rooster59 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Jacob Blake pleads not guilty to charges prior to Kenosha shooting Jacob Blake (bottom right), the Black man who was shot seven times by police in Kenosha, appears virtually in a court proceeding related to charges filed prior to the shooting incident which sparked anti-racism protests across the nation, in Kenosha, Wisconsin, U.S., September 4, 2020 in this framegrab from court TV. Kenosha District Court/Handout via REUTERS (Reuters) - Jacob Blake, the 29-year-old Black man whose shooting by a white police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, reignited nationwide protests over racism and police brutality, pleaded not guilty on Friday to criminal charges filed prior to the shooting. A complaint accuses Blake of criminal trespass, third-degree sexual assault and disorderly conduct based on statements by his ex-girlfriend at the time, the mother of three of his children, who told police Blake broke into her home on May 3 and sexually assaulted her before stealing her truck and debit card. Blake entered the plea through his lawyer during a livestreamed court hearing, his first public appearance since he was shot in the back by a white Kenosha police officer on Aug. 23. Blake, who was left paralyzed from the waist down by the shooting, was propped up in his hospital bed, dressed in a blue shirt and yellow tie, with his lawyer, Patrick Cafferty, sitting in a chair to his side. Cafferty noted that Blake had been working as a painter and that he had no prior criminal record or convictions in any state. Blake raised his hand to greet Loren Keating, a Kenosha County judicial court commissioner, when addressed, saying "Yes sir," when asked if he could hear clearly and whether he understood the terms of his $10,000 signature bond. "The state recognizes that these are serious charges but also that the defendant has serious injuries and he's recovering at the hospital," said Zeke Wiedenfeld, a prosecutor. The court set trial to begin on Nov. 9 with jury selection. The complaint does not identify the ex-girlfriend by name. (Reporting by Nathan Layne in Wilton, Connecticut, and Jonathan Allen in New York; Editing by Howard Goller) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-05 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scot123 Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 This is ridiculous. Watched the video and it was a justified shooting and the fact it is even in a courtroom is purely political. I have a strong dislike for the police but I feel sorry for the police in those democratic states who are throwing them to the baying racist wolves. However a note all the clips I have seen of BLM are 90% white. 9 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Scot123 said: This is ridiculous. Watched the video and it was a justified shooting and the fact it is even in a courtroom is purely political. I have a strong dislike for the police but I feel sorry for the police in those democratic states who are throwing them to the baying racist wolves. However a note all the clips I have seen of BLM are 90% white. The OP is not related to the police shooting, rather prior criminal charges against Blake going to trial. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bender Rodriguez Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 never run from the police and specially not towards your car ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick501 Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 Another hero of the Democrats. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, simple1 said: The OP is not related to the police shooting, rather prior criminal charges against Blake going to trial. 3 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said: never run from the police and specially not towards your car ... Agree simple, if people were only to read. This is not related to the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Scot123 said: This is ridiculous. Watched the video and it was a justified shooting and the fact it is even in a courtroom is purely political. I have a strong dislike for the police but I feel sorry for the police in those democratic states who are throwing them to the baying racist wolves. However a note all the clips I have seen of BLM are 90% white. That is his right to contest the charges I strongly disagree it was a justifiable shooting by the cops imo it was a gross over the top reaction to something so petty kick his ass 2 weeks in the can is appropriate imo not maiming with intent to kill because of non compliance we aren’t n Korea get a grip and you wonder why people of color are fed up............ 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadWarrior371 Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said: never run from the police and specially not towards your car ... That, and some relative respect for Authority. We were raised that you don't rob, steal, kill. Parents told us if we got shot for lifting a can of soup, that was on us. I doubt the parents of the blacks and whites participating in the recent crime wave did the same. No worries, the democratic party gives them somebody to blame, and free stuff too. LOL, everyone gets a trophy. ???? 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guitar God Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 The same people saying “just follow instructions if you don’t want to be shot by the police” are the same people assaulting retail store employees for telling them that they need to wear a mask to enter the store. Even LEO’s are saying there’s no justification for shooting someone seven times in their back when they’re getting in their car. Instead of walking leisurely they could have hussled their lard asses a little and stopped him before he got in the vehicle (with his three kids in it) if they were so afraid he had a weapon. