brianthainess Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 just give me more guns, i'll show you who's popular 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Should have asked the question of do you think he won the election for a 99% result ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: IT looks like Thanathorn is well on the way to become a " symbol " of freedom ( of speech at least ) , in Thailand . He promises a future to the younger generation , and this is exactly what they need and want . And he dares to publicly oppose the government and it's corruption . It was about time somebody did that . Many people are tired with the governments new laws and decisions which make life more difficult for everyone . Thanathorn symbolises hope for a more democratic future for Thailand . If they decide to put him in prison or kill him , it will provoke some violent reactions , so they better do not . im sure the army will be reasonable about this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Do you people really think this person cares about the situation in the country so much? I'm sure not! With all his billions that he stole from you too, he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world. You have enough examples and I don't think he should list them! If there should be another coup, he can easily escape, we can't! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThomasThBKK Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, 30la said: Do you people really think this person cares about the situation in the country so much? I'm sure not! With all his billions that he stole from you too, he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world. You have enough examples and I don't think he should list them! If there should be another coup, he can easily escape, we can't! Just because he isn't a loser doesn't mean he's evil. His company provides value and employment, unlike you. He has 15 000 Employees with a revenue of 80 billion baht each year. What is so evil about manufacturing car parts exactly? Did you just make <deleted> up? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OKF Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Nip said: I disagree. If the rest of the world does not agree with military rule why has the rest of the world bowed down before this unelected military government, including my own. It's called trade nobody wants to mess up trade. Thailand is in control of its own wealth and I bet every single foreign diplomat in Thailand has on his embassy wall a photo of him shaking hands with Cha Cha Cha in goverment house. Embassies are TRADE Missions don't think for a moment they are here for their citizens. They support unelected military rule. I disagree with you and I do not know which is your embassy but my embassy supported and supports him to best means possible. There were a few embassies that went with him to the police station much to the anger of the foreign ministry who got their anger answered with a hint to the Geneva Convention. I can tell you that Germany (and some others) do keep a close eye on what is happening. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter14 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 junta only here to accumulate more money and leave Thailand in Limbo ... they doing jut fine ! ... .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 12 hours ago, webfact said: However, 15.35 per cent were afraid that the rally might cause conflict and thought a legal approach should be used instead. Well, here we have some oblivious citizens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC6688 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I can see what happen in Hong Kong now will soon happen in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 A troll post lobbying for POTY votes has been removed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Perhaps they look at the so called Western democracies and their current state - US, UK, France, Australia, Canada, and see what a crock-of-<deleted> they are! Glad you said "so-called" democracies. Human rights and freedoms are rapidly becoming as rare in some of the countries you mention as they are traditionally have been here. Edited December 23, 2019 by Krataiboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 hours ago, scorecard said: Point taken; but lay low for how long, 10 years, 20 years? IMHO if everybody lays low it just encourages the military folks to maintain and ensure they maintain strong control. Possibly including things like S44 and attitude adjustment & detention etc. I have to agree but in Thailand it seems those that oppose the government can just disappear. That would be problematic for him and the movement it appears he is spear heading. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: It seems the military has nothing to worry about. More than a quarter of those responding to a poll supported the political rally organised by Future Forward Party (FWP) leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit That means that three-quarters did not support it. It actually means that three quarters of the people asked did not support it. Choose a different target group and/or ask different questions and you will get a different answer. If you want to run a poll, then first start with the answer that you want then frame the questions you need to ask, then find the target group that you want. One thing I have noticed about polls world wide is that we never see the questions asked or the target groups. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, 30la said: Do you people really think this person cares about the situation in the country so much? I'm sure not! With all his billions that he stole from you too, he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world. You have enough examples and I don't think he should list them! If there should be another coup, he can easily escape, we can't! quote "With all his billions that he stole from you too, he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world." Do you have any proof of what you have said, assuming that you are talking about Thanathorn? If you have then I am sure that the government or the PPRP will pay you well for it. Of course if you have no proof other than your opinion, then why bother to post. