cdemundo Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 "The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better Persistent hype around mRNA vaccine technology is now distracting us from other ways to end the pandemic." https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/ This was approved after the hottest COVID wave in US, but maybe can make a difference around the world. Maybe even in countries in SE Asia, who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Awesome, Just what I need. Another vaccine I can't get. This is leaking into the Thai consciousness, Princess Ubolratana urged the government to order Novovax on her Instagram this week... On July 22, 2021, Princess Ubolratana Rajakanya Siriwattana Phannawadee Her Highness posted on her personal Instagram about the situation of the COVID vaccine in Thailand that she would like to recommend that Thailand hurry to order an effective vaccine. It is a second-generation vaccine, such as Novavax of the United States. Because this vaccine is a protein subunit type. It fights against the mutant vaccine better than the first generation vaccine of the effective brand. https://covid-19.kapook.com/view244416.html Pronounced Novawax locally, no not a new hair removal process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: Awesome, Just what I need. Another vaccine I can't get. This is leaking into the Thai consciousness, Princess Ubolratana urged the government to order Novovax on her Instagram this week... On July 22, 2021, Princess Ubolratana Rajakanya Siriwattana Phannawadee Her Highness posted on her personal Instagram about the situation of the COVID vaccine in Thailand that she would like to recommend that Thailand hurry to order an effective vaccine. It is a second-generation vaccine, such as Novavax of the United States. Because this vaccine is a protein subunit type. It fights against the mutant vaccine better than the first generation vaccine of the effective brand. https://covid-19.kapook.com/view244416.html Pronounced Novawax locally, no not a new hair removal process. Well, maybe since US, and UK and others have lower demand for a new vaccine Novavax will be available. But as you say, not available yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) "This was approved after the hottest COVID wave in US, but maybe can make a difference around the world. Maybe even in countries in SE Asia, who knows?" Whats "approved", Novovax? If it is, no one's saying so. Edited July 25, 2021 by codemonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 What most people call 'science' regarding Covid vaccines is marketing promoted by the manufactures as well as so called experts with conflicts of interests. So we get articles and "news" published by main-stream media outlets which support a single, corporate viewpoint and reject all others. That's not "science." Science is founded in publish research studies that are open to academic review, comment, and scrutiny. This main-stream articles are not news, they are marketing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 A serious danger is that vaccine trials will soon be conducted in weeks instead of years. Caution tossed to the wind as the "Experts" say "the benefits outweigh the risks" and regulatory agencies simply become a rubber-stamp mechanism for trillion dollar industries who have successfully engaged in regulatory capture. It works until it doesn't. Then the blame will fall on people who had nothing to do with problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, codemonkey said: "This was approved after the hottest COVID wave in US, but maybe can make a difference around the world. Maybe even in countries in SE Asia, who knows?" Whats "approved", Novovax? If it is, no one's saying so. No you are absolutely right, not approved. Just had good test results. Don't know what I was thinking. Also, may not be to continue in process for EUA (emergency use authorization) and may need to apply for full auth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cdemundo Posted July 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, connda said: A serious danger is that vaccine trials will soon be conducted in weeks instead of years. Caution tossed to the wind as the "Experts" say "the benefits outweigh the risks" and regulatory agencies simply become a rubber-stamp mechanism for trillion dollar industries who have successfully engaged in regulatory capture. It works until it doesn't. Then the blame will fall on people who had nothing to do with problem. Have you looked into how many potential vaccines have been scrapped for poor safety or poor efficacy results? They are numerous.. for example: Imperial College London/Morningside Merck/Themis/Institute Pasteur Merck/IAVI altimmune a bio/pharm company in USA University of Queensland also: "nine groups were testing mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in animal studies as of May 2020, and six were expected to be in clinical trials a few months later. By the end of the year, only BioNTech-Pfizer, Moderna, and CureVac had reached Phase 3 testing, compared with 13 non-mRNA vaccines. Of the nine mRNA-vaccine candidates that were already testing in animals in mid-2020, just two have proved efficacy at this point," https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/ The companies don't undergo the expense of submitting an application unless they have a chance of approval. Even the mighty Merck pharma scrapped two vaccines in development that did not pan out. Rubber stamping is not occurring. Also, Novavax has not been approved as codemonkey pointed out I was wrong to write that, just has published some positive test results. Additionally, Novavax may be asked to change its application for approval in the US from EUA to full authorization because effective vaccines are in use in the US. They may be allowed to continue with request for EUA because it has been in progress. Edited July 25, 2021 by cdemundo wrote might, meant mighty 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Om Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I think this is the same technology as the two Cuban vaccines that they claim +90% efficacy for. Might have to pop across to Vietnam if you want a shot. https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/cuba-to-transfer-covid-vaccine-production-tech-to-vietnam-4303506.html https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/cuba-says-abdala-vaccine-9228-effective-against-coronavirus-2021-06-21/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 The Novavax COVID-19 vaccine, codenamed NVX-CoV2373, is a subunit COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by Novavax and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), that is undergoing trials in India under the brand name Covovax. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novavax_COVID-19_vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 19 hours ago, connda said: What most people call 'science' regarding Covid vaccines is marketing promoted by the manufactures as well as so called experts with conflicts of interests. So we get articles and "news" published by main-stream media outlets which support a single, corporate viewpoint and reject all others. That's not "science." Science is founded in publish research studies that are open to academic review, comment, and scrutiny. This main-stream articles are not news, they are marketing. There are plenty of mainstream articles reporting on independent scientific research regarding vaccinations. And, of course, at this point there is overwhelming evidence that vaccinations work. Reports from hospitals show that the vast majority of deaths are from the ranks of the unvaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 One caveat about the Novavax data is that it was conducted before Delta was prevalent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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