18 months of pandemic pain ahead, warns govt panel

[Mung]

7 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Off topic but interesting.

I read an article yesterday about Google, effectively blocking any content on YouTube about Bitcoin. That got my attention...

Seems it has been going on for a while. I wonder why Google don't want people viewing videos about Bitcoin ??

governments and central banks really dislike the idea of cryptocurrency. They cannot trace it and it stands alone from fiat currencies. I was reading an article by somebody who has been in the crypto space since the beginning, and their predictions were that governments will soon create their own coins, and those coins will replace fiat currency as well as removing all cash. These coins will be highly traceable and monitored, and other coins such as Bitcoin and alt coins will be discounted and or illegal to use  

Edited May 9, 2020 by Mung

[Krataiboy]

7 hours ago, izod10 said:

The 18 months have not even started,when the green flag is shown ,and that will not be so for years to come,only then can people come out of the dark. 

   Years of this misery in store

It's being so cheerful what keeps me going.

[transam]

Reads like they just found something to do...........

 

Strange how dog packs still roam the streets of LOS and folk die from rabies..Nothing ever done about that.

Road carnage, nothing ever done about that..

Children riding and dying on motorbikes, nothing ever done about that....

 

 

[cornishcarlos]

1 minute ago, Mung said:

governments and central banks really dislike the idea of cryptocurrency. They cannot trace it and it stands alone from fiat currencies. I was reading an article by somebody who has been in the crypto space since the beginning, and their predictions were that governments will soon create their own coins, and those coins will replace fiat currency as well as removing all cash. These coins will be highly traceable and monitored, and other coins such as Bitcoin and alt coins will be discounts and or illegal to use  

 

There will always be a black market though... Thankfully ????

[bangrak]

Wouldn't the main interest of that "government panel" be to "prepare the Vaseline" for the public before pushing (well...) through 18 more months of total power for the dictator?

[onekoolguy]

8 hours ago, izod10 said:

The 18 months have not even started,when the green flag is shown ,and that will not be so for years to come,only then can people come out of the dark. 

   Years of this misery in store

You are not a tree. If you don't like the conditions where you are, you can always move?

[cornishcarlos]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Reads like they just found something to do...........

 

Strange how dog packs still roam the streets of LOS and folk die from rabies..Nothing ever done about that.

Road carnage, nothing ever done about that..

Children riding and dying on motorbikes, nothing ever done about that....

 

 

 

Have you not been reading the different threads ??

Those deaths don't count, as they are not "exponential" !! 

[wensiensheng]

Absent a vaccine, this guy seems to talk a lot of sense. Much more so than the nonsense being talked by USA administration officials.

[transam]

1 minute ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Have you not been reading the different threads ??

Those deaths don't count, as they are not "exponential" !! 

Gawd, will have to google that...............????

[wensiensheng]

10 minutes ago, Youlike said:

 

 

In other EU countries they found out that this year they had less total deads than in previous years....

 

 

 

 

Please provide the link that confirms this. IMHO it is complete baloney.

[cornishcarlos]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Gawd, will have to google that...............????

 

I had to as well ????

[transam]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

Please provide the link that confirms this. IMHO it is complete baloney.

I read somewhere that UK normal death figures are down, you can glooooooogle that stuff....????

[brain150]

4 minutes ago, onekoolguy said:

You are not a tree. If you don't like the conditions where you are, you can always move?

You mean the millions of people suffering in Thailand ?

Your statement implies that you like Governments that destroy their economy, making people <deleted> poor and

having nothing to eat ? That's the country you want to live in ?

 

Or would it be more reasonable and responsible to point to the truth, the problems and the cause of the problem ?

If the people allow this Government to rule for another 6 month then they will lose EVERYTHING and get to

a point where recovery will take decades ! ... all this nightmare is caused by Government action based on a FAKE Pandemic !

 

... the FAKE Pandemic is proven from Doctors and Scientists all around the world by now !

Even Government statistics show that there is and never was a Pandemic.

[phantomfiddler]

They say it has been a very bad year for apples ! Hey, if you can jump from Covid to Bitcoin, why not ? and everyone should be issued a banjo at birth ????

[lucjoker]

7 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Off topic but interesting.

I read an article yesterday about Google, effectively blocking any content on YouTube about Bitcoin. That got my attention...

Seems it has been going on for a while. I wonder why Google don't want people viewing videos about Bitcoin ??

I am in Spain, no censoring here,

bitcoin up 32,0373% in 1 month.

But maybe - 30% next week ? It's gambling.

[tonysilly]

So much for being positive.. stop with the negative <deleted>!!! Thailand has done a good job with the pandemic.  Let's hope people will lower flights, hotel and good customer service.  This should be shouted to all.  Do not take tourist for granted.  Let's bounce back.  You,  who wrote this should write a positive artical. That's if you  know how to???. 

[DrTuner]

The pain will continue as long as there is no democratic reform. It's not about the virus, it's about efficient form of government. So, I predict it'll be at least 300 years or so for Thailand.

