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UK's Harry and Meghan to drop titles and retire as working royals

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1 hour ago, ivor bigun said:

fine with that no problem ,as long as they pay for themselves ,but they wont ,we will ,wish the govt and taxpayer was paying for my lifestyle here in Thailand 

Excluding security, which is not lifestyle, the British taxpayer is not paying for their "lifestyle"!

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  • (snip) never had any intention of making it work, she was all for grabbing what she could then planning her exit. Saying they felt pushed out is as pathetic as playing the race card. They are still ca

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1 hour ago, Oxx said:

Wonder how they can afford $3.1 million for refurbishing their "cottage".  Pretty sure the Army doesn't pay that well.

Easy.  Multi-million pound inheritances from his mother and great-grandmother and the estimated £5m per year that his father provides out of his own pocket.

 

By the way, he hasn't been in the army for years.

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55 minutes ago, phkauf said:

One of the greatest things America ever did was to tell these Royals to pee off nearly 250 years ago.

What.  You're not exactly a expert historian, are you?!

43 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

"Apart from security", the additional cost will probably be way more than the money that he's lost from the treasury.

Got some figures to back up that claim?  Didn't think so.

Can't wait for the day when Meghan is flanked by Gloria Allred and Lisa Bloom, giving a press conference and spilling the beans on Harry. Poor guy is a bit of dimwit if he doesn't realize this is coming.

1 hour ago, puchooay said:

Prince Harry and Meghan have applied to register the trademark "Sussex Royal" in the UK.

 

Their application was published in December 2019.

 

If no-one objects, the trademark could be registered as early as February 2020.

 

Your opportunity awaits you.

RHQ (past and present) are aware but whether or not they and/or individual veterans pursue the matter isn't yet clear. 

 

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5 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

(snip) never had any intention of making it work, she was all for grabbing what she could then planning her exit. Saying they felt pushed out is as pathetic as playing the race card. They are still calling themselves HRH on their woke website, even though they are not allowed to. Best that can happen is they <deleted> off for good and everyone forgets about them, but she will probably divorce the sap in about three years and marry a billionaire or film star, she is a feminist after all ????

 

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2 hours ago, Oxx said:

Wonder how they can afford $3.1 million for refurbishing their "cottage".  Pretty sure the Army doesn't pay that well.

His mother left him quite a lot of money

Though he is not exactly skint, I hope he finds out what life is like in the real world that the rest of us struggle to survive in.

So I'm an American, so don't have any of the emotional baggage with any of the Royal Family circus.

 

But unless I'm misunderstanding, isn't this arrangement how most other European Monarchies operate in the 21st Century?

 

You have a reigning monarch, but other than the direct line of succession the rest of then, even with some royal title are free and clear to go lead a normal life?

 

Now here's a thought. Had the 'firm' really wanted to keep them Royal, wouldn't the easiest solution have been just made him Governor General of Canada?

 

This sounds to me like this divorce is a win win for all, and is the template for the future if they intend to survive as some Royal UK Disneyland

 

 

3 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Though he is not exactly skint, I hope he finds out what life is like in the real world that the rest of us struggle to survive in.

Speak for yourself!

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Going by many of these posts, by the TV Brit tabloid disciple's mob, Harry & fam have obviously made the right decision. A couple of books about life with mom, then a follow up screenplay and they will be rolling in cash. Most of us in Canada will welcome them with open arms. Just like past refugees from other s%~#,*<e  countries like the Syrians and Saudi girl. Says a lot about England  the way this combat vet was treated.

2 hours ago, Just Weird said:
7 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

i bet they still keep their titles

From the OP that you didn't read....

"They will also no longer use their “Royal Highness” titles..."

I read that as they do still keep their titles, just cannot use those titles. Any time they want  they can return to the fold. Certainly he'll return once she dumps him, I predict.

1 hour ago, pegman said:

Says a lot about England  the way this combat vet was treated.

...an' I bet you get the hump when people make the same ( ???????? , ???????? ) mistake.

 

(FYI: The ???????????????????????????? haven't had their own Army for several centuries & coming to think of it are the only country in the ???? without their own Parliament ???? )

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I could hardly care less, other than that they should return the public money spent on them to date. 

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3 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Got some figures to back up that claim?  Didn't think so.

The money he's lost from the Sovereign Grant is around 100,00 a year or some 5% of his income.  His dad pays for his public duties and around 2.5 million from his dad's Duchy of Cornwall.  William get's the same.

The money his dad gives from his estates will continue.

The cost of security by both the UK government and the RCMP greatly exceed what the prince is giving up and is a necessary evil that he has no control over.

 

These figures are very easy to find, Just Weird.  There are no secrets.

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4 hours ago, phkauf said:

One of the greatest things America ever did was to tell these Royals to pee off nearly 250 years ago.

You really should read up on your own history.  I bet you are one of the people that think Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture is about the American war of 1812 which was referred to as 'The 2nd War of Independence'.  Of course, as most people know, it had nothing at all to do with the American war but with Russia's defeat of Napoleon.  

Love it when American's make up their own history.  Did you know that 'The Star Spangled Banner' is sung to the tune of an old English drinking song!

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7 hours ago, steve187 said:

how do you know it will cost millions for their security

where do you get those figure from - double

 

talking about security how much did the Uk spend on Assange, that was a total waste of money

 

I think they as a young family with children are doing the correct thing and getting to a country that has more scope for them, in their shoes i would do the same thing, all young families should think along the same lines, the Uk is not the place it once was.

Agree.  The media have got their knives out for Megan and they won't stop until they have driven the couple out or destroyed the marriage.  It looks like they are doing the only sensible thing for them and their son.  Harry knows what it is like growing up with the paparazzi hounding them everyday and quite rightly wants to protect his wife and more importantly his son from that pressure.

