China/Hong Kong/Taiwan represent least Covid threat as Thailand prepares to drop quarantine to 10 days

 

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Thai media Bangkok Biz News reported that the Thai health ministry would propose to the CCSA (covid committee) this week that state quarantine be reduced from 14 days to 10 days for low risk countries. 

 

That is bound to mean China, Hong Kong, Taiwan as well as Australia and New Zealand.

 

Dr Kiatphoom Wongrajit went further saying that if after one month of the new measures it had proved successful then the quarantine could become even shorter and be different for each country based on how well they were dealing with the pandemic. 

 

For example the worst of the low risk countries could be 14 days and the best could be just seven days, he said. 

 

He noted that China represented extremely low risk.

 

This was borne out in figures revealed by Dr Sophon Iamsirithaworn of the infectious disease department. 

 

These concerned people who had returned to Thailand since April until October 15th.

 

There had been 116,219 arrivals and after tests 728 had been found with the virus in quarantine. 

 

This was 0.63% or roughly one in every 200 arrivals. 

 

The highest percentage of people that had the virus came from Kuwait 17.75% out of 293 people, South Sudan 14.87%, Saudi Arabia 7.94%, Sudan 5% and Pakistan 4.72%.

 

Out of 2,426 arrivals from China only ONE person had tested positive or 0.04%. The same percentage was given for Taiwan where 5581 had arrived and only 2 had the virus. Nine had tested positive from Hong Kong or 0.48% of the arrivals. 

 

The top five was rounded out by Australia at 0.1% and New Zealand where out of 827 people not a single person had had the viirus. 

 

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14 minutes ago, webfact said:

For example the worst of the low risk countries could be 14 days and the best could be just seven days, he said. 

 

More bizarre statements. If you have a virus, it doesn't matter where you came from, you are just as much a risk to others as anyone else infected ! 

Next questions: once 10 days is approved how long before ASQ quarantine is reduced to 10/11 days, and will the ASQ rates reduce to 10/15 of current rates?  

59 minutes ago, webfact said:

He noted that China represented extremely low risk.

Jesus wept.

I'm not sure how the figures from Australia came from as there is a total travel ban in place and has been for some months now.  The only way Australians can travel overseas is to get an exception and they are like hen's teeth.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He noted that China represented extremely low risk.

 

Love is blind. ????

Could i go hk and quarantine there and then head to bkk later?  I have hk id card but british passport 

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Next questions: once 10 days is approved how long before ASQ quarantine is reduced to 10/11 days, and will the ASQ rates reduce to 10/15 of current rates?  

One would hope so but who knows.

 

Aside fro cost, a shorter quarantine period should also enable ASQ facilities to accomodate more people.

1 hour ago, lujanit said:

I'm not sure how the figures from Australia came from as there is a total travel ban in place and has been for some months now.  The only way Australians can travel overseas is to get an exception and they are like hen's teeth.

 

They may be including Thai returnees. i fact from the total and the high rates of infection in people coming form some countries, I think they must be.

 

 

1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said:

More bizarre statements. If you have a virus, it doesn't matter where you came from, you are just as much a risk to others as anyone else infected ! 

 

They are calculating the number of infections likely to be missed under different quarantine scenarios. 14 day quarantine will catch about 99%, 10 day will catch about 95%. So the starting number -- the actual number of infected -- does indeed matter.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

One would hope so but who knows.

 

Aside fro cost, a shorter quarantine period should also enable ASQ facilities to accomodate more people.

As a further aside, TV news reports in Australia this morning included detailed comments from the Health minister saying planning well advanced in regard to fast manufacture of 2 vaccines in Australia (Oxford/Astera Zenica, and Queensland University vaccines) and further supplies from abroad, and planning now advanced re both distribution of the vaccines and vaccinations. All waiting of course for final success reports/approvals etc. 

 

2 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

More bizarre statements. If you have a virus, it doesn't matter where you came from, you are just as much a risk to others as anyone else infected ! 

