Baerboxer Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, gunderhill said: Am more of a Reg Prescott fan myself Admit it, you fancied Cupid Stunt, didn't you 555? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Baerboxer said: Ah yes, he's reading Mein Kampf. That was the only book left after the burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, Baerboxer said: Admit it, you fancied Cupid Stunt, didn't you 555? I've always been a cupid stunt.......................fan! Oh Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, gunderhill said: And what about King Dong exploiting all those white women in the 70's 80's Ah, they're white. So that's seemingly o k. Especially if your're in a gang in Northern England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Admit it, you fancied Cupid Stunt, didn't you 555? Yes, but only in the best possible taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, MikeN said: And then they will all be black and white. I'm sure that would be offensive to somebody. Perhaps they should all be in 50 Shades of Grey ? Or 50 shades of gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolitian Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, ballpoint said: I have one, her name is Black Coffee aka 'Koffee' . Her puppy name was Nongdaam. 3 hours ago, Kasset Tak said: Charlie and the chocolate factory should be next, they are exploiting African (or if it's South American...) midgets Nope.. The current American president color comes closer to their. So they must be American (the one with the States) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Another one for the chop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 And what about the Catholic Church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 6:14 AM, snoop1130 said: Set during and after the American Civil War, Gone with the Wind has long been attacked for its depiction of slavery. Wonder what part of slavery they got wrong? Will 'Roots' also be shelved? Where does it stop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolitian Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The black man was always a part of my team, the A-TEAM. Although, never called him black man but the mohawk man, ' I have his phone number and will call him to beat the living out of you ' was what I said when preteens like me tried to show off, which they believed. Used the stereotype pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolitian Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 From: SNL Season 8, episode 2. Aired in 1982. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 This is ridiculous! The whole political correctness thing in the US is completely getting out of hand! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 11 hours ago, pacovl46 said: This is ridiculous! The whole political correctness thing in the US is completely getting out of hand! Are you an HBOmax subcriber? If so, maybe consider canceling your subscription in protest? For the record, HBOmax will simply be re-contextualizing GWTW as TCM has been doing with GWTW and other period films since 1979. AFAIK, it will be re-introduced in the near future. In the meantime, I imagine you could download it legally from any number of pay sites. I remember seeing it as a child in the 60's and though it was a bit cringe-worthy even then. It would have been nice if Hattie McDaniel had been treated with respect at the Oscars? She and her escort were required to sit at a segregated table for two at the far wall of the room; her white agent, William Meiklejohn, sat at the same table. The hotel had a strict no-blacks policy, but allowed McDaniel in as a favor.[34][35] The discrimination continued after the award ceremony as well as her white costars went to a "no-blacks" club, where McDaniel was also denied entry. Another black woman did not win an Oscar again for 50 years, with Whoopi Goldberg winning Best Supporting Actress for her role in Ghost.[36] Weeks prior to McDaniel winning her Oscar, there was even more controversy. David Selznick, the producer of Gone With the Wind, omitted the faces of all the black actors on the posters advertising the movie in the South. None of the black cast members, including Hattie McDaniel, were even allowed to attend the premiere for the movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattie_McDaniel#:~:text=1940 Academy Awards,-The Twelfth Academy&text=Hattie McDaniel earned that gold,in Gone with the Wind.