webfact Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Chaeng Wattana gamblers: Migrants detained - Thais let go Picture: Naew Na The Don Muang court convened at the Government Complex yesterday handed down its judgment in the case of 94 gamblers caught during a raid at a casino in Chang wattana Soi 14 earlier in the week. The participants - some appearing via video conference from the Thung Song Hong police station - were charged with offences ranging from illegal entry to contravening the emergency decree to illegal congregation to gambling. Thirteen of the gamblers were migrants - six from Myanmar, six from Cambodia and one from Laos. They had all entered illegally via Mae Sai, Chiang Rai, Aranyaprathet, Sa Kaeo, or Chong Mek sub-district of Ubon Ratchathani. The migrants were jailed for seven and a half months each though this was changed from prison to detention in custody. All the Thais were given 30 day sentences that were suspended. Fines of 12,000 and 15,000 baht were handed out to some of the participants. Remission was given on admission for some offences but not gambling. Source: Naew Na -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-12-31 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 Though the headline is right its a bit misleading. It suggest that Thais and migrants were caught for gambling and only the migrants were detained. This is not true if you read the article it says that nobody was detained for the gambling but that the migrants were all illegal in Thailand. So its only logical that they are detained. The headline almost makes it out that there were two standards applied. 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 Bad headline, when you get a fine and suspended sentence, you haven't been let go. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dumbastheycome Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 So cause for sentence for the migrants was for multiple offences as illegals. The Thais were given suspended sentences, not "let go". Very loaded Headline ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post prakhonchai nick Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 If there was not a gambling den, neither Thais nor illegal migrants would have been present, and Thailand would not be facing the extent of the problems it has today. As such ALL should be punished. Gambling is illegal, and all participants should have received lengthy prison sentences. But no, no charges for gambling. What message does this send to the Thais elsewhere inThailand. Carry on gambling folk! Useless law enforcement -useless judiciary - useless government 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiasurfer Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Agree. The headline is misleading. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 Were they tested for the virus or not, that's the bigger question 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, robblok said: So its only logical that they are detained. The headline almost makes it out that there were two standards applied. An interesting way of looking at the situation, why were the Thais all given suspended prison sentences, they didn't breach immigration regulations? 4 hours ago, webfact said: All the Thais were given 30 day sentences that were suspended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, ukrules said: An interesting way of looking at the situation, why were the Thais all given suspended prison sentences, they didn't breach immigration regulations? The reason for the arrest of the migrants was not gambling but the fact that they were illigal in the country. Remission was given on admission for some offences but not gambling. (from the article) this mean nobody was arrested for gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: The migrants were jailed for seven and a half months each though this was changed from prison to detention in custody. All the Thais were given 30 day sentences that were suspended Well there you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flbkk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Illegal migrants need permanent ban, Thais should serve prison time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 9 hours ago, flbkk said: Illegal migrants need permanent ban, Thais should serve prison time Yeah, Let's bring back the ' Stocks ' and the ' Ducking stool ' that will show them, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosst Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 18 hours ago, robblok said: Though the headline is right its a bit misleading. It suggest that Thais and migrants were caught for gambling and only the migrants were detained. This is not true if you read the article it says that nobody was detained for the gambling but that the migrants were all illegal in Thailand. So its only logical that they are detained. The headline almost makes it out that there were two standards applied. There were at least two standards applied, the police who had been aware of it for years were not charged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 18 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Were they tested for the virus or not, that's the bigger question Who's employing the illegal migrants is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 19 hours ago, webfact said: Thirteen of the gamblers were migrants - six from Myanmar, six from Cambodia and one from Laos. They had all entered illegally via Mae Sai, Chiang Rai, Aranyaprathet, Sa Kaeo, or Chong Mek sub-district of Ubon Ratchathani. Those are precise points of entry and looks like they have entered through immigration office, on fake entry stamp, without computer registration and without guarantine. I do think they were workers in casino, and not gamblers - illegal workers earn some half wage of thai, they don't go to casinos to spend their food money. Now, this den was run by police, hence no gambling charges and no follow up on on fake stamps/visas. Immigration in thailand is part of police force, unlike in some other countries, where it's an independent department 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 20 hours ago, robblok said: Though the headline is right its a bit misleading. It suggest that Thais and migrants were caught for gambling and only the migrants were detained. This is not true if you read the article it says that nobody was detained for the gambling but that the migrants were all illegal in Thailand. So its only logical that they are detained. The headline almost makes it out that there were two standards applied. 20 hours ago, webfact said: were charged with offences ranging from illegal entry to contravening the emergency decree to illegal congregation to gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 12:20 PM, webfact said: charged with offences ranging from illegal entry to contravening the emergency decree to illegal congregation to gambling. On 12/31/2020 at 12:32 PM, robblok said: Though the headline is right its a bit misleading. It suggest that Thais and migrants were caught for gambling and only the migrants were detained. This is not true if you read the article it says that nobody was detained for the gambling but that the migrants were all illegal in Thailand. So its only logical that they are detained. The headline almost makes it out that there were two standards applied. Reread the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserted Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Very disappointing. There's no mention of anyone being robbed or beaten up by the police either. Hopefully they beat up all the Thai gamblers, robbed them, gave the migrant workers their money and let them leave without charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 12:45 PM, prakhonchai nick said: If there was not a gambling den, neither Thais nor illegal migrants would have been present, and Thailand would not be facing the extent of the problems it has today. As such ALL should be punished. Gambling is illegal, and all participants should have received lengthy prison sentences. But no, no charges for gambling. What message does this send to the Thais elsewhere inThailand. Carry on gambling folk! Useless law enforcement -useless judiciary - useless government On 12/31/2020 at 5:23 PM, robblok said: The reason for the arrest of the migrants was not gambling but the fact that they were illigal in the country. Remission was given on admission for some offences but not gambling. (from the article) this mean nobody was arrested for gambling. From the op: were charged with offences ranging from illegal entry to contravening the emergency decree to illegal congregation to gambling ... Remission was given on admission for some offences but not gambling So I think they were charges for gambling as well, and although remission was given for some offence, they were all still charged for gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Actually a Google translation of the actual headline from source that is cited: Quote The court ordered 94 gamblers to jail at Chaengwattana, with up to 7 months punishment Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 6:22 p.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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