UK election must not delay Brexit from October 31 - Javid

[snoop1130]

UK election must not delay Brexit from October 31 - Javid

 

Britain's Chancellor of the Exchequer Sajid Javid walks outside Downing Street in London, Britain, September 4, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British finance minister Sajid Javid said on Thursday that the government could strike a renegotiated Brexit deal with Brussels and get it through parliament before Oct. 31, despite the prospect of an election in the coming weeks.

 

“If you have a general election in the interim, that is where the focus will be and there will be people in Brussels rightly thinking who is going to form the next government,” Javid told BBC Radio.

 

“But I am clear that in the time that we have you can continue to have those discussions, you can reach a deal and bring it to parliament,” he said.

 

“Parliament would have sit long, it might have sit all night. It might have sit at weekends, but it is imperative we deliver on out commitment to leave on the 31st of October.”

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-05

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[Bluespunk]

55 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Parliament would have sit long, it might have sit all night. It might have sit at weekends, but it is imperative we deliver on out commitment to leave on the 31st of October.”

Such a shame you and your no deal brexiteer buddies didn’t think about that when you controlled parliament and your no dealers were sabotaging the only current deal on offer.  

 

That time of control has passed and you no longer have the numbers to achieve your aims. 

 

Talk all you want about what must happen, but you don’t call the shots anymore and parliament has you by the short and curlies and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. 

 

May must be laughing herself sick right now. 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Bluespunk

[StreetCowboy]

Sit long, sit hard? I thought parliament was getting sent home?  Their business is done; no deal is off the table.  It’s time for Boris to sit long and hard in Brussels with the EU to come up with a deal that parliament might accept.

 

Now that the Hard Right has been shown to be treacherous back-stabbing obstructionists, he might possibly push through the deal that has already been agreed with the EU

Edited September 5, 2019 by StreetCowboy

[beautifulthailand99]

They're going full Trump now with I hereby command all companies to leave China etc. As much as they pull the leavers they are finding they don't work but not only don't work but blow up their faces. Keep Boris on the spit till well done. They are a government in office but not in power. 

 

Farage alert don't stand your troops down just yet BJ second plan might be to do an off-the-shelf WA and dare parliament to pass it. Why not - then Farage can savage the Tories at the polls I would buy that. 

Edited September 5, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[Scot123]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Such a shame you and your no deal brexiteer buddies didn’t think about that when you controlled parliament and your no dealers were sabotaging the only current deal on offer.  

 

That time of control has passed and you no longer have the numbers to achieve your aims. 

 

Talk all you want about what must happen, but you don’t call the shots anymore and parliament has you by the short and curlies and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. 

 

May must be laughing herself sick right now. 

Do you think so? The treasonous traitors are now sh@ting themselves and the prospect of an election scares them as most lied to their constitutes about supporting the will of the people. The people are angry, very angry. No EU gravy train job awaits them now. Roll on the election. Clear our swamp. 

[Scot123]

2 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

Sit long, sit hard? I thought parliament was getting sent home?  Their business is done; no deal is off the table.  It’s time for Boris to sit long and hard in Brussels with the EU to come up with a deal that parliament might accept.

 

Now that the Hard Right has been shown to be treacherous back-stabbing obstructionists, he might possibly push through the deal that has already been agreed We the EU

Do you think so? We the people do not want a deal, we want out. We are starting to see them panic about an election as they know they are finished, they lied to their constituents and betrayed their party. No EU gravy train job for them. Roll on the election. 

[Bluespunk]

22 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Do you think so? The treasonous traitors are now sh@ting themselves and the prospect of an election scares them as most lied to their constitutes about supporting the will of the people. The people are angry, very angry. No EU gravy train job awaits them now. Roll on the election. Clear our swamp. 

No I don’t think anyone is scared on the side of those who are determined to stop the lunacy of a no deal exit.

 

What they are doing is ensuring no deal cannot happen without parliamentary approval, before an election takes place. 

 

I am, however, enjoying the irony of what is happening to the very right of centre no dealers right now. 

 

As ye sow, so shall ye reap. 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Bluespunk

[Scot123]

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No I don’t think anyone is scared on the side of those who are determined to stop the lunacy of a no deal exit.

 

What I think they are doing is ensuring no deal cannot happen without parliamentary approval before an election takes place. 

 

I am, however, enjoying the irony of what is happening to the far right no dealers right now. 

 

As ye sow, so shall ye reap. 

