Whistleblower offers Republicans testimony as Trump pushes to unmask

[J Town]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

Naw dude, I get it, you have your politics, I have mine.

 

Its cool.

 

Im living large in the Mango making fat cash back home  like I did when Reagan and Clinton were the Prez and back then I had to work instead of doing nothing like I am now. Its all about the economy, and my accountant says s**t be on fire homey. 

 

Have a fabulous day!

So you'd be happy with Satan running things as long as your money continued to flow? Screw the children being separated from their families? Screw the poor children whose lunches are being taken away? Screw the Kurds who are being raped and killed? Screw how the dignity of the office of the president of the United States has spiraled into the toilet? Screw how there are no more press briefs (over eight months since the last one)? The list goes on. I pity anyone who accepts politics like these. Judas did the same.

Edited November 4, 2019 by J Town

[Sujo]

17 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

1. The president denies!

2. The president confirms!

 

One, if not both of you must be wrong.

The president denied it and released the transcript summary, which confirmed it.

 

note the repubs cant get there act together. They dont know how to attack it. They tried the process but that was nothing. Tried the whistleblower but that gave them nothing. Tried vindman but going against the purple heart hero was not working.

 

only thing left is to say yeah he did it but we dont think its bad.

[J Town]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Should Congress vote to impeach Trump, a trial will be held in the Senate. 

 

At a trial the accused should be allowed to face their accuser.

 

Stop trying to play semantics for political gain.

It's not semantics, it's how the laws are. Desperate Republicans are becoming, as a whole, unhinged. They CAN'T defend using facts so they throw every possible made-up obstacle in the way of the impending impeachment. Guilty people don't obstruct. Remember all those subpoenas Obama ignored? Of course you don't because he gladly complied.

[Sujo]

4 minutes ago, J Town said:

So you'd be happy with Satan running things as long as your money continued to flow? Screw the children being separated from their families? Screw the poor children whose lunches are being taken away? Screw the Kurds who are being raped and killed? Screw how the dignity of the office of the president of the United States has spiraled into the toilet? Screw how there are no more press briefs (over eight months since the last one)? The list goes on. I pity anyone who accepts politics like these. Judas did the same.

In reality trump supporters dont even care about the economy. If that goes down the drain they will just say we want trump because we dont want a dem. They just dont care about the country.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

In reality trump supporters dont even care about the economy. If that goes down the drain they will just say we want trump because we dont want a dem. They just dont care about the country.

Some might care but if it tanks they will follow 45's blame game on others. We're talking about a cult of bad personality now. Also his core white working class base is at great risk of being badly damaged by 45s pro billionaire policies but again the high of belonging to a cult trumps economic self interest. 

Edited November 4, 2019 by Jingthing

[Nyezhov]

8 minutes ago, J Town said:

So you'd be happy with Satan running things as long as your money continued to flow?

Sure. I lived through Clinton and Reagan quite happily. They were Satan to some folks.

 

9 minutes ago, J Town said:

Screw the children being separated from their families

Didn't much bother me when Obamas admin did it to illegal aliens. Doesn't bother me when CPS does it to American citizens that broke some law either. 

 

12 minutes ago, J Town said:

Screw the poor children whose lunches are being taken away

Lol. Ok.

 

13 minutes ago, J Town said:

Screw the Kurds who are being raped and killed?

Not our responsibility. Bring the troops home. 

 

16 minutes ago, J Town said:

Screw how there are no more press briefs (over eight months since the last one)?

So?

What does he need a press brief for? So reporters can posture? Are you claiming he is less accessible to the press than Obama?

 

14 minutes ago, J Town said:

Screw how the dignity of the office of the president of the United States has spiraled into the toilet?

Well he hasnt dropped a load on an interns dress has he? Here have a cigar.

 

11 minutes ago, Sujo said:

They just dont care about the country.

Exactly what many folks say about Democrats and the left.

 

 

[BobBKK]

Pathetic coward. Stop the secrecy, man-up, and come out and tell your story. If this had happened to Clinton all hell would break loose.

[BobBKK]

3 hours ago, rabas said:

Witness credibility, a crucial part of any fact finding endeavour especially for third party information and innuendo.

 

This. Clinton had the chance to hear his accuser and when Muller testified we could all see he could not even remember his name! No doubt the 'whistleblower' also went against his contract of employment which details confidentiality - leaders talk to other leaders all the time and Biden said far worse on camera (but that's all ok huh?).

