Trump considering full pardon for ex-adviser Michael Flynn

[Crazy Alex]

4 minutes ago, Brian Allen said:

.... Mueller's "investigation" detailed Moscow's interference in the 2016 U.S. election "to boost President Trump's candidacy," as well as "numerous contacts between Trump's campaign and Russia" ....

 

What utter rubbish. Despite that it knew what it would "find" even before it began its attempt to procure President Trump's malicious prosecution, Mueller's Mob spent two years and more than Forty-Five-Million Dollars to come up with ZERO crimes involving the corruptly-criminally concocted allegations against candidate and then President Trump. Mueller's Mob was part of the "democrats'" Deep State's attempted coup. An effort to reverse the results of the 2016 election and to deny We, The (Sovereign, American,) People our right to elect the government of our choice. 

 

As for Mr Flynn's hounding, blackmailing, standing-over and shaking-down and false prosecution, it's important to note that then General Flynn was employed for YEARS by the Obama Mob -- and, before being fired by it, 45 days peripheral to Mr Trump's crew.

BAM!!! These leftists seem to forget that Weissman, er, Mueller didn't find any evidence of collusion. On the contrary, they found the Trump campaign rebuffed Russian advances in that regard. These people have been left clinging to the Mueller report saying they couldn't exonerate Trump. Obviously, this is in direct conflict of the concept of innocent until proven guilty. And that assumption can never be clearer than after an investigation that failed. And yes, the investigation wasn't about finding the truth, it was specifically to GET TRUMP. Everyone knows this.

 

Now with regards to Flynn, GET TRUMP included going after anyone associated with Trump and making sure people understand that in the future, the swamp will stop at nothing to prevent an outsider from breaking up the party.

[Crazy Alex]

 

26 minutes ago, candide said:

You are free to speculate as much as you want.

 

It is not unbelievable that investigators may sometimes be negligent with documents that do not relate to the actual charges.

 

Fact is that the lost documents were not relevant and could not clear him. Trump's fake news once more.

By the way, more details on Fox News website.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-memo-cleared-flynn-of-being-russian-agent-but-its-missing-flynn-attorneys-say

I gotta say, you almost had me! I did some reading up on this case to refresh my memory. The FBI's investigation into Flynn started with questioning Flynn on his dealings with Russia. So yes, those documents are absolutely relevant. Fruit of the poisonous tree. That was slick. I'm gonna have to keep a closer eye on you.  ????

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/23/mueller-investigation-question-why-so-many-aides-lied-protect-trump/3230200002/

 

 

[Kelsall]

Trump should pardon Flynn right now, in the middle of COVID-19, and force the media to make a decision on what to cover.

Edited March 16, 2020 by Kelsall

[Crazy Alex]

5 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Trump should pardon Flynn right now, in the middle of COVID-19, and force the media to make a decision on what to cover.

LOVE IT!!!! Then wait a week and pardon Papadopoulos. One swamp crusade victim every week or two. The entertainment value alone.

[WalkingOrders]

6 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

The country is fighting a pandemic and The Chaos Family is concerned about what gangster friends they can pardon. Priceless. 

General Flynn is an American Patriot.

[Crazy Alex]

6 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

The country is fighting a pandemic and The Chaos Family is concerned about what gangster friends they can pardon. Priceless. 

OK, so given we are fighting a pandemic, you are stating you focus solely on coronavirus and will refrain from discussing other issues. That's what you're expecting Trump to do, so why should we expect any different from you? And given you're not even president, it should be much easier for you to focus on just one issue, right?

Edited March 16, 2020 by Crazy Alex

[candide]

22 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

 

I gotta say, you almost had me! I did some reading up on this case to refresh my memory. The FBI's investigation into Flynn started with questioning Flynn on his dealings with Russia. So yes, those documents are absolutely relevant. Fruit of the poisonous tree. That was slick. I'm gonna have to keep a closer eye on you.  ????

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/23/mueller-investigation-question-why-so-many-aides-lied-protect-trump/3230200002/

 

 

Where is it written in this article that Flynn is currently accused of being a Russian agent?

"The government has not alleged in any filings in this court or before the court that the defendant is an agent of Russia. That is not part of this case. That is not part of the act that he has pled guilty to. It was lying to the FBI about particular communications involving Russia, not being an agent of Russia," prosecutor Brandon Van Grack said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-memo-cleared-flynn-of-being-russian-agent-but-its-missing-flynn-attorneys-say

 

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

The rule of law was broken when the FBI lied to him and said he was not under investigation, told him that he did not need counsel and then used underhanded questioning and doctored transcripts to pressure him into his plea.