Far right! Are you for real? Learn the history of the EU and start in 1944 OMG. To love you country and want to have sovereignty is not far right however selling your country out to a foreign power is called treason. I am not far right and neither is over 17 million Brits. OMG. 

[StreetCowboy]

10 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Do you think so? We the people do not want a deal, we want out. We are starting to see them panic about an election as they know they are finished, they lied to their constituents and betrayed their party. No EU gravy train job for them. Roll on the election. 

We which people? We you people, or we other people.  Luckily, we elect parliament to look after our interests on a continuous basis, and our government agreed an exit deal with Europe.  Sadly, that was sabotaged, and now it looks like Brexit will never happen.  Ask Boris how that happened.

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Far right! Are you for real? Learn the history of the EU and start in 1944 OMG. To love you country and want to have sovereignty is not far right however selling your country out to a foreign power is called treason. I am not far right and neither is over 17 million Brits. OMG. 

I know the history and I know what the no dealers are. 

 

I didn't says brexiteers were far right, so don’t try to pin that on my post. 

 

I was referring to the nastier elements of the no deal camp. 

 

However, perhaps that was hyperbole on my part so I will edit my post. 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Bluespunk

[StreetCowboy]

17 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Do you think so? The treasonous traitors are now sh@ting themselves and the prospect of an election scares them as most lied to their constitutes about supporting the will of the people. The people are angry, very angry. No EU gravy train job awaits them now. Roll on the election. Clear our swamp. 

Who within the Government blocked the Brexit deal put towards parliament?  Who is responsible for our continued membership of the EU? Has they put forward any alternative that might be acceptable to parliament? Who governs the country? If not the government?

 

I think that Boris has done us a great service, by making it clear that the Queen appoints a government based on a majority in parliament to govern with the consent of parliament.  So carry on, Boris, put forward a proposal acceptable to parliament.  You stabbed Theresa May in the back when she did so, do you expect any special favours from anyone on that basis?

 

[Scot123]

Just now, StreetCowboy said:

We which people? We you people, or we other people.  Luckily, we elect parliament to look after our interests on a continuous basis, and our government agreed an exit deal with Europe.  Sadly, that was sabotaged, and now it looks like Brexit will never happen.  Ask Boris how that happened.

We the people are the over 17 million who voted to leave the EU. Cameron said if you vote leave and no deal then we leave under world trade rules. We voted to leave and we want to leave. Is that simple enough. Those treasonous MPs were all voted in on the ticket carrying out leave. They lied so please explain who they are representing because it is not the people who voted for them or their party. Watch this space. Its not over by a long shot. 

[StreetCowboy]

1 minute ago, Scot123 said:

We the people are the over 17 million who voted to leave the EU. Cameron said if you vote leave and no deal then we leave under world trade rules. We voted to leave and we want to leave. Is that simple enough. Those treasonous MPs were all voted in on the ticket carrying out leave. They lied so please explain who they are representing because it is not the people who voted for them or their party. Watch this space. Its not over by a long shot. 

So why did your MPs block the Brexit deal? I can understand the opposition doing so.  What about the conservative MPs that voted against the Brexit deal?  Don't blame Remainers for the failure of Brexit - they were not the majority ion parliament.  Blame the Brexiteers who could have seen it through, but thought it was not good enough for themselves personally, despite the party whip.  Who are the traitors?

[Scot123]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I know the history and I know what the no dealers are. 

 

I didn't says brexiteers were far right, so don’t try to pin that on my post. 

 

I was referring to the nastier elements of the no deal camp. 

 

However, perhaps that was hyperbole on my part so I will edit my post. 

You say you know your history then you know all about The Red House Report of 1944??? The seed of the current EU. The thing is thanks to the Internet yesterday's news doesn't become today's chip wrappers. We will leave of that I am 100% sure and become the first of 3 countries who voted to leave actually leave and not keep voting till the EU gets the result it wants. We are leaving lol and most likely under world trade rules. Watch what happens at the election. 

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

You say you know your history then you know all about The Red House Report of 1944??? The seed of the current EU. The thing is thanks to the Internet yesterday's news doesn't become today's chip wrappers. We will leave of that I am 100% sure and become the first of 3 countries who voted to leave actually leave and not keep voting till the EU gets the result it wants. We are leaving lol and most likely under world trade rules. Watch what happens at the election. 

I certainly am lol at the moment.

 

I am laughing at the spectacular collapse of the no dealers strategy. 

 

I am laughing at the bluster of those who cannot grasp they no longer have the ability to dictate how brexit will proceed. 

