Tiger Prawn Farming

[KM_FUBAR]

We looking to gain as much knowledge for tiger prawn farming.

We are not planning to start a tigerprawn farm in Thailand but we will bring it to Europe, and import the larve from Thailand.

Does anybody of you have experience in prawn farming in Thailand our anywhere else we would like to exchange knowledge and we are planning a visit later on this year.

Just post me a message if you have information

Best Regards.

"Mike"

[Maizefarmer]

Hate to dissapoint you .... it's been tried.

Start off by taking a good look at the economics of Tiger Prawn farming in Thailand. Then compare that with what it will cost to do the same in Europe.

Problem number one will be energy costs, problem number 2 will be all the H&S and other rules & regs you'll be forced to complie with and be constantly be policed over about.

I think you are going to find it difficult to produce for any less than what the imported product is wholesaled for - which is about 20% for what they cost on the plate in Thailand. yes - it really is that much.

But, good luck - if you can crack it, why not.

MF

[KM_FUBAR]

Hate to dissapoint you .... it's been tried.

Start off by taking a good look at the economics of Tiger Prawn farming in Thailand. Then compare that with what it will cost to do the same in Europe.

Problem number one will be energy costs, problem number 2 will be all the H&S and other rules & regs you'll be forced to complie with and be constantly be policed over about.

I think you are going to find it difficult to produce for any less than what the imported product is wholesaled for - which is about 20% for what they cost on the plate in Thailand. yes - it really is that much.

But, good luck - if you can crack it, why not.

MF

The energy cost we have worked out, we are situated next to a powerplant and use currently the heat of the couling water to provide the water temperature we want 30° C. We have experiments runnning with tropical fish and it works fine. We want to take it to the next step and that is to commercialise fish farming, one of that will be tiger prawns that is why we are seeking for knowlegde about feeding accomodation and experience.

We can come up laboratory modules from the university but they do not have experience on the large scale.

We do not want to beat the price a frozen prawn costs in Thailand, there is a market in EU for fresh tigerprawns and they are willing to slightly pay more.

We have worked out all accomodation needs and now are looking into the different species to breath, in this case information regarding Tiger prawns we are missing therefor we will visit Thailand later on this year

[lingling]

The energy cost we have worked out, we are situated next to a powerplant and use currently the heat of the couling water to provide the water temperature we want 30° C. We have experiments runnning with tropical fish and it works fine.

Do they glow in the dark?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

[Maizefarmer]

Hate to dissapoint you .... it's been tried.

Start off by taking a good look at the economics of Tiger Prawn farming in Thailand. Then compare that with what it will cost to do the same in Europe.

Problem number one will be energy costs, problem number 2 will be all the H&S and other rules & regs you'll be forced to complie with and be constantly be policed over about.

I think you are going to find it difficult to produce for any less than what the imported product is wholesaled for - which is about 20% for what they cost on the plate in Thailand. yes - it really is that much.

But, good luck - if you can crack it, why not.

MF

The energy cost we have worked out, we are situated next to a powerplant and use currently the heat of the couling water to provide the water temperature we want 30° C. We have experiments runnning with tropical fish and it works fine. We want to take it to the next step and that is to commercialise fish farming, one of that will be tiger prawns that is why we are seeking for knowlegde about feeding accomodation and experience.

We can come up laboratory modules from the university but they do not have experience on the large scale.

We do not want to beat the price a frozen prawn costs in Thailand, there is a market in EU for fresh tigerprawns and they are willing to slightly pay more.

We have worked out all accomodation needs and now are looking into the different species to breath, in this case information regarding Tiger prawns we are missing therefor we will visit Thailand later on this year

If you have access to a cheap source of heat energy, that really does move the goal posts considerably in your favour. As I'm sure you know, although they will suvive in cold water, their growth rate slows considerably.

What sort of scale do you have in mind (i.e. saize of ponds or tanks) and what sort of stocking rates? In Thailand (down South) they get the costs down to next to nothing by rearing them in huge open air ponds. That of course as you rightly point out is for frozen export market - but you want to go down the live route! Where would that be for resturants?

MF

[KM_FUBAR]

Hate to dissapoint you .... it's been tried.

Start off by taking a good look at the economics of Tiger Prawn farming in Thailand. Then compare that with what it will cost to do the same in Europe.

Problem number one will be energy costs, problem number 2 will be all the H&S and other rules & regs you'll be forced to complie with and be constantly be policed over about.

I think you are going to find it difficult to produce for any less than what the imported product is wholesaled for - which is about 20% for what they cost on the plate in Thailand. yes - it really is that much.

But, good luck - if you can crack it, why not.

MF

The energy cost we have worked out, we are situated next to a powerplant and use currently the heat of the couling water to provide the water temperature we want 30° C. We have experiments runnning with tropical fish and it works fine. We want to take it to the next step and that is to commercialise fish farming, one of that will be tiger prawns that is why we are seeking for knowlegde about feeding accomodation and experience.

We can come up laboratory modules from the university but they do not have experience on the large scale.

We do not want to beat the price a frozen prawn costs in Thailand, there is a market in EU for fresh tigerprawns and they are willing to slightly pay more.

We have worked out all accomodation needs and now are looking into the different species to breath, in this case information regarding Tiger prawns we are missing therefor we will visit Thailand later on this year

If you have access to a cheap source of heat energy, that really does move the goal posts considerably in your favour. As I'm sure you know, although they will suvive in cold water, their growth rate slows considerably.

What sort of scale do you have in mind (i.e. saize of ponds or tanks) and what sort of stocking rates? In Thailand (down South) they get the costs down to next to nothing by rearing them in huge open air ponds. That of course as you rightly point out is for frozen export market - but you want to go down the live route! Where would that be for resturants?

MF

In the EU they are very tight up on polution and energy loss, this means that company's who polute a lot and waste energy will get taxed for it. except if they can re-use the wasted energy then they get a seal of a proval as a green company. several industries have an energy loss that we can recuperate and transform to heat, this means if I would put my business in my back yard and I would need to heat up the ponds therefore I would consume energy, now that I tap in to a current business and re-use energy waste I am not poluting I am energy neutral and the joined company receives the seal of aproval.

We created a stand allone pond systems that have there own filtring oxygene and feading supply, basically we do not deploy on one side but in several aerias.

That is why I need the info regarding the Tiger prawns as we need to now what the maximum dencity is and grow rate, if not we will experiment and find out I guess.

We currently grow 2 kinds, a cold water fish "polak" type that does not require to much and local eals.

Both are very well in demand for fish stores and restaurants, it was from there demand that we now look into the solution for prawns.

Mike

[Maizefarmer]

Sounds good

[macan]

I would guess that space is going to be an issue for you and that you will be looking at raceway systems with fairly high stocking density. You are not going to find many examples of this intensive production system in Thailand; Taiwan would be a better study area for these kind of systems since they do it pretty well there. (I hope you can find an alternative energy solution for the pumps and blowers that you will need).

The other thing you will find is that most of the shrimp (around 90%) produced in Thailand (and many other countries ) now is White Shrimp not Tigers; farmers get a better yield with lower disease problems.

You might look into Asian Sea Bass (Barramundi) culture, which is taking off in many parts of the world. However, if you really aim to go 'sustainable' you should consider tilapia or some other species that doesnt require large quantities of marine fish to be processed into feed for your aquaculture stock.