Democrats release new batch of testimony from Trump impeachment inquiry

[Tippaporn]

10 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

Even if Trump does not lose his job for the corrupt things he has done since day one of his presidency

the Republicans will still have a major problem.After he "wins" the impeachment investigation" he will still run the office of President like a criminal dictator and insist on more corrupt and illegal edicts being put into law.Then when the people of the USA vote in 2020 most of the current senators will be voted out of office.

If these senators want to save their positions after 2020 they need to act now and carry out the job they swore to do on entering the senate.

I'd be more worried if I were a Dem legislator.

[alanrchase]

Even Lindsey Graham has given up on the "he's innocent" defence and is searching for a technicality to get the impeachment dropped. He requires the whistle blower to testify otherwise it is unconstitutional. No doubt Graham will now be demanding that police anonymous tip lines are shut down and there will be a review of all prosecutions where the investigations started with an anonymous tip. 

[RideJocky]

43 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

Even if Trump does not lose his job for the corrupt things he has done since day one of his presidency

the Republicans will still have a major problem.After he "wins" the impeachment investigation" he will still run the office of President like a criminal dictator and insist on more corrupt and illegal edicts being put into law.Then when the people of the USA vote in 2020 most of the current senators will be voted out of office.

If these senators want to save their positions after 2020 they need to act now and carry out the job they swore to do on entering the senate.

Some examples of acting like a criminal dictator? 
 

You mean like asking a foreign leader to investigate corruption? 
 

 

[Tippaporn]

Eric Swalwell on Face The Nation, Nov. 10th, 2019.  At the 1:28 mark:

 

"These witness have been fairly consistent and for the most part have not been talking or coordinating with each other . . . "

 

A gaffe by Eric?  LOL  Imagine that!  " . . . . for the most part . . . . "

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/20191110200939-congressman-eric-swalwell-on-face-the-nation/

 

I'll let the readers soak that up.  Can't wait to hear the excuses the left will come up with.  Should be some hilarious responses.  LOL

 

[Sujo]

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Eric Swalwell on Face The Nation, Nov. 10th, 2019.  At the 1:28 mark:

 

"These witness have been fairly consistent and for the most part have not been talking or coordinating with each other . . . "

 

A gaffe by Eric?  LOL  Imagine that!  " . . . . for the most part . . . . "

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/20191110200939-congressman-eric-swalwell-on-face-the-nation/

 

I'll let the readers soak that up.  Can't wait to hear the excuses the left will come up with.  Should be hilarious.  LOL

 

Thats the reason the evidence was done in private. To reduce the chances of that happening. If it was public then each would know what the other said.

 

sondland saw the writing on the wall and decided to tell the truth.

[Sujo]

18 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

Some examples of acting like a criminal dictator? 
 

You mean like asking a foreign leader to investigate corruption? 
 

 

Against a political rival, yes

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Thats the reason the evidence was done in private. To reduce the chances of that happening. If it was public then each would know what the other said.

 

sondland saw the writing on the wall and decided to tell the truth.

Response No. 1.  Anybody buy it?  LOL  I don't.

[RideJocky]

Just now, Sujo said:

Thats the reason the evidence was done in private. To reduce the chances of that happening. If it was public then each would know what the other said.

 

sondland saw the writing on the wall and decided to tell the truth.

What was written on the wall, an offer to be a “political advisor” on CNN?

[RideJocky]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Against a political rival, yes

So are “political rivals“ immune from corruption or just immune from investigation. 
 

in any event, assuming Biden has done nothing, how would this benefit Trump? Seems to me, Biden would want his name cleared, no?

[Proboscis]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Does anybody check if anybody out there changes his or her mind about Trump?

For many of us it's obvious since forever that he is lying all the time, enriching himself, and ignoring all the rules.

If the president could be prosecuted like anybody else he would probably be already in jail - with not much chance of coming out anytime soon.

But then there are those people who ignore any evidence. They still support Trump and it seems there is nothing that would convince them that Trump should be removed.

More evidence for what? If people didn't get it until now why would they change their mind with new evidence? They believe in Trump like a religion. It's impossible to convince them with facts. 

Actually they do check if anyone changes his or her mind about Trump. Why do you think that the Democrats are now bringing the impeachment investigation before the house? Yes, of course they now have evidence that not even the WHite House disputes. But they also know that the percentage of the population in favor of impeachiment has gone from 32% during the Muller probe to just over 50% now.

[RideJocky]

1 minute ago, Proboscis said:

Why do you think that the Democrats are now bringing the impeachment investigation before the house?

So they can string it out and leak “testimony” until the election. 
 

Why do you think Nancy waited? She’s had the votes in the house for three years.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Response No. 1.  Anybody buy it?  LOL  I don't.

You don’t accept sworn testimony but you hang your hopes on something said during a TV interview.

 

LOL back at ya!

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

So they can string it out and leak “testimony” until the election. 
 

Why do you think Nancy waited? She’s had the votes in the house for three years.

Go on tell us why?!

[RideJocky]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Go on tell us why?!

Read my post, I already said why I think she waited. 
 

Please try to follow along.

[Sujo]

13 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

So are “political rivals“ immune from corruption or just immune from investigation. 
 

in any event, assuming Biden has done nothing, how would this benefit Trump? Seems to me, Biden would want his name cleared, no?

Not imune. Fbi or state dept can do it. But trump cannot ask a foreign govt to do it.

 

Biden can clear his name or not. Its not relevant. Its about what trump did.

 

[Sujo]

10 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

So they can string it out and leak “testimony” until the election. 
 