[Venom]

8 hours ago, baansgr said:

Yet those same people that scream about Government control and spying on citizens.....are constantly on Facebook 24/7..

Nope, actually those are not the same people. You are confused, next you'll be telling us that inversely people that are not "constantly on Facebook" don't care about compulsory government tracking and surveillance. 

[tandor]

9 hours ago, mr mr said:

i fear the 2nd wave will kill a massive 67 people in thailand. you know like a regular day of car accident deaths.

that tsunami...was a really big wave..would take some beating..lets hope and resurgence of this virus is just a ripple.

[ukrules]

7 hours ago, Yinn said:

200,000 westerner die. 50 thai die.

But, you still come on TVF everyday to criticize and mock thailand.

That right there is the fuel for 100's of conspiracy theories, China and the countries which kiss its ass on a regular basis have very few casualties.

 

How did they manage this?

 

It's almost like it was deliberate.

 

When people look back on this entire episode in a few years time certain things will become obvious which aren't so obvious right now as it's all unfolding.

 

[marqus12]

In my country, funeral homes are going bankrupt.
Really terrifying virus!!!

[Baerboxer]

9 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

Just more scare tactics to make the population more compliant, or try to anyway.. Next they will try to introduce some form of tracking, justified by a possible 2nd wave. 

Australia are saying that the quicker people sign up to be tracked, the sooner restrictions will be relaxed.

Singapore are trying the same with the added bonus of dongles for people, without smartphones, to carry when out.

Anyone who still thinks governments aren't using this virus as an excuse to expand control really needs to open their eyes....

 

Interesting that this virus occurred at a time when people in very many well established "developed first world" nations were showing high displeasure at their governments and politicians.

 

Just a coincidence? We'll never know.

[Baerboxer]

2 minutes ago, ukrules said:

That right there is the fuel for 100's of conspiracy theories, China and the countries which kiss its ass on a regular basis have very few casualties.

 

How did they manage this?

 

It's almost like it was deliberate.

 

When people look back on this entire episode in a few years time certain things will become obvious which aren't so obvious right now as it's all unfolding.

 

 

That's all very true. And we might all get some surprises as what comes out when things do unfold.

[cornishcarlos]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Interesting that this virus occurred at a time when people in very many well established "developed first world" nations were showing high displeasure at their governments and politicians.

 

Just a coincidence? We'll never know.

 

A coincidence that has been jumped on as an excuse, that's might take on it... 

[Baerboxer]

58 minutes ago, brain150 said:

You mean the millions of people suffering in Thailand ?

Your statement implies that you like Governments that destroy their economy, making people <deleted> poor and

having nothing to eat ? That's the country you want to live in ?

 

Or would it be more reasonable and responsible to point to the truth, the problems and the cause of the problem ?

If the people allow this Government to rule for another 6 month then they will lose EVERYTHING and get to

a point where recovery will take decades ! ... all this nightmare is caused by Government action based on a FAKE Pandemic !

 

... the FAKE Pandemic is proven from Doctors and Scientists all around the world by now !

Even Government statistics show that there is and never was a Pandemic.

 

So the world has conspired to pretend there's a fake pandemic just so the Thai government can collapse their own economy to starve their own citizens??

 

Okay, whatever substance(s) your abusing, stop. And seek professional help very soon.

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

Surely the big worry is that once tourism starts up again there's a major risk that the more deadly and aggressive form of the virus that has wrought havoc in Europe and the eastern US might get a foothold in Thailand.

That all depends on whether the virus that swept across Thailand from December - January grants immunity to future strains, it may well do but there's only one way to find out and that's to wait and see.

 

[elliss]

10 hours ago, mr mr said:

i fear the 2nd wave will kill a massive 67 people in thailand. you know like a regular day of car accident deaths.

 

Another Alcohol ban soon . Rip.

 

 

[miamiman123]

This 18 months just the start.... Thailand is done 

well done 

[natway09]

This country has now so much tourism related structure to it that sooner or later we need overseas 

tourists, (not so much for the country to survive but the investors in this sector screaming) ,,, but from where ?, UK, China, USA, Canada, Italy, Spain, Indonesia, Africa etc, etc,,, there is not much left.

I see tourism dead for the next 6 months & if they do open the door, could expose themselves to a huge 2nd wave which may engulf the country .

Terrible choice to make 

[Phil1975]

10 hours ago, bodga said:

Where?

Global fatality rate is 7.7%

 

Per country the death rate varies from 0.25 to c. 12%.

 

Source: https://www.biospectrumasia.com/news/83/15738/covid-19-the-current-case-fatality-rate-globally-.html

 

Also different countries log data / deaths differently, some will register someone who died of a heart attack but had COVID they log it as a COVID death which is highly debatable if the heart condition was pre existing. So the global death rates are at least in part including deaths of people with pre existing medial conditions. Italy, having the second highest deaths in Europe has stated >99% of deaths were people with pre existing medical complaints.

 

So the number that everyone wants to know, the death rate for normal fit / healthy people of working age is rather impossible to know. However we can deduce that it is lower than 7.7%, globally. Likely significantly lower.