[J Town]

17 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Pathetic coward. Stop the secrecy, man-up, and come out and tell your story. If this had happened to Clinton all hell would break loose.

Pathetic coward? Trump has publicly threatened him with possible death.

[bendejo]

5 hours ago, Sujo said:

Why do you need to know who he is?

 

It has nothing to do with who it is, its about the evidence.

This is just something for him to say.

Notice that he produces buzzwords that he uses to perpetuate his arguments, and keeps repeating them.  He'll use them several times in one rambling sentence. E.g. "There was no collusion and the report said no collusion because there was no collusion." 

"Hey honey, what did they say on the news tonight?"

"No collusion."

 

I just saw him doing his "walk from the helicopter" thing and he said "whistleblower" at least 4 times in 20 seconds. 

 

As for the identity of the person it doesn't matter, they have enough witnesses to cover the phone call in question.  Hints have been emerging that there may me many more charges against him than those to do with the infamous call, and it's coming from the investigation.

He wants the identity so he can call him names, tie him to the Clintons/Obama/{insert any ridiculous stuff here}, defame him, etc.  This is sort of like "Mean Girls" where one of the mean girls becomes the school principal.

 

I predict "perfect phone call" will make its way into popular usage, in a quasi-sarcastic way.  It may the thing he keeps shouting while they escort him from the WH in handcuffs.

 

 

[IraqRon]

and you repubs supporters don't remember how they (repubs) refused to consider and allow questioning of Trump's two supreme court appointments, by the dems except for a trumped up group of repub senators "interviewing" and besumching a whistleblower about her assualt by the last one.  Repubs like to have it all their way and cry wolf when some groups assert their rightfull actions.

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Sad to say option 4 is that 45 could be reelected. Tragic but possible. 

Unfortunately I had to start coming to terms with that possibility after seeing the last Dem debate.  As I've been saying since 1988 the biggest advantage the GOP has is their adversary is the Dems.

 

 

[bamboozle]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Unmasking a Whistleblower is a felony.

 

Again Trump believes he is above the law.

and leaking confidential information while working in the whitehouse is treasonous so he is not a whistleblower but a traitor 

[Becker]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

That's a loaded question. Our constitution is great. However the 45 Maga slogan is clearly about when America was much more white. 

The MAGA slogan really means MAWA (Make America White Again) but they couldn't get away with saying it outright (except among the "evangelical Christians" perhaps).

Edited November 4, 2019 by Becker

[J Town]

17 minutes ago, bamboozle said:

and leaking confidential information while working in the whitehouse is treasonous so he is not a whistleblower but a traitor 

NO no no no no! This patriot went up the chain of command and conferred with a U.S. government attorney before making formal complaints. That dog don't hunt; it's a red herring to distract from Trump's crimes.

[J Town]

4 minutes ago, Becker said:

The MAGA slogan really means MAWA (Make America White Again) but they couldn't get away with saying it outright (except among the "evangelical Christians" perhaps).

98% of evangelical supporters also watch Faux Noise. THAT'S a disturbing statistic!

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, bamboozle said:

and leaking confidential information while working in the whitehouse is treasonous so he is not a whistleblower but a traitor 

Wrong. 

This wasn't a leak.

It was a fully legal and protected whistleblower report done via the proper channels. 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Wrong. 

This wasn't a leak.

It was a fully legal and protected whistleblower report done via the proper channels. 

Dont bamboozle him with facts.

[KKr]

From my experience in that field:
Usually it is those who benefitted 
(especially when still in power)
that call a Whistleblower a liar.

[BobBKK]

3 hours ago, J Town said:

Pathetic coward? Trump has publicly threatened him with possible death.

Source?  link?  this 'person' must be allowed to be cross examined, challenged and questioned like any other person. Hiding behind closed doors in secret sessions is NOT in compliance with fairness OR past precedence.  It is one year from the election why not let the people decide?  or they think they will lose? It won't get past the senate anyhow.

[KKr]

3 hours ago, bendejo said:

"perfect phone call"

like the call with Erdogan ?
Was the transcript published yet, after Erdogan stating that Trump approved the Plan to go in (meaning: remove the Kurds from the Map) ?

[KKr]

4 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Source?  link?  this 'person' must be allowed to be cross examined, challenged and questioned like any other person. Hiding behind closed doors in secret sessions is NOT in compliance with fairness OR past precedence.  It is one year from the election why not let the people decide?  or they think they will lose? It won't get past the senate anyhow.

obviously you do not understand the position of a Whistleblower, and why they should be protected.

