Imagine you book an appointment for a "colonoscopy".

Later, they removed your heart, liver, kidneys.

Wife goes to complain and Director gives you an apology and promises you to put it all back, either in a plastic back or you get a new husband with your ex's spare-parts.

Solly, misunderstanding, krub.

2 hours ago, jackdd said:

"At all" doesn't include foreigners though.

 

Oh lordy, the foreigner-card again.

8 minutes ago, Prince77 said:

Did you get that recently? My accountant told me they not issue that card anymore? Thanks.

quite recently, yes. It's plastic like the Pink ID card.

 

I present it in hospital when I go for dental check-ups and the like. 

 

It has replaced the paper one, which got worn down easily. THey send them out to my UNi every year, but Uni denies receipt. Had to get them to send to my home address. ????

1 hour ago, thequietman said:

I have one. Light blue colour with white background. Credit card type thing. ????

Yes and so have I but they are old and not issued now

1 hour ago, yeahbutif said:

But  I falang got same insurance Fromm rooji insurance . cost from 350b to 850b  one payment. Covered for one year

 

will it cover a bill of Bt500k to 2 million

 

I think not and not very many insurance policies inside Thailand will cover covid 

 

If you get covid and are not fully covered you are shafted - forced into a medical facility under house arrest and not able to exit the country - how nice

 

under such a situation all aspects of covid treatment should be free to everyone, chances are it was not your fault catching it in the first place and could be argued that government negligence was ultimately responsible 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, canopus1969 said:

Yes and so have I but they are old and not issued now

Not the paper ones, and I got mine 2 months ago, so still being issued.

So, what was the real charge? 499,999 baht?

20 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

So, what was the real charge? 499,999 baht?

For one plaster and an aspirin.....

34 minutes ago, thequietman said:

Not the paper ones, and I got mine 2 months ago, so still being issued.

Interesting - thanks for update - was this your first paper one?

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Dr Jadej Thammarat-aree said that the hospital concerned said they were charging because the patient had turned down treatment elsewhere at a hospital where they were diagnosed with the virus. 

I guess it was worth a try... if caught out it's all a misunderstanding.

4 hours ago, kotsak said:

Yes would be fun to watch their faces, but usually the first thing they ask when you enter a hospital (even for IPD) is if you have insurance (so they can try their best to suck it dry ????)

 

Asking for proof of insurance has been standard operating procedure in the hospitals of that great bastion of health care, the US of A for a lot longer than farangs have been getting laid here.

 

Lighten up willya? Instead of bashing, try warmly welcoming Thailand to the stark realities of the developed 'First World'.

1 hour ago, smedly said:

3 hours ago, yeahbutif said:

But  I falang got same insurance Fromm rooji insurance . cost from 350b to 850b  one payment. Covered for one year

 

will it cover a bill of Bt500k to 2 million

 

I think not and not very many insurance policies inside Thailand will cover covid 

 

If you get covid and are not fully covered you are shafted - forced into a medical facility under house arrest and not able to exit the country - how nice

 

under such a situation all aspects of covid treatment should be free to everyone, chances are it was not your fault catching it in the first place and could be argued that government negligence was ultimately responsible

 

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4 hours ago, thequietman said:

It's kind of sickening that a Doc who has sworn to do no harm, pads a bill with unnecessary expenditure. It's sad in this day and age. ????

Why do you assume Thai doctors take the same oath as American doctors?

Herein lies the problem with all the schemes and scams...    They can't remember or keep them straight. 

 

Interesting that the Name of Hospital is not printed. 

 

Big Big misunderstanding...... uh huh.

7 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Not before the two family members had appeared on a tv show to plead their case did Dr Jadej agree to pay up though !!

yes that is how u get justice in thailand .. report it to social media or news

With all the cops out there who can catch all sorts of overstayers and falang who fail to wear their face-masks, you would think they could deploy a few to catch Miss. Un, or to give her full name, Miss Un Derstand Ing. That lady causes so much trouble, creating problems with the police, hospitals and even with ordinary citizens. The government should make catching her a top priority!

For everyone that wants to bash the private hospitals for charging for their services, how many of you own a business or have owned a business? If you did, did you give your services away for free? And if you did on a regular basis, how long did you stay in business? If the Thai government wants to have their 30 baht health care plan so be it, as long as it only applies to government hospitals. If the government wants that 30 baht scheme to apply to private hospitals, then the government has to compensate the private hospitals. Otherwise, the private hospitals will operate at a loss and wont be around for long.

We must remember the basic fact of life that cannot and will not ever change no matter how much we feel it should: There is no such thing as a free lunch!

