I think it's time to go PM, if you start closing schools to tackle air pollution?

1 hour ago, TomJoad said:

Need another reason to hate smog?

A recent peer-reviewed study indicates that 30% of strokes worldwide are due to air pollution.   Tiny particles less than 2 microns are able to get from the lungs into the bloodstream, where they probably lodge in the linings of arteries and cause inflammation.  

 

Something to think about when you are on your way to pharmacy to stock up on your Sidegra

5 hours ago, webfact said:

We cannot simply put the blame on people and penalise all the polluters because the outcome of penalty measures will create other serious problems for society," Prayuth told reporters on Monday

Nero fiddles while Thailand burns! In other words, get used to it! Schools were also closed last year at exactly this time. Next year will be worse. They killed the golden goose with their greed. Thailand as a tourist destination is finished.

Edited January 22, 20206 yr by mickey rat

 

1 hour ago, Wiggy said:

5 hours ago, webfact said:

due to crop burning

Finally....the true cause is known. How long did that take?

How can you think it's only from crop burning. What about the garbage burning, burning trees (also leaves falling from trees), burning dry grass , aso...

10 hours ago, sucit said:

Aren't they more apt to be outside with the day off?

No they will be inside playing games or socializing on their "smart" phones, eating junk food from 711 or shopping (chop-bing bing) with their mother's at the mall just like they do on the weekends. 

10 hours ago, sucit said:

Kids are in classrooms most of the day. Aren't they more apt to be outside with the day off? Or is the theory they are coming from outside the city? The pollution levels have been about the same even outside the city. 

In most classrooms in government schools the windows are wide open all year (no AC) and the director has a new Mercedes with the latest in climate control features

Crop burning is the problem!

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LOLOLOLOLOL.   I feel bad for everyone who wanted to save money, find paradise, and every year they suffer from the death pollution and are too weak and tired to leave.

 

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19 minutes ago, tonray said:

In most classrooms in government schools the windows are wide open all year (no AC) and the director has a new Mercedes with the latest in climate control features

Exactly.  Instead of closing schools and making the kids stay at home/play outside and breathe in the bad air, why not provide properly sourced PM2.5 masks for all kids - free of charge -, install filtered a/c in schools, and air purifiers?  Wouldn't the cost be worth it?  Hmmm.

14 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Let's follow the logic here:

If closure for 1 or 2 days is going to help tackle the bad air quality, what's going to happen when the schools re-open?

For me, the bigger question is how does closing schools "Tackle" the air pollution problem??

Ok! so how does closing schools stop air pollution? 

 

This is more as being "seen " to be doing something , something that has no affect whatsoever on the pollution

 

Sorry did not read above post until now ....same question!

Edited January 22, 20206 yr by poohy

7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Exactly.  Instead of closing schools and making the kids stay at home/play outside and breathe in the bad air, why not provide properly sourced PM2.5 masks for all kids - free of charge -, install filtered a/c in schools, and air purifiers?  Wouldn't the cost be worth it?  Hmmm.

And cut the bosses income perks ?

Maybe and only maybe  if they could get funding and sufficient kickbacks then the product would be substandard 

schools (apart from indoctrination) are not important real  teaching isnt ia priority  in the grand scheme of things

Great - just what they want - less school, less education and you can get they won't forgo the flag saluting, nation according and other general nonsense to foster nationalism for at least 1 hour per day as prescribed by the Ministry if Miseducation.

 

All essentials to enable a stirring of the people to counter every mishap, corrupt sensation or acts of lunatic nepotism as finger pointing at thise exposing it are denounced as hurting Thailand. It is the biggest smoke up your ass national excuse in the world 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

While burning of crops in the first two months of the year is banned, little is being done to enforce it, and Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has expressed helplessness.

Sack the governors, after the first two or three have been removed you will see a change in attitudes!!!!

The whole country should shut down, government supplied masks and air purifiers for all citizens and tourists if the money bags have been too tempting for the government to take action. 

Its pretty hypocritical that the government wont let the LAW fix the situation and is happy to kill everyone in country areas by not letting their schools close. 

My wife asked my childs school yesterday in front of many people if it would be closing because the PM everymorning is over 200 which blows bkk away. They quickly said they cant answer the question and there has been no order from above, wouldnt ackowledge the pm number and my wife felt like she was going to be hurt for saying it. 

