Vpn Over Ipstar

[dogleg]

Hi All,

Can anyone confirm that ipstar Home packages will allow a vpn to go through with no problems?

I need it for some connections and for software ip phone.

Does the one computer limit on the Home packages really mean that I cannot connect my Hardware IP phone as well as my laptop?

Any body using IPstar a few kliks inland from Pattaya? How do you find it?

Cheers

Mart

Edited June 11, 2007 by dogleg

[dsys]

i use vpn over ipstar no issues at all apart from latency but hey its sat so id expect that. started off on home and vpn worked fine now use the corporate package as home was too slow concatenation too high

[dsys]

just as aasside i also run voip over ipstar but it while it works the quality is not very good, calls to UK mobile phones will connect but quality is poor. I use vonage.

[monty]

concatenation too high

I think you mean contention ratio

In general VPN over satellite will work, but not at a very fast pace. Satellite systems use tricks on the TCP/IP protocol to reduce the effects the latency creates. These speed enhancements can seriously impede the speed of the VPN tunnel.

I forgot what the exact name is of these enhancements, but in the Ipstar box they can be shut down. Some of our members used to have a lot of corrupt downloads which were caused by this speed enhancement technology. Shutting it down greatly decreased the bad downloads, and would also increase the speed of the VPN tunnel.

VOIP would not be very good due to the latency, but should be usable if both users know to let the other party finish the sentence before replying! It takes over a second for your voice to reach the other side and vice versa..

[macb]

Whats the costings and call rates : Same as local and international ?

I am on 256/128 package at the moment :

I am assuming that only the modem needs to be on for VOIP ?

Edited June 11, 2007 by macb

[dsys]

I think you mean contention ratio

Yup orriginally spelled it catention and changed to contention without deleting the ca - ended up all joined together:)

Is it the MTU size you are talking about - if not anybody else know what the enhacements are ? i'd like to know

[dsys]

Whats the costings and call rates : Same as local and international ?

I am on 256/128 package at the moment :

I am assuming that only the modem needs to be on for VOIP ?

For voip I have an 0207 number that rings through to Thailand. Since the number is UK based there is no international call rate. Package includes 500 mins free. £14.99 month, includes a fax line. There is a cheaper package - www.vonage.co.uk. I use a wifi phone for the Voip so in my setup the WAG and the router and the phone need to be on.

I am on the corporate 1Mbs/dontknow(512?) package, think it costs about B6k month not sure. I have four sats here all running the same setup, I share the connections to my neighbours and charge them for it. Pays for itself.

[monty]

Ok, found it after some searching...

Seems the thing resulting in the corrupt downloads is called netgain.

You can shut it off by going into the ipstar box...

http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/webgateway.cgi , where the X's are the ip address of your box.

Find the IP address by clicking on start, chose run, enter CMD and hit enter.

type IPCONFIG and hit enter.

The IP address of your box is the same as the Default Gateway address... (from my slowly failing memory I think it should be 192.168.5.1 or 192.168.5.100)

If the box asks a password then enter "operator"

With a bit of luck it should improve your VPN connection!

[Guest Reimar]

monty is right, just diable Netgain. But your downloadspeed will go down also.

for VoIP you need a stable min. 98/98 connection. There is a quite good speedtest availabel here: http://myvoipspeed.visualware.com/

[dsys]

this is a good thred for me here guys, learning loads. I have installed Voip kit for BT and other large Telcos (Nortel kit mainly) but I have no idea what a 98/98 connection is - can you elaborate.

[Guest Reimar]

this is a good thred for me here guys, learning loads. I have installed Voip kit for BT and other large Telcos (Nortel kit mainly) but I have no idea what a 98/98 connection is - can you elaborate.

Minimum stable up- and download of 98 kByte/second NOT kbits/second!

Edited June 11, 2007 by Reimar

[dsys]

Minimum stable up- and download of 98 kByte/second NOT kbits/second!

Wow, thats a lot of bandwidth, normal voice (ie on a POTS system) is modulated using PCM and hits only 64K, bit drunk right now cant remeber what codec in VOIP that converts to but its the highest.

Do you have a ref for this I'd like to read up on this spec.

[Guest Reimar]

Minimum stable up- and download of 98 kByte/second NOT kbits/second!

Wow, thats a lot of bandwidth, normal voice (ie on a POTS system) is modulated using PCM and hits only 64K, bit drunk right now cant remeber what codec in VOIP that converts to but its the highest.

Do you have a ref for this I'd like to read up on this spec.

Excuse me but it's kbits/s not kByte/s I wrote wrong!!

May use the link I gave before, there's a lot explanation. But from my own experiences with special IP-Star, even the account I had before: 512/256 wan't good enough for VoIP!

