robsamui Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, dallen52 said: Day by day the cases and deaths rise in China. Its stands to reason that Thailand and its popularity with Chinese tourists is going to show similar results. Suppose we are privileged to get some news. My thai is not in the least bit interested in it. Come to think about it, the locals are not in the least bit interested in anything that the government says, full stop... 18 hours ago, lemonjelly said: So the government, realizing that they haven’t the know how to deal with mass spread of Corvid-19 have chosen to keep vital information from the public to avoid panic and a drop in tourist numbers. We’ll probably only know how bad it is when we start seeing people mourning the loss of loved ones from pneumonia on Facebook. Martial law will be implemented, and Prayut (army) will take the roll as savior. Everyone seems to have completely forgotten about the governments ban on recording statistics. Of COURSE we're being lied to! On 4th February the government issued orders to stop all hospital recording CCov-19 details. Now it seems that the original address and the Ministry of Public Health is inaccessible. https://ddc./moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/situation.php Here is the last set of figures I could find when the govt stopped reporting the facts. Edited February 18, 2020 by robsamui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelM Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, robsamui said: 18 hours ago, lemonjelly said: So the government, realizing that they haven’t the know how to deal with mass spread of Corvid-19 have chosen to keep vital information from the public to avoid panic and a drop in tourist numbers. We’ll probably only know how bad it is when we start seeing people mourning the loss of loved ones from pneumonia on Facebook. Martial law will be implemented, and Prayut (army) will take the roll as savior. Everyone seems to have completely forgotten about the governments ban on recording statistics. Of COURSE we're being lied to! On 4th February the government issued orders to stop all hospital recording CCov-19 details. Now it seems that the original address and the Ministry of Public Health is inaccessible. https://ddc./moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/situation.php Here is the last set of figures I could find when the govt stopped reporting the facts. The correct adress is => https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/situation.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael54 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Its a shame the way the Thai government goes about this. They should follow Singapore which set a good example in terms of transparency with daily updates about the cases and each new case explained with the link from which cluster it came. But I suppose in Thailand their is neither the capacity in the government, not the political willingness to follow Singapore's example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 8 hours ago, saengd said: Malaysia, Vietnam, are they all lying too, is this an orchestrated lying event It doesn't require orchestration, they're doing what comes naturally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saengd Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Raphael54 said: Its a shame the way the Thai government goes about this. They should follow Singapore which set a good example in terms of transparency with daily updates about the cases and each new case explained with the link from which cluster it came. But I suppose in Thailand their is neither the capacity in the government, not the political willingness to follow Singapore's example. Sure, and Singapore with 75 cases and climbing has still yet to report a single fatality, that's a case load that is twice that of Thailand yet Thailand is supposedly covering things up and lying yet Singapore is transparent....how does that work then, could it be anti-Thailand bias is starting to show a tad!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 the Virus is extremely Intelligent, so the gubberment is employing extreme counter intelligence measures to try outwit the smart virus Plan #1: - hopefully denying it from seeing the Statistics of its success... this gloating virus is making them lose face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraggleRock Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Sweep it under the carpet, dollars are more important than health.... Edited February 18, 2020 by fraggleRock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieter1 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 the number of "confirmed" cases in china today is the same like yesterday. Am I the only one smelling something being fishy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 21 hours ago, smedly said: I have been saying this for a couple of weeks and IMO is the very wrong thing to do If they don't inform the public with honest accurate updates then they are creating a false and dangerous message that there is no problem in Thailand - A grave error If there is a serious outbreak in Thailand then the public need to be aware of it so they can increase protective measures they need to take. If Thailand continues on a course of telling people lies or not being open and honest about the state of the situation here - they will regret it, for all we know right now the situation could be as bad as China but Thailand are saying everything is fine The WHO need to get directly involved and tell these very stupid people just what could happen if they continue on this course .. Sadly, the WHO CARES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 10:06 AM, Redline said: Healthy people don’t just get pneumonia-if you had contact, get tested. Well they are not so young and they smoke heavily, so maybe the pneumonia is related to that. If I show any symptoms whatsoever I would test immediately. I am not too worried at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Guess we'll find out later who is correct. I hope it's not the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 hours ago, petedk said: Well they are not so young and they smoke heavily, so maybe the pneumonia is related to that. If I show any symptoms whatsoever I would test immediately. I am not too worried at the moment. It just so happens that I and several others in my extended Thai family recently consecutively suffered from an illness that by symptomatic definition could have been Corvid-19. It was probably one of the several influenza strains which can/and did demonstrate similar symptoms. Definitely not Corvid-19 duetothe fact that it had not yet been identified in Thailand at that time and being in a remote rural area with unlikely carriers would not have cause for suspicion. Should I follow the paranoid trend and make suggestions that somehow I/we were possibly infected in some isolated cluster of Corvid-19 ? Would that be outside the realm of some incredible bogus social media claims made and presented here on TVF ? 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) On 2/17/2020 at 7:54 PM, LivinLOS said: See they are sticking with the usual open honest transparency they are known for then. And the government wonders why increasingly rumors start cropping up and floating around that they're not being honest with the national numbers being reported by the MoPH out of Bangkok??? People's Exhibit No. 1 is the Phuket bureaucratic boob in the OP article here. Heaven forbid, Thailand might actually have a public health problem that would lead to even further erosion of its precious tourist dollars. Edited February 19, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) On 2/18/2020 at 4:36 PM, Raphael54 said: Its a shame the way the Thai government goes about this. They should follow Singapore which set a good example in terms of transparency with daily updates about the cases and each new case explained with the link from which cluster it came. But I suppose in Thailand their is neither the capacity in the government, not the political willingness to follow Singapore's example. Here's some comparison between the way different countries report their CV data -- Thailand, the U.S. CDC and Malaysia, just as examples (and the charts below are from different dates, so they're not directly comparable, except in HOW the data are being reported. The issues with the Thai reporting include: --Among those hospitalized, they never disclose what share of patients have had negative CV test results vs. what share of patients haven't yet been tested at all or are awaiting their test results. --They rarely provide any consistent location information about where the confirmed or suspected CV cases came from locally when first identified at hospitals here, or about where the confirmed cases or suspected cases are being treated as inpatients. Thus making it very hard to know where, other than Bangkok, actual CV cases have occurred/originated from. In contrast, the U.S. breaks down their confirmed CV cases by state (not shown in my excerpt below), and also the positive/negative/awaiting test results breakdown, whereas Malaysia provides the same positive/negative/pending breakdown and then further identifies the cases by broad nationality listings. Thailand: US CDC: Malaysia: Edited February 19, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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