3 hours ago, colinneil said:

New evidence, more BS, all they are trying to do is get themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves.

I am afraid they plan to make it look like they trie to make justice now and after some time when it is out of the public focus silently just "forget" it. But I hope they cannot do this anymore with the students waking up and wide spread internet and social media. May new times arrive.

1 hour ago, tomauasia said:

Will the committee look into audits of the existing super wealthy generals 

Not unless they want to die in a motorbike accident in Chiang Mai, or have their Mercedes riddled with bullets while in a massage parlour in Bangkok.

 

They dropped all charges thinking everyone would forget about it in a week as per usual here but when that didn’t happen they scrambled buying “new” witnesses claiming this spoiled rich brat was not at fault. Now they realize that’s not going to do it either so they’re going to try to appease the public by charging him with drug use and speeding.  ThIs way they can claim justice was done he will pay for these crimes.  The problem is they’re not fooling anyone.  He will not pay for his crimes because he is protected by a very wealthy family so they may as well just come out and say it.  It’s the way it has always been here.  What a complete circus.  You would have to be a moron to believe all this <deleted> they are spewing.

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

So the very very obvious question why wasn't he charged with having cocaine in his system right at the very start?

 

 

the Tests gave a false Pepsi reading instead 

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

So the very very obvious question why wasn't he charged with having cocaine in his system right at the very start?

 

 

I think he was, but the statute of limitations on that expired after 5 years

 

There was only one charge that had a limitation till 2027

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53649421?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world&link_location=live-reporting-story

 

Thailand's attorney general has ordered a new investigation into the heir to the Red Bull energy drink fortune over the hit-and-run killing of a policeman.

 

Prosecutors said new evidence showed that Vorayuth Yoovidhaya was driving much faster than first believed and might have had cocaine in his system, allowing them to reopen the case.

 

It comes after previous charges were dropped last month, sparking outrage.

 

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

True of course, but if there was a 'trial by public discussion' of the unethical aspects of this case (and others) and that trial by public discussion forced the government/police/judiciary to become much more professional, much more balanced and push towards proper process and fair judgments maybe things might change..

 

But is the Thai public ready to become loud enough to start a 'trial by public discussion'?

 

No clear answer but I'm getting the feeling that the PM realizes that things can't continue like they have been and realizes that it's time to listen to the forward party, the students etc. 

 

But is there another 'player' pushing the PM?

 

 

Yes I completely agree lets hope but can't see the Old Dinosaurs listening to the Students especially not the Generals even today they have to prostrate to Teachers.
Yes but who?

11 hours ago, scorecard said:

So the very very obvious question why wasn't he charged with having cocaine in his system right at the very start?

 

 

Unfortunately, the answer is also very obvious.

9 hours ago, ukrules said:

This I doubt very much. Hitting a bike at that speed would not result in it being wedged under the bumper and upright with minimal damage, it would be launched into the air like an aircraft taking off.

Except that the bike was also travelling in the same direction at an unknown velocity. If, for example we assume 80kmh the differential speed is about 90kmh and as with a stationary impact, the energy to accelerate a body into motion is different along with the reaction of the bike from the impact force.

13 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Any chance the investigators could investigate the investigators who where investigating, Oh forget it

That would require professional, honest and fearless investigators, as you said forget it.

I for one hope the case goes on for years.......it is one of the best Thai comedy routines I have ever read...keeps me smiling and laughing all the time.....????????????????????????????????????

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by chicowoodduck
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15 hours ago, colinneil said:

New evidence, more BS, all they are trying to do is get themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves.

Yes, however the reality is that also put on open/public display, for all Thais and foreigners to see, their own inept, unprofessional and unethical ways.  The RTP should be shut down and replaced by a team of proven to be ethical army officers (and they do exist), and this team tasked with identifying the good cops and elevating them as appropriate to form a NEW RTP.

 

Not easy but this type of action has been taken before. Forty years ago the custome department of a nearby country was totally out of control, the government negotiated for a large team of customs people to come to xxxx for 10 years. The country totally closed their customs department and the new team moved in supported by police from their home county.  Police from the foreign country also formed a team to investigated alleged rogue local customs officers, and many were charged and jailed.

