic is not WHY I am registering my second condo in Pattaya (and there will be more) it is my experience doing so that I share with others and is hopefully helpful to others as well.

 

Hence me devoting time to the same.

 

Hello,

 

Reading all these things about Tm30, I feel like to say thank you for the first time on this forum, because thanks to people like you who report and even over report themselves, people like me who never reported anything after so many years do not need to do it, as I am sure that people like you will keep immigration busy enough with all these stupid reports...

 

Thanks again !

 

[natway09]

My apartment owner (Thai) )where I have stayed for 12 years is not interested in registering at ALL. What do we do, ?

[Sexbomb]

6 minutes ago, ReLo said:

 

Hello,

 

Reading all these things about Tm30, I feel like to say thank you for the first time on this forum, because thanks to people like you who report and even over report themselves, people like me who never reported anything after so many years do not need to do it, as I am sure that people like you will keep immigration busy enough with all these stupid reports...

 

Thanks again !

 

Your irony in your post are a welcome edition by someone who hasn't contributed at all to ThaiVisa or given any helpful information at all on any level.

 

Haters will always be hatin' until the day some parameter changes over night and it hits you personally.

 

Then you read a huge amount of posts crying out but then it is too late.

 

I am merely trying to give a first hand narrative on my online TM30 registration(s) as a condo owner to help others in clear answers how to do it and what to attach to get the fastest possible approval.

 

So, if you don't have anything useful to post in this thread, find another place to hang out and make yourself useful somewhere else.