[dogleg]

Great Stuff, but it looks like I'm going to have to suck it and see for both the vpn/voip and my voip router. I cant get anyone in csloxinfo to admit to knowing what a vpn is! Both work fine (well ok) now over tot adsl but I want to move to the country.

Anybody have an answer about plugging in the voip router/gateway as well as the pc?

Cheers

M

[Guest Reimar]

Great Stuff, but it looks like I'm going to have to suck it and see for both the vpn/voip and my voip router. I cant get anyone in csloxinfo to admit to knowing what a vpn is! Both work fine (well ok) now over tot adsl but I want to move to the country.

Anybody have an answer about plugging in the voip router/gateway as well as the pc?

Cheers

M

Forget the people by CS-L, they even don't know what the "Box" all can do. And VPN are "unknown villages" for them. 6 month try to work out with the staff from CS-L and fianlly NOTHING was going as it should even not for 10%!

Unfortunatly you're on an very bad position if you'll need IP-Star!!

[dsys]

Anybody have an answer about plugging in the voip router/gateway as well as the pc?

easy to fool the system - all you do is hang another nat router directly off the ipstar box and then build your network off the second router. Thats the way i did it using the home package. Used a FVS338 netgear router I had lying around but I guess any other router will work fine too.

[Guest Reimar]

Anybody have an answer about plugging in the voip router/gateway as well as the pc?

easy to fool the system - all you do is hang another nat router directly off the ipstar box and then build your network off the second router. Thats the way i did it using the home package. Used a FVS338 netgear router I had lying around but I guess any other router will work fine too.

For an internal network it will works fine! But the Main question was VPN and VPN is mainly used over the Internet.

After 6 month pain in th A** it's easy to fool a system!! May you read me old post from the last year and you'll see what's the problems I've with IP-Star and CS-L include and final with an Court decision!

No, the main problem is the relaibility of service which didn't exist. On an 512/256 package the Service wasn't good enough for VoIP and VPN/Remote Control! And and and!!

In the real I didn't fool the system, I foll the company and the staff of that company who hasn't the knowledge about the system and how to handle it, not to talk about improvement!!

[dsys]

Sorry to hear about your problems. I personally have had none, VPN worked fine. Don't understand your argument about VPN being used over the internet so cant reply. As far as i understand VPN ( either L2TP or PPTP) is just like any other Layer 2 tunneling protocol, eg GTP. so I cant see how if a layer 7 protocol such as http works a layer 2 protocol would fail to work but i guess I'd need to read your post to understand the issue - is there a link? As for RDP I a have no issues with that either, ok a bit slow but i guess thats latency.

I agree that the quality of service from IPstar is not great but when its th only option i guess i just have to put up with it.

[lostwelshman]

Hi im new to this forum but desperately need help with my ipstar ipx 5100

i have tinkered with the settings in the gateway http:xxx.xxx.x.xxx:8080/xwebgateway.cgi

can anyone please tell me what all the default settings are, for each of tabs

or what someone has on their settings so that i can make mine work :S

too much messing in the network, dhcp, and sat tab i think.

[Prasert]

Hi im new to this forum but desperately need help with my ipstar ipx 5100

i have tinkered with the settings in the gateway http:xxx.xxx.x.xxx:8080/xwebgateway.cgi

can anyone please tell me what all the default settings are, for each of tabs

or what someone has on their settings so that i can make mine work :S

too much messing in the network, dhcp, and sat tab i think.

Since you have been changing the dhcp tabs I assume you understand TCP/IP so getting that back to work shouldn't be a problem.

One thing to keep in mind:

Although you know the password for the box, it does not mean you're allowed to change anything. The box is not your property and is managed by IPstar. If anything needs to be changed, just call support and make 'm change it. If they're unable to access the box and have to send an engineer who then finds out you messed around with it...........don't be surprised if you would be charged for the costs

[dateline]

Hi im new to this forum but desperately need help with my ipstar ipx 5100

i have tinkered with the settings in the gateway http:xxx.xxx.x.xxx:8080/xwebgateway.cgi

can anyone please tell me what all the default settings are, for each of tabs

or what someone has on their settings so that i can make mine work :S

too much messing in the network, dhcp, and sat tab i think.

Since you have been changing the dhcp tabs I assume you understand TCP/IP so getting that back to work shouldn't be a problem.

One thing to keep in mind:

Although you know the password for the box, it does not mean you're allowed to change anything. The box is not your property and is managed by IPstar. If anything needs to be changed, just call support and make 'm change it. If they're unable to access the box and have to send an engineer who then finds out you messed around with it...........don't be surprised if you would be charged for the costs

Can someone please post a screen shot of the default DHCP page in the IPSTAR router. My DHCP on the router is disabled, and although I understand networking, this one keeps throwing me out. Can't re enable DHCP unless I set this up properly again. Thanks in advance.