snoop1130 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Thailand’s Highways Department will put the new M-Flow toll system on tests from October 29th at Dan Tap Chang and Dan Tanya Buri toll plazas on Motorway No 9, which will allow seamless travel for motorists and help reduce congestion at toll gates. Transport Minister Saksayam Chidchob said today (Tuesday) that the toll system will recognize the vehicles by their license plates and allow them to pass through without having to slow down, because there will no longer be Easy Pass or M-Pass automatic barriers at these gates. With the M-Flow system, he said vehicle flow through the toll gates will be increased by five times, to between 2,000-2,500 vehicles per hour travelling at a speed of up to 120kph, compared to 500 for Easy Pass or M-Pass gates. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/new-seamless-travel-through-toll-plazas-on-motorway-no-9-from-october-29th/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-10-19 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Excellent news - I hope it works! Would make a huge difference if/when implemented across the network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Not sure how enforcement for those who haven't prepaid will work. Perhaps an account sent in the mail or email with the ability to pay online? And who will be responsible for the payment ? The driver or the vehicle owner ? Maybe the owner gets hit at vehicle tax time ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeff Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, cracker1 said: Not sure how enforcement for those who haven't prepaid will work. Perhaps an account sent in the mail or email with the ability to pay online? And who will be responsible for the payment ? The driver or the vehicle owner ? Maybe the owner gets hit at vehicle tax time ? Yes, from the articles that have been published so far it's pretty much impossible to understand how the system would actually work in practice. They have presumably designed the whole thing already, so I'm not sure why they don't just explain it fully and clearly right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbkk Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Yes exactly, not clear at all. If you read the article it seems to say that this is in addition to the existing m-pass/easypass, if I read it correctly. I have been using an easypass for years, and will not bother with this new extra, unless it links seamlessly with the easypass. Fat chance, considering its Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeraponW Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Next challenge.... driving through the barriers at 120kph...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, khunjeff said: Yes, from the articles that have been published so far it's pretty much impossible to understand how the system would actually work in practice. They have presumably designed the whole thing already, so I'm not sure why they don't just explain it fully and clearly right now. You ask too much.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Unclear remain:- 120kph? Wondering how many Somchais are smashing up the cars in the dire attempt to break yet another speed records - 120kph? When speed restrictions change from 120 - 30 via 60 to 40 and back to 90 over 400 metres - what happens to all those hundreds of thousands of Mpass and Easypass Tag holders and the remaining credit on their tags? The Chidchobs, both father and his sons always good for a little surprise ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, stbkk said: Yes exactly, not clear at all. If you read the article it seems to say that this is in addition to the existing m-pass/easypass, if I read it correctly. I have been using an easypass for years, and will not bother with this new extra, unless it links seamlessly with the easypass. Fat chance, considering its Thailand. Unbelievable negativity on here again. M Flow is going to replace cash and Easy Pass. There will be no gates. M Flow is gateless and works in the same way as Singapore's ERP and Dubai's Salik. I know nobody on TVF likes change or advances but you will not have the option to keep your Easy Pass, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, josephbloggs said: M Flow is going to replace cash and Easy Pass. Not for a long time - 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: because there will no longer be Easy Pass or M-Pass automatic barriers at these gates. I read it that they will still of course have cash lanes with barriers. Considering the propensity here of not paying fines one wonders how long before most drivers start using the barrier less tolls without paying.......especially if no queue..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 21 hours ago, snoop1130 said: travelling at a speed of up to 120kph, compared to 500 for Easy Pass or M-Pass gates. My car won't do anywhere near 500kph, does that mean I can't use the new gates? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Many countries have similar systems. If you go through with no device to pay (deduct) you’ll get a bill in the mail (address car is registered). If rental car bill sent to rental car company and they bill customer accordingly. .. Article says eventually there won’t be a cash booth.... Pat least that’s the way I read it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, DJ54 said: Many countries have similar systems. If you go through with no device to pay (deduct) you’ll get a bill in the mail (address car is registered). If rental car bill sent to rental car company and they bill customer accordingly. .. Article says eventually there won’t be a cash booth.... Pat least that’s the way I read it.. Bill in the mail to be ignored, together with the mailed speeding ticket fines.???? Edited October 20, 2021 by Gandtee punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toany Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, DJ54 said: Many countries have similar systems. If you go through with no device to pay (deduct) you’ll get a bill in the mail (address car is registered). If rental car bill sent to rental car company and they bill customer accordingly. .. Article says eventually there won’t be a cash booth.... Pat least that’s the way I read it.. The Thai post do not deliver mail to my registered address, so it will be free. Fat chance Edited October 20, 2021 by Toany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Toany said: The Thai post do not deliver mail to my registered address, so it will be free. Fat chance Until it comes time to tax your vehicle. Now or in the near future unpaid fines means no tax until they are paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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