&text=The discrimination continued after the,McDaniel was also denied entry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: Are you an HBOmax subcriber? If so, maybe consider canceling your subscription in protest? For the record, HBOmax will simply be re-contextualizing GWTW as TCM has been doing with GWTW and other period films since 1979. AFAIK, it will be re-introduced in the near future. In the meantime, I imagine you could download it legally from any number of pay sites. I remember seeing it as a child in the 60's and though it was a bit cringe-worthy even then. It would have been nice if Hattie McDaniel had been treated with respect at the Oscars? Shades of Jesse Owens... Edited June 12, 2020 by Odysseus123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 BBC Iplayer has removed the German episode from Fawlty Towers, so have Netflix and Britbox. Now they mess with John Clesse? As a German, I loved Fawlty Towers. Baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobe Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Logosone said: BBC Iplayer has removed the German episode from Fawlty Towers, so have Netflix and Britbox. Now they mess with John Clesse? As a German, I loved Fawlty Towers. Baffling. I agree, that crosses the line The point of Fawlty Towers was that it was satire and skewered the British preponderance for harking back to WW11, maybe the slapping of Manuel all the time was a bit much though. Similarly the brilliant comedy Allo' Allo' skewered all of the characters, German, French and British - and was in itself a satire on an earlier program. So keep the satire Not all humour is satire though, and the racial epithets strewn around in "love thy neighbour" just for comic effect now sound cringeworthy And it is true that Gone with the Wind glorified the myth of southern hospitality and the happy black plantation workers - in itself fake news and revisionism - so I am not sorry to see these go. I am all for understanding history, satirising the inequities that arose, but not for glorifying them with statues and monuments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, crobe said: I agree, that crosses the line The point of Fawlty Towers was that it was satire and skewered the British preponderance for harking back to WW11, maybe the slapping of Manuel all the time was a bit much though. Similarly the brilliant comedy Allo' Allo' skewered all of the characters, German, French and British - and was in itself a satire on an earlier program. So keep the satire Not all humour is satire though, and the racial epithets strewn around in "love thy neighbour" just for comic effect now sound cringeworthy And it is true that Gone with the Wind glorified the myth of southern hospitality and the happy black plantation workers - in itself fake news and revisionism - so I am not sorry to see these go. I am all for understanding history, satirising the inequities that arose, but not for glorifying them with statues and monuments The standard should not be "does it satirise, is it racist, is it offensive"....the standard should be "Is it funny?" And Fawlty Towers was, at the time, one of the funniest things on TV. It was just very good. Same with "Allo Allo". I'm German, but I can appreciate both because they were very good comedies in their day. Yes, of course they aged somewhat now. But to take down something like "Gone with the Wind", by many considered the best film ever made, and by most one of the best films ever made, is frankly akin to the cultural destruction of the Taleban. Films and comedy are entertainment. Entertainment should not have to conform to narrow moralism. Art has to be free. Much better than tearing down monuments would have been to build monuments to famous Black and Asian people in history. Much better than taking down an episode of Fawlty Towers would have been to produce a documentary of the suffering of the German civilian population in WWII. When did you last see that on BBC? But of course destruction and censorship are so much easier. Edited June 12, 2020 by Logosone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 22 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Are you an HBOmax subcriber? If so, maybe consider canceling your subscription in protest? For the record, HBOmax will simply be re-contextualizing GWTW as TCM has been doing with GWTW and other period films since 1979. AFAIK, it will be re-introduced in the near future. In the meantime, I imagine you could download it legally from any number of pay sites. I remember seeing it as a child in the 60's and though it was a bit cringe-worthy even then. It would have been nice if Hattie McDaniel had been treated with respect at the Oscars? She and her escort were required to sit at a segregated table for two at the far wall of the room; her white agent, William Meiklejohn, sat at the same table. The hotel had a strict no-blacks policy, but allowed McDaniel in as a favor.[34][35] The discrimination continued after the award ceremony as well as her white costars went to a "no-blacks" club, where McDaniel was also denied entry. Another black woman did not win an Oscar again for 50 years, with Whoopi Goldberg winning Best Supporting Actress for her role in Ghost.[36] Weeks prior to McDaniel winning her Oscar, there was even more controversy. David Selznick, the producer of Gone With the Wind, omitted the faces of all the black actors on the posters advertising the movie in the South. None of the black cast members, including Hattie McDaniel, were even allowed to attend the premiere for the movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattie_McDaniel#:~:text=1940 Academy Awards,-The Twelfth Academy&text=Hattie McDaniel earned that gold,in Gone with the Wind.&text=The discrimination continued after the,McDaniel was also denied entry. I’m not a subscriber and most likely never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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