Why do you think Nancy waited? She’s had the votes in the house for three years.

You call the release of full transcripts of testimony leaks?

 

The full testimony repubs have been asking for.

[Tippaporn]

23 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Thats the reason the evidence was done in private. To reduce the chances of that happening. If it was public then each would know what the other said.

 

sondland saw the writing on the wall and decided to tell the truth.

But Schiff was leaking cherry picked testimony from all of the witnesses.  So tell me again what the purpose of hearings done in SCIFs has?

 

Another point is that there are no measures in place to prevent witnesses from talking or coordinating with each other outside of hearings.

 

Just a few holes in what you attempt to pass off as logic.

 

Perhaps the only purpose is to prevent anyone from knowing what is transpiring?

[Tippaporn]

7 minutes ago, Sujo said:

You call the release of full transcripts of testimony leaks?

 

The full testimony repubs have been asking for.

Come on, Sujo.  Yes, Schiff eventually released full transcripts.  But prior to those releases he was leaking.  Is your memory that short?  Or selective?

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

But Schiff was leaking cherry picked testimony from all of the witnesses.  So tell me again what the purpose of hearings done in SCIFs has?

 

Another point is that there are no measures in place to prevent witnesses from talking or coordinating with each other outside of hearings.

 

Just a few holes in what you attempt to pass off as logic.

 

Perhaps the only purpose is to prevent anyone from knowing what is transpiring?

How did they keep it all secret from the Republican members of the Investigating Committees?

[Chomper Higgot]

The public hearings start tomorrow.

 

Have our illiberal brethren amongst us been given their talking points yet?

 

What, I wonder will they find objectionable?

 

I’m guessing not the substance of testimony or evidence.

 

 

 

 

[Sujo]

18 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

But Schiff was leaking cherry picked testimony from all of the witnesses.  So tell me again what the purpose of hearings done in SCIFs has?

 

Another point is that there are no measures in place to prevent witnesses from talking or coordinating with each other outside of hearings.

 

Just a few holes in what you attempt to pass off as logic.

 

Perhaps the only purpose is to prevent anyone from knowing what is transpiring?

What measures can u put in place. It is also done in the scif in case there are national security matters discussed.

 

You do realise that during impeachment investigations of clinton and nixon it was done in secret.

 

As for coirdinating. Yeah that sondland guy who donated a million to trump campaign is really a never trumper. You are simply projecting with no evidence.

 

Im sure if what they said was wrong trump would direct his staff to give evidence to clear him. No go project why that is.

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The public hearings start tomorrow.

 

Have the illiberal brethren amongst us been given their talking points yet?

 

What, I wonder will they find objectionable?

 

I’m guessing not the substance of testimony or evidence.

 

 

Its bidens fault

[Somtamnication]

That White House is sinking faster than the Titanic.

[Eric Loh]

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

How did they keep it all secret from the Republican members of the Investigating Committees?

A dozen of them in the closed hearing and 11 of the 41 republicans that staged that childish invasion of the house had access for the closed hearing but choose to join in that ludicrous and desperate diversion prank.  

[Tippaporn]

7 minutes ago, Sujo said:

What measures can u put in place. It is also done in the scif in case there are national security matters discussed.

 

You do realise that during impeachment investigations of clinton and nixon it was done in secret.

 

As for coirdinating. Yeah that sondland guy who donated a million to trump campaign is really a never trumper. You are simply projecting with no evidence.

 

Im sure if what they said was wrong trump would direct his staff to give evidence to clear him. No go project why that is.

It was a point made at the outset of the inquiry that no national security matters were involved in any of the upcoming testimonies so therefore what was the point of holding them in SCIFs.

 

And you and all the lefties understand quite well the extreme departure between Pelosi and Schiff's procedures versus past procedures.  But it doesn't stop anyone here from playing stupid or trying to draw meager comparisons to show that the procedures now are similar.

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

A dozen of them in the closed hearing and 11 of the 41 republicans that staged that childish invasion of the house had access for the closed hearing but choose to join in that ludicrous and desperate diversion prank.  

The issues raised extended far beyond the single matter of closed door hearings.  You know that but that information wouldn't fit into the narrative you want to portray with your comment.

[RideJocky]

18 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

That White House is sinking faster than the Titanic.

Wow, it took the Titanic over three years to sink?

[Eric Loh]

5 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

The issues raised extended far beyond the single matter of closed door hearings.  You know that but that information wouldn't fit into the narrative you want to portray with your comment.

The invasion was certainly not because Matt Gaetz couldn’t find a better place to eat pizza. They did conjured up a reason that the American people deserve a public and open hearing. Now they got it. End of story but not for the republicans who continue to muddy the water with their idiosyncratic pranks.  

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

It was a point made at the outset of the inquiry that no national security matters were involved in any of the upcoming testimonies so therefore what was the point of holding them in SCIFs.

 

And you and all the lefties understand quite well the extreme departure between Pelosi and Schiff's procedures versus past procedures.  But it doesn't stop anyone here from playing stupid or trying to draw meager comparisons to show that the procedures now are similar.

So why was the transcript of subject telephone call hidden in the highest security Intelligence Service server?

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The invasion was certainly not because Matt Gaetz couldn’t find a better place to eat pizza. They did conjured up a reason that the American people deserve a public and open hearing. Now they got it. End of story but not for the republicans who continue to muddy the water with their idiosyncratic pranks.  

Now the hearings are going public we’ll hear a different whine (not just yet though, it hasn’t yet been distributed, but it’ll be along shortly).