 

As for the security issue, well that is out of his hands to some extent, it is down to the palace to come up with the most practical way to deal with that.  In the future his father is funding him from the Duchy of Cornwall estate.  Given time I imagine the security bill will fall as Harry and his family settle into a more normal life in Canada.

 

Megan may, or may not turn out to be the best thing to happen to Harry but that is for him to decide, not us on an expats website in Asia.

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38 minutes ago, HHTel said:

So this is all about the red hair.  The Spencer family Jane and Sarah (Diana's sisters) both have red hair.  If you look at his grandfather, Prince Philip, he also had red hair in his younger days.  

Laugh all you like, but it's been explained many times.  Archie also has red hair and that's certainly not from his mother!

Whether Harry is Hewitt's son or not is really irrelevant.  Let's not kid ourselves that Harry doesn't know what the country says about his parentage, something the media have had a heyday with for years.  As far as I am concerned his work with the charities he supports puts him head and shoulders above many other members of the royal family.  The useless jackass Andrew being a prime example.

 

Let's be honest, apart the queen, the other members of the royal family have all come up short from time to time.

 

 

7 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Let's be honest, apart the queen, the other members of the royal family have all come up short from time to time.

Love the understatement ????

29 minutes ago, Opl said:

 

 

I am glad it has worked out this way. You are either  in and toe the line or out and you lose all the privileges.

 

You cannot run your life and expect others to jump to your tune of behaving like some Hollywood B actors, let's face it, that's the limits of her success, she was no Nicole Kidman!. That is not what the Royal family is about.

 

There also seems to be some resentment at the way William and Kate are viewed compared to Harry and Meghan. I think it is quite possible this is down to attitude and behavior. It has been stated that Kate and Meghan just do not get on.

 

Kate very much takes a regal approach and a back seat, in favour of William as future monarch, although their respect for each other is there for all to see. Meghan seems to prefer the driving seat, and brings with her all the diva baggage such as women's rights, feminist agendas, anti hunting, blaming any criticisms on her being biracial. etc implying it is a race thing!

 

When they first were getting married they were the toast of the nation.It has been their subsequent petulant behaviour why the press has turned on them.

 

It has been reports from inside with the palace, with whistle blowers stating how difficult Meghan was to get along with, her temper tantrums, her insistence of a private christening for the child shortly after all the public expense of their wedding, their wanting to ' direct ' the press as to what and was not allowed, that has alienated them to those in their royal circles. It was even suggested that future press coverage was to be limited to basically ' press conferences to favored newspapers only ' it was never going to fly.

 

Regards security, the people in the know were estimating a 1 million pound a year bill for security in Canada alone.

 

It is blindingly obvious they have not thought through their future relationship with the Royal family picking and choosing what they would do, and Harry thinking they could bully their way.

 

I am sure they can make a lot of money selling the Royal brand and reducing it to talk shows and tacky tell-alls on talk shows! After all Fergie, the ex-wife of disgraced Prince Andrew did it for long enough.

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3 hours ago, pegman said:

Going by many of these posts, by the TV Brit tabloid disciple's mob, Harry & fam have obviously made the right decision. A couple of books about life with mom, then a follow up screenplay and they will be rolling in cash. Most of us in Canada will welcome them with open arms. Just like past refugees from other s%~#,*<e  countries like the Syrians and Saudi girl. Says a lot about England  the way this combat vet was treated.

He was hardly a combat vet.

 

They let him fly around in a helicopter a few times and gave him a nice new shiny machine gun to play with but he was not allowed near any action.

 

But that was not his fault.

 

It would have been too much of a feather in the Taliban's turban if he had become a casualty.

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Oxx said:

Wonder how they can afford $3.1 million for refurbishing their "cottage".  Pretty sure the Army doesn't pay that well.

See post #11 by Scouse123.

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

Does that mean Charles will have to leave the UK after January 31st?

Charles has just entered his own world of pain as it's recently been revealed the extent of his complicity in the sex crimes against boys by the bishop Peter Ball, a long time friend of Charles who continued to support him after his initial conviction. He bought Ball a hose to live in. When the investigation was reopened Charles sent him a letter saying, " I've heard that this ghastly man (the original whistleblower and victim) was up to his dastardly tricks again. I'll see off this horrid man if he tries any of his tricks again" A clear promise to have done to the victim of sexual abuse by his bishop friend as he had done to his ex wife.

 

Our future head of the Royal family closing ranks behind the establishment to the detrement of the common people. Get rid of the lot of them.

34 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

When they first were getting married they were the toast of the nation.It has been their subsequent petulant behaviour why the press has turned on them.

Exactly.

26 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

He was hardly a combat vet.

 

They let him fly around in a helicopter a few times and gave him a nice new shiny machine gun to play with but he was not allowed near any action.

 

But that was not his fault.

 

It would have been too much of a feather in the Taliban's turban if he had become a casualty.

 

 

 

 

 

Did you serve with him in Afghanistan or know what he did there?

 

The reason that he was pulled out is here

 

https://www.forces.net/news//news/why-prince-harry-didnt-deploy-iraq-2007

 

His tour was cut short though when foreign websites broke a media blackout on reporting the details.

General Lord Dannatt remembers Harry grappling with the balancing act of being both a prince and a young Army officer.

"I can remember him sitting with a Gin and Tonic that I had given him, and shoulders slightly slumped, and he said the trouble is I’m not like another young man."

4 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

So I'm an American,...................................................................................some Royal UK Disneyland

 

 

Unlike the 1600 Pensyvania Ave. Disneyland?

 

3 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

I read that as they do still keep their titles, just cannot use those titles. Any time they want  they can return to the fold.

As I understand once British always British. You can try and leave but you can always go back.

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