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Guitar God said: The same people saying “just follow instructions if you don’t want to be shot by the police” are the same people assaulting retail store employees for telling them that they need to wear a mask to enter the store. Even LEO’s are saying there’s no justification for shooting someone seven times in their back when they’re getting in their car. Instead of walking leisurely they could have hussled their lard asses a little and stopped him before he got in the vehicle (with his three kids in it) if they were so afraid he had a weapon. This court case is a criminal complaint ! "The criminal complaint was filed in July, and is unrelated to the shooting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, on 23 August". https://news.yahoo.com/jacob-blake-pleads-not-guilty-212025443.html The matter your speaking to is being investigated! "The police association says Blake got one of the officers in a headlock during a confrontation on the passenger side of the SUV. Two officers fired stun guns and neither of them stopped Blake". “The officers involved gave Mr. Blake numerous opportunities to comply, “He chose not to.” https://www.wbay.com/2020/08/28/jacob-blake-no-longer-in-restraints-in-hospital-more-kenosha-officers-identified/ He violated a restraining order, resulting from a sexual assault claim , while struggling with police he refused to obey police commands and resisted arrest. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jacob-blake-sexual-assault Personally I'm fed up with all people that don't obey the law(resist arrest)! This could of been all avoided, if he adhered! Edited September 5, 2020 by riclag 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MajarTheLion Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Guitar God said: The same people saying “just follow instructions if you don’t want to be shot by the police” are the same people assaulting retail store employees for telling them that they need to wear a mask to enter the store. Even LEO’s are saying there’s no justification for shooting someone seven times in their back when they’re getting in their car. Instead of walking leisurely they could have hussled their lard asses a little and stopped him before he got in the vehicle (with his three kids in it) if they were so afraid he had a weapon. That, of course, depends on which LEOs you ask. But let's set that aside and apply some simple logic. For some reason, two police officers felt it necessary to draw their weapons. The suspect then walks to his car and reaches into it, where he keeps a knife. Are the cops supposed to wait until the suspect turns around with a gun pointed at them to do something? Of course not. But let's get back to the alleged LEOs that say shooting him seven times wasn't necessary. It's complete BS that can be illustrated with some simple logic. First off, LEOs are taught to shoot to neutralize a threat. They are NOT taught to fire one round, see how it goes, then fire another round and see how it goes and so on. It is silly for people to think they can read the minds of the police officers and determine how many rounds it took for them to perceive the threat was over. The fact is, Jacob Black CHOSE to get shot via his actions and decisions. And his previous actions as a likely rapist shows he's willing to become violent to get what he wants. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MajarTheLion Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Guitar God said: The same people saying “just follow instructions if you don’t want to be shot by the police” are the same people assaulting retail store employees for telling them that they need to wear a mask to enter the store. Even LEO’s are saying there’s no justification for shooting someone seven times in their back when they’re getting in their car. Instead of walking leisurely they could have hussled their lard asses a little and stopped him before he got in the vehicle (with his three kids in it) if they were so afraid he had a weapon. Do you have any evidence that anyone who has said "just follow instructions if you don't want to be shot by the police" has assaulted any store employee who told them to wear a mask? I'm assuming that given you used plural words to describe these two types of incidents, you have two examples. Would that be fair to expect? Edited September 5, 2020 by MajarTheLion 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MajarTheLion Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Tug said: That is his right to contest the charges I strongly disagree it was a justifiable shooting by the cops imo it was a gross over the top reaction to something so petty kick his ass 2 weeks in the can is appropriate imo not maiming with intent to kill because of non compliance we aren’t n Korea get a grip and you wonder why people of color are fed up............ Police officers are trained to aim for center mass for practical reasons. First off, aiming for center mass allows the most error while still hitting the suspect. Second, hitting the suspect means hitting someone else, perhaps an innocent bystander, is far less likely. Now, do you have any evidence to support your claim that the officers involved went against their training to aim for center mass and instead were shooting to maim with intent to kill? Yes or no? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MajarTheLion Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 hours ago, simple1 said: The OP is not related to the police shooting, rather prior criminal charges against Blake going to trial. The shooting of Jacob Blake is mentioned twice before the article even proceeds with Blake's criminal charges. So obviously, the shooting is in fact a relevant topic. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said: Police officers are trained to aim for center mass for practical reasons. First off, aiming for center mass allows the most error while still hitting the suspect. Second, hitting the suspect means hitting someone else, perhaps an innocent bystander, is far less likely. Now, do you have any evidence to support your claim that the officers involved went against their training to aim for center mass and instead were shooting to maim with intent to kill? Yes or no? At point blank range, really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajarTheLion Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, candide said: At point blank range, really? "There are only two ways to shut down the human body using deadly force, he said. The first is loss of blood, and the other is a shot to the central nervous system. Police officers are trained to shoot at center mass, in the torso area." https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-trained-shoot-wound-experts/story?id=40402933 That is one of many stories you will find that show police are trained to aim for center mass- and for the reasons I posted earlier. You would probably be surprised how easy it is to miss a target with a pistol, even at close distances. Please feel free to educate me on how police are trained to shoot differently than aiming for center mass at point-blank range. I would also be interested in hearing an alternate method you may have in mind. Edited September 5, 2020 by MajarTheLion fixed link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Scot123 said: This is ridiculous. Watched the video and it was a justified shooting Let me guess, you're an American? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch5163 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 7 hours ago, KhaoYai said: Let me guess, you're an American? What has that got to do with Anything ? Im a Brit and in my opinion he got what he deserved. Could have stopped and avoided all this but he chose to continue moving simle as. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I really thought he would have died, & am astonished that being shot 7 times at close range didn't kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 13 hours ago, MajarTheLion said: Are the cops supposed to wait until the suspect turns around with a gun pointed at them to do something? Of course not. Interesting concept. Several yards apart and the guy is holding a knife and... He is still several yards away with a knife. No doubt if he was white he would be told to drop the knife several times, not shot in the back without any weapon in his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PattayaJames Posted September 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2020 If you are going to be a career criminal, then when they come to arrest you don't resist. EASY! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibreakfast Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Thomas J said: Based on his prior record what do you think the odds were that he was resisting arrest when he was shot? You mean 0 convictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, simple1 said: No problem, carry on playing lawyer over the internet. I'll wait and see the outcome of the trial. For which he is not being charged with rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Sujo said: For which he is not being charged with rape. True, though sexual assault has many definitions / categories, some of which would be viewed as 'rape' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, simple1 said: True, though sexual assault has many definitions / categories, some of which would be viewed as 'rape' It is, but thats not what is alleged. Rape is a specific circumstance of aggravation in a sexual assault charge, for which will not be considered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 A series of posts have been removed, including: --several that followed from a comment post about a forum member --several bickering posts --unattributed and unapproved news source posts If you are going to post news report content, please include a weblink to the original, credible source, and follow fair use guidelines, meaning a headline and no more than 3 sentences of content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibreakfast Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 hours ago, PattayaJames said: If you are going to be a career criminal, then when they come to arrest you don't resist. EASY! A career criminal is someone who makes a living from a life of crime? Any evidence at all that this is the case with Blake? And, no, skin color doesn't count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Purdey said: Interesting concept. Several yards apart and the guy is holding a knife and... He is still several yards away with a knife. No doubt if he was white he would be told to drop the knife several times, not shot in the back without any weapon in his hand. Did you hear any video that indicates that the police did not instruct the accused to stop? The attempt to stop the accused before he was shot is evident on the recordings. I am not going to judge Blake or the police guilty of anything until the factual evidence comes out in open court. making unsubstantiated claims of injustice does not help anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajarTheLion Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Purdey said: Interesting concept. Several yards apart and the guy is holding a knife and... He is still several yards away with a knife. No doubt if he was white he would be told to drop the knife several times, not shot in the back without any weapon in his hand. On what basis do you make this claim that a white man would have been treated differently? More white people are killed by cops than black people. Also, how do you know what was or wasn't said with regards to the police telling him to drop the knife? And still, the fact remains Blake chose to go to his vehicle and reach inside. When cops have guns drawn on you, you are virtually begging them to shoot you if you do such a thing. Another aspect to consider is that domestic disputes are the most dangerous calls police officers respond to. https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/domestic-violence-calls-proven-to-be-most-dangerous-for-responding-law-enforcement-officers/285-c7fef991-320d-4d4d-9449-2ede67c10829 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, thaibreakfast said: A career criminal is someone who makes a living from a life of crime? Any evidence at all that this is the case with Blake? And, no, skin color doesn't count. Love the veiled racist accusation. Typical Leftist tactic. Disgusting actually. Edited September 7, 2020 by PattayaJames 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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