Rental contrat renewal needed or not?

[SymS]

Earlier this year, I signed a one-year rental contract for a home in Chiang Mai which will expire at the end of January.

So I asked my landlord when we should renew it, and she told me, unless you need the contract for something specific, no need to renew the contract, you can just stay month by month.

 

I actually like the idea. But I'd like to make sure it's indeed not needed for any government papers (I already have the yellow book for the house I rent). I'm staying on a BOI visa, so it's not needed for extension of stay / work permit since the company takes care of everything. But I also eventually plans to apply for permanent residency, and I can't see any mention about rental contract, but I'd just like to make sure I'm not missing anything. Thanks in advance.

[baansgr]

Paying monthly as you said is convenient.....its also convenient for your landlord...she can terminate with short notice also. How this would effect your PR if she kicked you out short of three years I don't know, worth thinking about 

[FritsSikkink]

You don't need to stay in the same house for PR.

[baansgr]

17 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

You don't need to stay in the same house for PR.

But you still need to be in a tabien....if there was a break between being entered to another would that effect the continuation...??

[SymS]

9 minutes ago, baansgr said:

But you still need to be in a tabien....if there was a break between being entered to another would that effect the continuation...??

Yes, that's a potential issue, as I had troubles finding a landlord accepting to update my yellow book. I'm not sure how long I have to find a new house until my yellow book expires, and have to restart from scratch which would be close to impossible right now.

Edited December 22, 2019 by SymS
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[Somnambulist]

Your landlord's way is the usual way.  Sign a one-year contract and then go month by month.  Sure, they could ask you to leave on short notice but that's got to be a rare occurrence.  

[Max69xl]

23 hours ago, baansgr said:

Paying monthly as you said is convenient.....its also convenient for your landlord...she can terminate with short notice also. How this would effect your PR if she kicked you out short of three years I don't know, worth thinking about 

He might also have to show the rental contract for several reasons,to immigration or to a bank etc. A standard rental contract has moving in date and the date of expiration. He's got nothing legal to back him up if there's a problem with the owner/landlord. They can kick him out when ever they want. The contract also states various obligations concerning both the owner and the tenant,who are supposed to pay this and that? Imo a contract is important.

[Max69xl]

1 hour ago, Somnambulist said:

Your landlord's way is the usual way.  Sign a one-year contract and then go month by month.  Sure, they could ask you to leave on short notice but that's got to be a rare occurrence.  

Where is a 'month by month' contract the usual way? The first one year contract has an official ending date. After that it's worth nothing. 

[natway09]

You may find that you need a one year lease agreement for TM 30 (if they come looking)

[Somnambulist]

I've used an out of date contract at Immigration with no problem.  

[SymS]

On 12/23/2019 at 2:30 PM, Max69xl said:

The contract also states various obligations concerning both the owner and the tenant,who are supposed to pay this and that? Imo a contract is important.

Barring vandalism, could the tenant be responsible for more than the deposit? 
I can see if there's damage the tenant may be ask to repair, but there's obviously normal wear and tear, so anything above the deposit would have to go to court.

 

About getting kicked out, I also have proof the landlord wanted to proceed that way (LINE messages), and I pay the rent by bank transfer (no cash).

[silverhawk_usa]

For many years I simply typed up a short agreement, which my landlord and I signed, that said something to the effect that we agreed to continue the original contract as written for another year, and attached it to the existing lease agreement.  Of course that does not address your situation if you really want month to month.

[Max69xl]

30 minutes ago, Somnambulist said:

I've used an out of date contract at Immigration with no problem.  

Well, they don't always notice everything in the contract,but if you think an outdated contract is ok ,then you and other posters are very naive. Just wait until s**t happens, and you'll be very sorry. The "very nice" landlord/owner might not be so nice anymore. 

[cabanlit]

Unless it clearly states in your year contract what any extension rules would be in terms of deposit, notice etc, then get an new one.

 

A month-by-month isn't worth the paper it's not written on - it all expired on the original expiry date (unless detailed, as I asked above), and should anything happen, you have not a leg to stand on.