3 minutes ago, toolpush said:

For everyone that wants to bash the private hospitals for charging for their services, how many of you own a business or have owned a business? If you did, did you give your services away for free? And if you did on a regular basis, how long did you stay in business? If the Thai government wants to have their 30 baht health care plan so be it, as long as it only applies to government hospitals. If the government wants that 30 baht scheme to apply to private hospitals, then the government has to compensate the private hospitals. Otherwise, the private hospitals will operate at a loss and wont be around for long.

We must remember the basic fact of life that cannot and will not ever change no matter how much we feel it should: There is no such thing as a free lunch!

Yet the Government has assured the Thai citizens that no matter what their treatment will be covered by the government.  This would include a private hospital if services were not available at a government hospital.  Like insurance companies, I am sure that there are reduced rates the government is charged versus someone paying without insurance here in Thailand.  Every business has a loss ratio they are acceptable with, and private hospitals are no different.

This is why they are desperate to move farang to private hospitals so they can pick up the tab

So sorry.  We thought you were a foreigner.  wai

13 hours ago, thequietman said:

I suppose it does, if you are in the social security through your job.

 

Can you imagine their little faces when they realise that a foreigner that they have been 'treating' for covid pulls out his/her SS card. The amount of padding would be huge and they would not get a penny from said foreigner.

 

Would love to be a fly on the wall that day.

No chance, they secure payment BEFORE they touch the farang, not afterwards. By CC or SS.

In the end a private hospital is a business.

If free, everyone would show up there when suspect they gave covid, for free VIP treatment, not the government hospital with dorm like rooms for 10 or more, in small towns many more.

 

Would be next to demand Michelin restaurants to serve 40 baht food items like the market stall?

 

It just one fact that life doesn't work that way. Unfair, perhaps, but a fact.

 

who can't pay for a limo go by taxi.

Who can't pay for taxi go by motorbike.

Who can't pay for motorbike go by bus.

Who can't pay for bus walk.

Who can't walk pray for Buddha.

 

Disclaimer: I can't afford some private hospital. But not I demand it.

 

 

 

13 hours ago, kotsak said:

Yes would be fun to watch their faces, but usually the first thing they ask when you enter a hospital (even for IPD) is if you have insurance (so they can try their best to suck it dry ????)

So then we can lie, right? And after when it is time for payment, "remember" the insurance. I have done that and then it was so cheap so it was not worth to pay it with the insurance. So I payed it myself. It was only some minor thing but as you say they would have sucked the insurance dry. That's why the insurances are so expensive.

Unbelievable.........  Of course it was a misunderstanding... ????????

20 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Why do you assume Thai doctors take the same oath as American doctors?

 

Good point.

 

Outwith the price gouging, greed and "they don't like us" arguments from others, your response led me to this article where a Thai medical doctor, educated here and overseas, makes the case for why a typical western Hippocratic Oath would probably find itself challenged in Thailand.

 

https://meded.kku.ac.th/medednew/b_a_l/28_06_49_2.pdf

Edited May 22, 20215 yr by NanLaew

I had influenza B and pneumonia 2 years ago. 6 nights on ward on an IV drip with my vitals being checked 3 times daily. No ICU.....

On 5/21/2021 at 10:22 AM, anchadian said:

There seems to be a lot of 'misunderstandings' recently or should I say for many years now.

 

Unbelievable.

Yes, another Hub for the Hall of Hubs.

On 5/21/2021 at 11:44 AM, yeahbutif said:

So does a Thai need covid insurance at all ?as sounds like gov pay... I know

 Covid insurance cover death.si maybe still worth having insurance ? But the other bits inpatient and outpatient maybe a waste of money .... But  I falang got same insurance Fromm rooji insurance . cost from 350b to 850b  one payment. Covered for one year.i did get for Thai lady as well same prices...

 

 

This person requested to stay at another hospital. Maybe that is why his insurance paid up. I am not absolutely sure.

On 5/21/2021 at 11:26 AM, thequietman said:

They took payment - so your logic does not hold. ???? It was presented & payment was taken.

 

The whole family were admitted. The husband and wife requested to stay together at a private hospital.  The husband later went into ICU and the wife recovered and then requested to stay at another private hospital nearer home together with her daughter,

I don't know if they were required to pay or not, but I am sure the bill has to be presented to then to sign anyway.

 

On 5/21/2021 at 11:16 AM, darksidedog said:

Pound against a penny that they are charging though. Overcharging into the bargain most likely too.

I'll bet London to a brick