[J Town]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

Source?  link?  this 'person' must be allowed to be cross examined, challenged and questioned like any other person. Hiding behind closed doors in secret sessions is NOT in compliance with fairness OR past precedence.  It is one year from the election why not let the people decide?  or they think they will lose? It won't get past the senate anyhow.

Here is the direct quote:

“The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now,” Trump said.

 

There are multiple sources, you can look them up to your satisfaction. There is NO cross examination in an inquiry. In a court case, perhaps, but as it stands now, Trump made these threats and is the precise reason we have whistle blower protection laws.

[BobBKK]

3 hours ago, bendejo said:

Unfortunately I had to start coming to terms with that possibility after seeing the last Dem debate.  As I've been saying since 1988 the biggest advantage the GOP has is their adversary is the Dems.

 

 

I think Trump will win with a larger base. The Dems have what?  Russia nothing burgers, Ukraine silliness what's next Estonia?

[J Town]

Just now, BobBKK said:

I think Trump will win with a larger base. The Dems have what?  Russia nothing burgers, Ukraine silliness what's next Estonia?

Ukraine "silliness?" They are a U.S. ally (remember how well that worked out for the Kurds?) under Russian attack at this very moment. Why else would the U.S. give them nearly half a billion dollars in military aid? Trump's base is dwindling, and expect a faster exodus as soon as the hearings go public.

 

When was the last time you heard any news to the effect of "Oh, gee, that certainly seems to show Trump's innocence?"

[BobBKK]

5 minutes ago, J Town said:

Ukraine "silliness?" They are a U.S. ally (remember how well that worked out for the Kurds?) under Russian attack at this very moment. Why else would the U.S. give them nearly half a billion dollars in military aid? Trump's base is dwindling, and expect a faster exodus as soon as the hearings go public.

 

When was the last time you heard any news to the effect of "Oh, gee, that certainly seems to show Trump's innocence?"

Kurds have been in that position long before Trump came along. Last I heard was Biden boasting about his quid pro quo 6 hours before his flight out of Kiev but you don't seem to mind that.

 

Let's see what 2020 brings but one things for sure Dems are scared stiff of Trump winning. Many neutrals, like me, would vote for him just to spite the dumb Dems.

[J Town]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

Kurds have been in that position long before Trump came along. Last I heard was Biden boasting about his quid pro quo 6 hours before his flight out of Kiev but you don't seem to mind that.

 

Let's see what 2020 brings but one things for sure Dems are scared stiff of Trump winning. Many neutrals, like me, would vote for him just to spite the dumb Dems.

You twist words around to avoid the point. The topic is the legality (or lack of) exposing the whistleblower. And all people capable of critical thinking, who can weigh truth vs despicable lies are frightened of another Trump term. These are the people who don't use loaded terms like "dumb Dems."

[KKr]

9 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Many neutrals, like me, would vote for him just to spite the dumb Dems.

I liked some of your comments in other threads,
nevertheless, as proven here, stupid is as stupid does. 
I am glad there is a ignore button on this Forum.
Good Luck with the Trumperica cult.

[BobBKK]

3 minutes ago, J Town said:

You twist words around to avoid the point. The topic is the legality (or lack of) exposing the whistleblower. And all people capable of critical thinking, who can weigh truth vs despicable lies are frightened of another Trump term. These are the people who don't use loaded terms like "dumb Dems."

Not at all you won't tell us why it is not hypocritical for Biden to explicitly force out a prosecutor and boast he threatened the Ukrainians with no aid but it terrible for Trump to ask about Bidens son working, with no experience, for a Ukrainian company. Back to the whistleblower,  anyone is entitled to defend themselves, ask question and be represented as IN THE PAST.

I don't like Trump, I'm pro-choice etc., but I despise the clowning around of the Dems far more and THAT is the Dems problem come 2020. Millions, who are quiet, will vote for him to spite the Dems and their false narrative even calling Gabbard a Russian Asset. What a farce.

[BobBKK]

1 minute ago, KKr said:

I liked some of your comments in other threads,
nevertheless, as proven here, stupid is as stupid does. 
I am glad there is a ignore button on this Forum.
Good Luck with the Trumperica cult.

I post with balance I am not a Trump supporter by any means but I loathe hypocrisy. BTW I am not American just a neutral observer.