 

I am laughing at the utter hypocrisy of a pm who expels 21 mps for doing exactly what he and his followers did.

 

I am laughing at those who blame the eu for self inflicted chaos the no dealers have brought to the whole brexit debacle. 

 

May had a deal and they sabotaged it. 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Bluespunk

[Scot123]

4 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

So why did your MPs block the Brexit deal? I can understand the opposition doing so.  What about the conservative MPs that voted against the Brexit deal?  Don't blame Remainers for the failure of Brexit - they were not the majority ion parliament.  Blame the Brexiteers who could have seen it through, but thought it was not good enough for themselves personally, despite the party whip.  Who are the traitors?

Because they were Remainer MP's who lied to their leave constitutes and got elected then went straight back to remainer mode. Their consstituants demanded them to resign but they have no morals. We need new laws in the UK that when you change your mandate you resign and hold a bi election and when you get kicked out your party or leave then there is a bi election called. These MP's know they now stand no chance of re-election now. I personally think they thought Boris would not make good on his threat and call an election. They were wrong. Its going to be a landslide victory for the Brexot party and the leave MP's. The people are very angry. 

[StreetCowboy]

3 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Because they were Remainer MP's who lied to their leave constitutes and got elected then went straight back to remainer mode. Their consstituants demanded them to resign but they have no morals. We need new laws in the UK that when you change your mandate you resign and hold a bi election and when you get kicked out your party or leave then there is a bi election called. These MP's know they now stand no chance of re-election now. I personally think they thought Boris would not make good on his threat and call an election. They were wrong. Its going to be a landslide victory for the Brexot party and the leave MP's. The people are very angry. 

On the contrary; it wa the Brexiteers who stabbed our Prime Minister in the back.  Our Prime Minister negotiated with Europe on good faith, to be betrayed by the hard liners in her her party, who now find themselves powerless in the face of the parliamentary democracy they now seek to undermine.

 

Hoist by their own petard, as I think they say in Europe....

[Loiner]

They are still a Brexit government but being frustrated partly by a bunch of Europhile quislings and traitors. The others are opportunistic power grabbing socialists, who will stop at nothing to usurp the elected govt.
Remainers moaned from losing the referendum and continued moaning for three years. They moaned when Boris took control to prorogue Parliament and called it a coup. Then another of their dirty tricks took the party traitors to take control of the HOC. Now they gloat.
Wait for Boris’s next game play and they’ll be moaning again. They’ll still be moaning and moaning long after we have fully Brexited.


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[StreetCowboy]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

They are still a Brexit government but being frustrated partly by a bunch of Europhile quislings and traitors. The others are opportunistic power grabbing socialists, who will stop at nothing to usurp the elected govt.
Remainers moaned from losing the referendum and continued moaning for three years. They moaned when Boris took control to prorogue Parliament and called it a coup. Then another of their dirty tricks took the party traitors to take control of the HOC. Now they gloat.
Wait for Boris’s next game play and they’ll be moaning again. They’ll still be moaning and moaning long after we have fully Brexited.


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On the contrary - our new 'Brexit' government is led by people who voted against Theresa May's Brexit deal agreed with Europe.  In that case, whom can we trust to get an acceptable deal?  Traitors, or the opposition?  Given that Boris voted against a deal acceptable to the Conservative government, it seems like Hobson's Choice.  Good on you, Boris. Boris the Lad can <deleted> anything

It seems like a stark choice.  

 

 

[StreetCowboy]

37 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I certainly am lol at the moment.

 

I am laughing at the spectacular collapse of the no dealers strategy. 

 

I am laughing at the bluster of those who cannot grasp they no longer have the ability to dictate how brexit will proceed. 

 

I am laughing at the utter hypocrisy of a pm who expels 21 mps for doing exactly what he and his followers did.

 

I am laughing at those who blame the eu for self inflicted chaos the no dealers have brought to the whole brexit debacle. 

 

May had a deal and they sabotaged it. 

You're lucky you're not British.  It's an embarrassment to be a laughing stock on the international stage, and to be looking forward to be being an impoverished laughing stock.  Still, onwards and upwards, stiff upper lip, nobody's fault but our own etc.

 

I can't see a better deal than May's going through, so as I see it, it's May's deal or no Brexit.  That's why we appoint a government.