 Indeed. But notice how the pro socialist democrat posters mock your pointing this out. They believe people with the "wrong political views" can be got at however. The left always believe the end justifies the means. As long as they're not on the receiving end. In which case they squeal like stuck pigs.

[Redline]

10 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

The country is fighting a pandemic and The Chaos Family is concerned about what gangster friends they can pardon. Priceless. 

Wanabe gangsters.  I'm curious if the Mexican drug lords go after him a few years after he leaves

Edited March 16, 2020 by Redline

[candide]

4 hours ago, Brian Allen said:

.... Mueller's "investigation" detailed Moscow's interference in the 2016 U.S. election "to boost President Trump's candidacy," as well as "numerous contacts between Trump's campaign and Russia" ....

 

What utter rubbish. Despite that it knew what it would "find" even before it began its attempt to procure President Trump's malicious prosecution, Mueller's Mob spent two years and more than Forty-Five-Million Dollars to come up with ZERO crimes involving the corruptly-criminally concocted allegations against candidate and then President Trump. Mueller's Mob was part of the "democrats'" Deep State's attempted coup. An effort to reverse the results of the 2016 election and to deny We, The (Sovereign, American,) People our right to elect the government of our choice. 

 

As for Mr Flynn's hounding, blackmailing, standing-over and shaking-down and false prosecution, it's important to note that then General Flynn was employed for YEARS by the Obama Mob -- and, before being fired by it, 45 days peripheral to Mr Trump's crew.

Complete B.S. conspiracy theory.

[Crazy Alex]

6 hours ago, candide said:

Where is it written in this article that Flynn is currently accused of being a Russian agent?

"The government has not alleged in any filings in this court or before the court that the defendant is an agent of Russia. That is not part of this case. That is not part of the act that he has pled guilty to. It was lying to the FBI about particular communications involving Russia, not being an agent of Russia," prosecutor Brandon Van Grack said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-memo-cleared-flynn-of-being-russian-agent-but-its-missing-flynn-attorneys-say

 

Oh no you don't! How an investigation started is ALWAYS relevant. I know that having relied on some phony *whistleblower*, you liberals want to pretend it doesn't matter. But it does. The spirit, if not the letter of the law in American justice dictates a legitimate reason to begin an investigation. If it turns out Russia was just an excuse to go after Flynn, that would leave a lot of rotten fruit to get thrown out. And of course there is going to be back tracking about why Flynn was questioned about Russia. That's why the documents are relevant. And that's also likely why they *disappeared*.

[candide]

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

Oh no you don't! How an investigation started is ALWAYS relevant. I know that having relied on some phony *whistleblower*, you liberals want to pretend it doesn't matter. But it does. The spirit, if not the letter of the law in American justice dictates a legitimate reason to begin an investigation. If it turns out Russia was just an excuse to go after Flynn, that would leave a lot of rotten fruit to get thrown out. And of course there is going to be back tracking about why Flynn was questioned about Russia. That's why the documents are relevant. And that's also likely why they *disappeared*.

Nice try. If, if, if....

 

How does the rather long article you linked support your claim? Could you please quote what supports your claim in this article? What supports your claim that (1) the missing documents are related to the way the investigation into Flynn was predicated and that (2), as they cannot be produced, the investigation would not be properly predicated?

Edited March 16, 2020 by candide

[metisdead]

A troll post and the replies have been removed. 

[UbonThani]

He said she said

Ridiculous

[geriatrickid]

13 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Really? What has General Flynn done to deserve that epithet?

His criminal conduct.

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

His criminal conduct.

You mean a nebulous process crime makes one a "gangster"....got it.

[Crazy Alex]

2 hours ago, candide said:

Nice try. If, if, if....

 

How does the rather long article you linked support your claim? Could you please quote what supports your claim in this article? What supports your claim that (1) the missing documents are related to the way the investigation into Flynn was predicated and that (2), as they cannot be produced, the investigation would not be properly predicated?

Thanks for writing out why we need the documents in question. I think I'll just sit back and let you keep typing.

[Nyezhov]

33 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

I think I'll just sit back and let you keep typing.

Im sort of curious how the "Government Can Do No Wrong" crowd analyzes this:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/13/prosecutors-dodge-michael-flynns-best-arguments-attempt-to-hide-evidence/

[candide]

11 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Thanks for writing out why we need the documents in question. I think I'll just sit back and let you keep typing.

Thanks for confirming that you have nothing more than a vague and unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.

[Crazy Alex]

12 minutes ago, candide said:

Thanks for confirming that you have nothing more than a vague and unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.

When it comes to the US Justice system and government prosecutors, I need nothing more. *Losing* documents related to how the crusade began is a big deal to those of us who are not fans of Soviet-style show trials and phony prosecutions. Thanks for the opportunity to point that out to you.

[metisdead]

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