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, billd766 said: One thing I have noticed about polls world wide is that we never see the questions asked or the target groups. Or even proof that the questions were asked at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 There is no such thing as a legal process 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarcB Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 Here's a number to show how ridiculous polls are: 1.277 citizens, out of 10.000.000 That is 0,01277 % of the BKK population (Rounded up 0,013 %) Over 18 years old, let's say 5,000,000 Still not even 1%, not even 0,1% but only 0,03 % What exactly is the use of polls if they cannot represent a small fraction of the populace? Polls are opinion makers, and are used to drive an agenda. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 17 hours ago, brian2f2f said: A violent reaction i think is an understatement. Look at what the yellow and ree shirts did over their 2 parties to each other and now both red and yellow both side by side saying military out thanaton in. Takes his money plus the sinuats and not to mention if this keeps growing othet huge finical people like central owner and so on and they all bond together to get them out. Especially if all of the biggest finicial people here made a pack over this to up and leave including their businesses over seas if this military government dont go. It would come to an end soon. Nearly all malls would be gone accept their buildings 100 of millions of thais withiut jobs 10s of billions of baht leaving thailand. Especially if cp left then the food industry such as restaurant would take a huge hit since cp is a main food supplier for restuants here. The military would basically have 2 choices leave or losr about 80% of all thailands money. And at that point the king would also be put in a position to either use his powers to remove the current government and hold and all new election with all previous candidate minus the military for pm or watch thailand lose everything. Thailand would never recover if all of them banded together and left thailand and took their companies with them leaving all buildings empty. And keep in mind cp owns all 7elevens in thailand. So 7 eleven would no longer exist here as well. Let the owners of big c and tesco also pull out closing their malls here too. All auto manufactures leave and nevee do business with thailand again. Then the only cars left here would be the ones currently here. Thanatom has the money and influence to standup to the militaty and thr currage. Im sure other big names like cp want to as well but are too scared to do so. Oh and lets not forget companies like shell esso and so on leaving caueing the only fuel to remain in thailand be whats currently here. Thus cars planes boats motorbikes soon wouldnt be able to be useable anymore here. And all flights to thailand would end boats and so on too thus no more tourists and those living jere quickly leaving and all thais that can be gone too. Have you been drinking? 14 hours ago, 30la said: Do you people really think this person cares about the situation in the country so much? I'm sure not! With all his billions that he stole from you too, he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world. You have enough examples and I don't think he should list them! If there should be another coup, he can easily escape, we can't! Suggest read up on the bloke and his legit business before making twot of oneself. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 15 hours ago, spidermike007 said: This guy is a hero to the Thai people. How many heroes can you think of, in contemporary Thai society? They need one! And I totally support him. He may be the answer. This nation needs to figure out a way of putting the useless and incompetent army out to pasture. For good! Get out Prayuth. You are not needed, you are not wanted, and you are despised by most people here. Wholeheartedly agree, Mike. The place absolutely needs a hero with his qualities to save it. Someone with brains and honest intentions who has nothing to gain personally... and a cool name to boot. For once, I can see a fleck of light at the end of the tunnel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 18 hours ago, 30la said: Do you people really think this person cares about the situation in the country so much? I'm sure not! With all his billions that he stole from you too, he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world. You have enough examples and I don't think he should list them! If there should be another coup, he can easily escape, we can't! speak for yourself im 20 minutes from a very lax border crossing with more holes than a pattaya bar girl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 18 hours ago, 30la said: Do you people really think this person cares about the situation in the country so much? I'm sure not! With all his billions that he stole from you too, he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world. You have enough examples and I don't think he should list them! If there should be another coup, he can easily escape, we can't! What a completely ridiculous pile of hogwash your post is. And about this statement of your's, "........ he can run very fast without risk and live where he wants in this world." He's already living where he wants. But he is putting his life on the line, and a target on his temple, to make Thailand a better place for the vast majority of Thais. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc651 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) It's not looking good. With just slightly more than 50% having a level of "sympathy", that are low numbers. The amount of people willing to mobilize, to actually go out and protest will be much much lower. Too low. Actually, the young generation was absent at the rally, apart from curious passers-by. Those who came over were 30 and mostly 40 tear olds. While Thannakorn targets the youth, unfortunately fact is that the youth is largely indifferent. The Facebook generation will not come out to the streets as long as they can continue online shopping, gaming and chatting. Their main concern is the amount of points saved on shoppee or lazada, visiting shopping malls, and for the rest they don't care. Speak to some 18 to 30 year olds and try to find the rare exception.... good luck! So it's looking really good for the powers that be, in my opinion the "resistance" will be by far too low to force regime change. Only a serious economic crash (=e.g. let's just simply say when the youth can't afford shopping any more) would create enough critical mass (and even then, the question would be who would capitalize on this, given the ever growing lack of critical thinking skills - it could as well be the next dictator...). Edited December 24, 2019 by marc651 Typo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, daveAustin said: Have you been drinking? Suggest read up on the bloke and his legit business before making twot of oneself. Too late for that I am sad to say. Edited December 24, 2019 by billd766 Correcting spelling errors again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post White Christmas13 Posted December 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, marc651 said: It's not looking good. With just slightly more than 50% having a level of "sympathy", that are low numbers. The amount of people willing to mobilize, to actually go out and protest will be much much lower. Too low. Actually, the young generation was absent at the rally, apart from curious passers-by. Those who came over were 30 and mostly 40 tear olds. While Thannakorn targets the youth, unfortunately fact is that the youth is largely indifferent. The Facebook generation will not come out to the streets as long as they can continue online shopping, gaming and chatting. Their main concern is the amount of points saved on shoppee or lazada, visiting shopping malls, and for the rest they don't care. Speak to some 18 to 30 year olds and try to find the rare exception.... good luck! So it's looking really good for the powers that be, in my opinion the "resistance" will be by far too low to force regime change. Only a serious economic crash (=e.g. let's just simply say when the youth can't afford shopping any more) would create enough critical mass (and even then, the question would be who would capitalize on this, given the ever growing lack of critical thinking skills - it could as well be the next dictator...). Rubbish, his post had over 350.000 views Thanks to everyone showing their stand against the regime that has frozen Thailand from going forward together yesterday at the Sky Walk, Pathumwan intersection, Bangkok and other friendly locations across the country such as Chiang Mai, Lamphun, Samut Prakan, Khon Kaen and Udon Thani . The power that we show together Open to new hopes and possibilities That many people did not dare to hope before Therefore surrender and bow down to receive fate . Yesterday, the fire of hope was lit. Because we dare to dream Dare to confront injustice together . Move on Although they will destroy us in all forms Subjecting additional cases, reducing credibility of the movement through fake news, firing fierce hatred among citizens, creating mass clashes, intimidating and depriving the right to freedom of expression And many other dirty games that we may not think of . But that will not make us discouraged He wants us to be scared. Therefore we are not afraid. I can't do it alone. Therefore needs everyone's strength and support to come together to do Encourage each other Stepped together with firmness . This is a callback for the future of all of us. Thank you all from the heart. . Keep this fire of hope Don't let it go out. #Doesn't fall back Keep the fire burning 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, marc651 said: It's not looking good. With just slightly more than 50% having a level of "sympathy", that are low numbers. The amount of people willing to mobilize, to actually go out and protest will be much much lower. Too low. Actually, the young generation was absent at the rally, apart from curious passers-by. Those who came over were 30 and mostly 40 tear olds. While Thannakorn targets the youth, unfortunately fact is that the youth is largely indifferent. The Facebook generation will not come out to the streets as long as they can continue online shopping, gaming and chatting. Their main concern is the amount of points saved on shoppee or lazada, visiting shopping malls, and for the rest they don't care. Speak to some 18 to 30 year olds and try to find the rare exception.... good luck! So it's looking really good for the powers that be, in my opinion the "resistance" will be by far too low to force regime change. Only a serious economic crash (=e.g. let's just simply say when the youth can't afford shopping any more) would create enough critical mass (and even then, the question would be who would capitalize on this, given the ever growing lack of critical thinking skills - it could as well be the next dictator...). You speak a lot of truth (above), Marc651. I, too, when later looking at the faces in the crowd of Thanathorn protesters (at the BTS recently) was struck by how many of them were NOT young students (contrary to my expectations). I think that people who have been brainwashed into an addictive 'life on social media' have almost forgotten that there is a REAL world out there and that it sometimes demands risky action to protect the future of that REAL (rather than cyber) world. Tweeting and Facebook-ing, unsupported by REAL world action, will not hack it. I interact with young Thais all the time, and while most don't like the junta, I find very, very, VERY few who are willing to take REAL steps to bring about its cessation (and the situation is even worse amongst highly educated and 'qualified' older Thais). I know of the immense dangers, and so I understand the reluctance. The sad truth, however, is that unless the bull is grasped by the horns, that bull will go on wrecking this beautiful land of Thailand and its lovely, ordinary Thai people forever .... Edited December 24, 2019 by Eligius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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