 

Meanwhile the nearby country started a new customs department, all previous members totally barred etc etc.

 

It worked. 

Previously, the speed of Vorayuth's Ferrari at the time of the accident was allegedly 80 kph (50 mph) but Prayut said, according to an expert opinion not previously included in the police report, the speed was closer to 170 kph (105 mph).

 

"This is new evidence according to the law."

 

 

 

Expert opinion is new evidence. 555

Even if he somehow manages to wriggle out of the main charges, he should be done for missing eight (R) eight summonses. That indicates to me that this goit is convinced of his "above the law" standing. If you or I missed one summons, the police would be on us like a ton of bricks.

Edited August 5, 20205 yr by jesimps

New evidence? Didn’t they investigate before?

16 hours ago, petedk said:

He must have had sticky/faulty brakes. Slow, fast, slow depending on where he was seen and who saw him.

ABS not working ?

16 hours ago, greeneking said:

Investigate the initial investigation team to see if any show signs of unreasonable wealth gathered in the last 8 years.

Would absolutely never happen.

17 hours ago, dcsw53 said:

The Investigation Committee will re-open the case.

Attorney General will close it as he has no case to answer ( obviously ).
We carry on as before, what other conclusion could there be ? We live in Thailand, money does not talk, it shouts.

 ... it shouts controls

16 hours ago, anterian said:

Only a lengthy prison term will restore some level of trust in the Thai justice system. 

or a month as a monk after shaving his head...far more likely

The only thing these tools are going to investigate is how to pull themselves out of the hole with the least amount damage to themselves. In other words, more lies.

 

16 hours ago, colinneil said:

New evidence, more BS, all they are trying to do is get themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves.

No,,  it is not about new evidence

The price went up beause people complain..More people need to get paid off.

SO it might cost thefamily more than 20Million baht to  buy off the whole corrupt governemt, the judicial systen and much more police force

 

 

22 minutes ago, malt25 said:

ABS not working ?

But ATM works OK. 

I believe that over these last eight years, the family have known his movements and whereabouts.

 

Even if this case is reopened, we'll here the same words, 'where is Boss'?

 

And so it continues.

11 hours ago, tifino said:

the Tests gave a false Pepsi reading instead 

No no no, it  was red bull masking the coke, seems it might have some use. 

17 minutes ago, tonray said:

or a month as a monk after shaving his head...far more likely

bunch of <deleted>... it wil make the public happy, the price of innocence went way up

Welcom to thailand corrupt system..

 

I lije the part that they cannot find him,..Well it is easy just cancel his passport, he will come out of his hole like a hungry rat.

 

Are we so stupid to beleive that a jetsetter brat boy will live underground for that long..

I thin he is in thailand locked in a hotel with a harem of 20 girls ready for action (sex) ...just like somebody we know

That is what thai people understand MONEY AND SEX

Just reckless driving? Regardless of the speed in question? he hit the motorbike then drag it for some distance and here is the big one LEFT THE SCENE!  HIT AND RUN DOES APPLY EVEN IN THAILAND.

Doesn't this kind of car have software that would give a readout of exactly what the car was doing when it crashed ?

 

16 hours ago, bluesofa said:

 

I thought the figure of 170kph was the one everyone has been quoting for years, not 80kph?

 

from a April 2017 article by Jonathan Head:

 

"The police believe from security camera videos, the distance the car travelled after the crash, and the injuries that instantly killed Sergeant-Major Wichian, that Mr Vorayuth must have been speeding, they estimate at around 170km/h (106mph) in an 80km/h zone. His lawyers have denied this."

 

 

so, the speed numbers are:

1) 170km/h initial police estimate

2) 80km/h revised/renegotiated estimate

3) 60km/h newly dead witness estimate

4) 170km/h back again, but this time it's an expert estimate

 

and round, and round, and round it goes

and where it goes nobody knows...

 

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

New evidence, more BS, all they are trying to do is get themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves.

Not so sure of that. No way the government (army) will give the police a free ride particularly when it makes the government (army) look bad.

16 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

This has gone past a farce to new levels of idiocy 

I think you may be surprised as to just how high a level of idiocy these muppets can attain......