[Thairealist]

52 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

So why did your MPs block the Brexit deal? I can understand the opposition doing so.  What about the conservative MPs that voted against the Brexit deal?  Don't blame Remainers for the failure of Brexit - they were not the majority ion parliament.  Blame the Brexiteers who could have seen it through, but thought it was not good enough for themselves personally, despite the party whip.  Who are the traitors?

 

I’m sure you do realise that Treacherous May deal, was not to truly leave the E.U. 

 

[StreetCowboy]

1 minute ago, Thairealist said:

 

I’m sure you do realise that Treacherous May deal, was not to truly leave the E.U. 

 

You have to start somewhere, unless you are a Brexiteer.

 

After they sabotaged their party in government, are they closer towards any form of Brexit, or further?

 

Theresa May could have achieved "Brexit" and taken us towards what you might want.  Boris killed that.

Who do you call the traitor?

 

 

[Slip]

As always these days in these threads the mouth-frothing and lack of reasoned input from our leaver friends leaves them looking like imbeciles.  A quick recap from only one such inane post:

europhiles

 

quislings

 

traitors

 

opportunistic power grabbing socialists

 

traitors

Welcome to the forum new member Scot123.  

1 hour ago, Scot123 said:

Do you think so? The treasonous traitors are now sh@ting themselves and the prospect of an election scares them as most lied to their constitutes about supporting the will of the people. The people are angry, very angry. No EU gravy train job awaits them now. Roll on the election. Clear our swamp. 

I'm angry.  I'm angry at Brexiteers.  Never mind clear 'our swamp'- it's a slurry pit.  Drop these dreadful Brexit people in it, then do we what we do in the country with a slurry pit the next day.  The 'will of the people' you bang on about is not what you think it is, but the opposite.  If you don't believe me, support a new vote on the subject.

[StreetCowboy]

33 minutes ago, Loiner said:

They are still a Brexit government but being frustrated partly by a bunch of Europhile quislings and traitors. The others are opportunistic power grabbing socialists, who will stop at nothing to usurp the elected govt.
Remainers moaned from losing the referendum and continued moaning for three years. They moaned when Boris took control to prorogue Parliament and called it a coup. Then another of their dirty tricks took the party traitors to take control of the HOC. Now they gloat.
Wait for Boris’s next game play and they’ll be moaning again. They’ll still be moaning and moaning long after we have fully Brexited.


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On the contrary; the go ernment's Brexit plans were undermined by hard brexiteers who voted against the govenrment.  Admit responsibiltiy,  It was the hard brexiteers that prevented brexit.

[Thairealist]

2 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

You have to start somewhere, unless you are a Brexiteer.

 

After they sabotaged their party in government, are they closer towards any form of Brexit, or further?

 

Theresa May could have achieved "Brexit" and taken us towards what you might want.  Boris killed that.

Who do you call the traitor?

 

 

 

 The M.P who have tried for the last 3yrs to stop Brexit taking place, along with their muppets.

[StreetCowboy]

Let's face it; Boris Johnson has blocked Brexit just like his family wanted him to.

You might call that an honest mistake.

[StreetCowboy]

1 minute ago, Thairealist said:

 

 The M.P who have tried for the last 3yrs to stop Brexit taking place, along with their muppets.

The government had a majority.  It was hard line Brexiteers within the conservative party that voted against May's solution.   In my view, people that vote with their party might be called cowards, but not traitors.  Who voted against May's Brexit deal? Who in the Tory Party voted against Brexit?

 

SC

[sanemax]

6 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

On the contrary; the go ernment's Brexit plans were undermined by hard brexiteers who voted against the govenrment.  Admit responsibiltiy,  It was the hard brexiteers that prevented brexit.

the brexiteers voted against T Mays half leaving proposals and the remainers also voted against it .

   It has been the EU and the remainers who have prevented what the people of the UK voted for

[StreetCowboy]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

the brexiteers voted against T Mays half leaving proposals and the remainers also voted against it .

   It has been the EU and the remainers who have prevented what the people of the UK voted for

I think you will find that it was Parliament, who is elected to govern us, that voted against it.  If you want government by plebiscite, that is a more fundamental change.

 

I don't want that. I vote for an MP I trust.

 

I don't know who you vote for.

 

SC

[sanemax]

6 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

I think you will find that it was Parliament, who is elected to govern us, that voted against it.  If you want government by plebiscite, that is a more fundamental change.

 

I don't want that. I vote for an MP I trust.

 

I don't know who you vote for.

 

SC

Although I do have a strong suspicion, that you would agree with the result of a referendum .,had the populace voted in favour of you opinion