Thailand is a joke to the world right now. Everyone else wants a better life but thais government and a good percentage of the people wish the opposite.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has expressed helplessness.

Buy more tanks and patrol the sugar cane

Many, many years ago (I told you I was old) when we used to do visa train runs to Penang I went 2nd. class fan which had opening windows which were only closed at night. A couple of times I went during the burning season, it was like riding through the blitzcrieg! We all arrived in Butterworth looking like the cast from the Black and White minstrel show (told you I was old.) This burning is done all over South East Asia, until all the countries involved can come up with an effective solution nothing will, or can, change.

A imposter army government worst of all time promised police reforms but lied. This is a gift to Thai people. Remove these fleas 

The reading  near Pasak Chonlasit dam in Lopburi Province. Not near any town or main road but in the middle of an area with sugar cane fields. It is easy to stop the sugar cane burning by controlling the sugar cane factory.  If nobody will buy burnt sugar cane, it will not be burnt.  Help will initially be needed to ensure enough sugar cane harvesting companies are available.  Or, tax burnt sugar cane, and keep increasing the tax each year. Sugar cane burning and burning in general is one of the major factors in pollution.

Locally where the farmers have harvesting equipment they have been bailing the leaves the main ones burning are the ones cutting the cane by hand

3 minutes ago, Toany said:

The reading  near Pasak Chonlasit dam in Lopburi Province. Not near any town or main road but in the middle of an area with sugar cane fields. It is easy to stop the sugar cane burning by controlling the sugar cane factory.  If nobody will buy burnt sugar cane, it will not be burnt.  Help will initially be needed to ensure enough sugar cane harvesting companies are available.  Or, tax burnt sugar cane, and keep increasing the tax each year. Sugar cane burning and burning in general is one of the major factors in pollution.

The money prayut is spending on one submarine would buy enough harvesters to harvest the cane

36 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Sack the governors, after the first two or three have been removed you will see a change in attitudes!!!!

Start with doing away with the very top person then the ones under him might change if not get rid of them

1 hour ago, Borzandy said:

 

How can you think it's only from crop burning. What about the garbage burning, burning trees (also leaves falling from trees), burning dry grass , aso...

Ah yes , forgot that.   Why do the locals light fires on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere ?  They like smoke , burning dry leaves is ok but then they dump wet grass on the top .

 

43 minutes ago, Naamblar2014 said:

Buy more tanks and patrol the sugar cane

Not having blind eyes would help. Police on 'traffic duty' ignoring everything they see - from ancient factories using busses pumping out huge clouds of smoke even when idling to local fires clearing grass...

 

The fact is that this 'government' is just not really interested.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

But many farmers still resort to burning as it is cheaper than hiring workmen to cut stalks and collect leaves to prepare fields for the next planting.

 

Along with farmers, countless people burn their trash which includes toxic favorites such as plastics and spent batteries.

The government doesn't offer any alternatives or properly educate the people and laws are ignored because law enforcement is rare. 

Changes aren't likely but one thing is certain: officials will gather for photo ops, form committees to study the problem, and make giant vinyl pictorials to show at press events - SOP.

This does nothing to "tackle" air pollution. It does however protect the health of students, while at the same time hurting their education. 

 

Ban burning, and enforce it. Add strict standards for autos and bite the bullet, or suffer the consequences. Its simple. Thailand has the money to forge ahead, to lift their population. They are choosing a path, for better or worse, they are choosing. It is pure pretention, for the Gov to claim they don't know what to do, or haven't the means to act.

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Waiting for the 'TOURISTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID THAILAND FOR HEALTH REASONS', but I doubt they will publish it

That would be a hard one to try and hide.

15 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Let's follow the logic here:

If closure for 1 or 2 days is going to help tackle the bad air quality, what's going to happen when the schools re-open?

Farang tink too muchh...

12 hours ago, Yom said:

Useful or not. - But, what about the people in the north?

 

 

 

It is bad all over Thailand, almost all over SEA.

They don't care, if it kills off a few red shirts all the better...

1 hour ago, newnative said:

Spend some of that huge budget surplus on modern farm equipment.

Smartest comment here. This IS the solution. A policy that rewards for not burning will be far more effective then imposing penalties that are put out with a wink wink, that will never be enforced. Not to mention it would cause the baht to fall and aid exports.