This Virus has shown that it does not respect Age, Sex, Ethnicity or any other barrier put in its path.

Another load of Tosh

Next statement will say that people who wear certain amulets are less likely to have covid19. The fact that they are covid19 tested 3 days prior to travel should mean that 11 days of quarantine should be sufficient. 

14 day quarantine required to enter China, lets see them reduce that first.

There isnt a 14 day at present. Its 16 days so why do people keep saying 14. As per usual wrongly reported information ????????

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He noted that China represented extremely low risk.

Very short or selective memory.

People could be literally dropping down Dead in the Streets in China, and the Country would still be classed as " Low Risk " by the TAT

Have an Aussie mate, married and normally resident in Cambodia,  who went to Oz for a van tour.

Had no problem getting exit "permission" to fly back to Cambodia (albeit via Taipei ). 

As an aside,  back in Cambodia he did 2 nights quarantine in a hotel, then the rest back at his house "upcountry".

He also got the full refund of his $usd3000 required deposit. 

7 hours ago, lujanit said:

I'm not sure how the figures from Australia came from as there is a total travel ban in place and has been for some months now.  The only way Australians can travel overseas is to get an exception and they are like hen's teeth.

Not  anymore if you spent more time OS than in Oz in the last 12 months you don't even need approval, just go straight to the airport . For approvals you Don't even need compassionate reasons just a guarantee you will be goner for 3 months and since nearly all holiday tourists are 2 weeks or at the extreme end 1 month well that wipes out nearly all of those jumping the pond to Bali for a pissup... 

However 3 months or more fits in well for Thailand long termers and 7 day quarantine will make it doable 

Bring it on 

Edited October 19, 20205 yr by madmen

It's comical to watch this government edge its way painfully towards what everyone can see is the only strategy; no quarantine and no 'selected countries', just fully open as before, and take the consequences, which most probably will be minimal.

 

This government has all the foresight of a blind mole rat with its head in a bag, driving at night without lights on a fog-bound road. 

These people are so good at lying that they beleive their own lies. They're so eager to believe the people who lied to them a few short months ago and destroyed their economy. 

 

I hope the Chinese send millions of infected again 

20 hours ago, lujanit said:

I'm not sure how the figures from Australia came from as there is a total travel ban in place and has been for some months now.  The only way Australians can travel overseas is to get an exception and they are like hen's teeth.

Yes exemptions which allow Australians (OZ passport or OZ PR holders) to leave do exist and there's quite a list of exemption factors.

Just one - if you can prove that you actually live abroad most of the time you are entitled to an exemption to this regulation. 

 

Here:  https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia

 

 

Edited October 20, 20205 yr by scorecard

20 hours ago, lujanit said:

The only way Australians can travel overseas is to get an exception

Can they not simply provide some sort of documentation to prove that they have completed their sentence?

 

23 minutes ago, Poet said:

Can they not simply provide some sort of documentation to prove that they have completed their sentence?

 

Sentence?

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Sentence?

It's a joke. Some of the first settlers in Australia were convicts transported from the British Isles to the colonies. Most stayed after finishing their sentences but, legally, they were allowed to leave. Unlike today's Australians.

 

1 hour ago, donnacha said:

It's a joke. Some of the first settlers in Australia were convicts transported from the British Isles to the colonies. Most stayed after finishing their sentences but, legally, they were allowed to leave. Unlike today's Australians.

 

A bit obtuse. The gov't is just trying to keep the virus out by, for a while, restricting bigger picture movement. But of course there are always those who can't see the woods for the trees. 

 

16 minutes ago, scorecard said:

A bit obtuse. The gov't is just trying to keep the virus out by, for a while, restricting bigger picture movement.

Dude, a joke is just a joke. I don't know what to tell you.

I said nothing at all about why the current restrictions are in place, so, it is a tad obtuse that you are now lecturing me about that.

 

17 minutes ago, scorecard said:

But of course there are always those who can't see the woods for the trees.

And, of course, there are those who, apparently, have no sense of humor at all.