Russian and Ukrainian tourists in Thailand beginning to face financial transaction and travel problems due to sanctions, invasion

[RafPinto]

8 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

They may not have a choice, if they can't receive money from home and there are no flights back than they have to be more generous. Also if Thai's paid any or more tax in their younger years they would have a larger pension.

larger than 500baht or what?

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3 hours ago, bunnydrops said:

I am against all wars. But I do think people should see both sides of the picture.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

15 minutes ago, martand said:

This explains part of Putin's accusations against the Ukrainian government, that of being a gang of neo-Nazis and drug addicts. Very peculiar accusations, especially since the Ukrainian president, Mr. Zelenski, is Jewish. But from this article, it seems that neo-Nazis are just about everywhere in the political apparatus and in the Ukrainian army and law enforcement. 

The article linked to dates from 2019. In 2019 a general election was held in Ukraine. Svoboda, the Neo-Nazi party, won 2.15% of the popular vote. Enough with the B.S. tying the Ukrainian govt. to neo-Nazism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ukrainian_parliamentary_election

[nickmondo]

6 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Yes.  I would let the Ukrainians stay for free.  The Russians can fend for themselves good luck.

there is nothing wrong with the vast majority of Russian people.  It is the lunatic in charge that is the problem.

[Freddy42OZ]

8 hours ago, Anna Rak said:

With all the travel restrictions and hoop jumping to get through, it's unlikely there are many Russians or Ukrainians in or about to travel to Thailand anyway, However a more interesting question might be, How much Russian currency is Thailand holding in foreign reserves now that the Russian currency is all but useless?? which brings back a thought of years ago, when it was not known as Rubels but "RUBBLES" 

 

Just a Question to ponder for the illustrious P.M. and his Hub of finance. 

There are a lot of Russians and Ukrainians already here.  Both tourists and people living here. 

My GF is half Russian and half Ukrainian and has friends from both countries here.

[petermik]

1 hour ago, Mike Teavee said:

I've noticed the same in the Wongamat area where there seems to be many more Russian (or possibly one of the Former USSR countries) people about, mainly young families.

 

4-5 familes have moved into my condo block (2 on my floor alone) so it seems they're planning to stay for at least a month, can't say I blame them given everything that's happening "Back Home" but can only imagine the financial hassles they're going to face if they can't use their credit cards / ATMs.   

 

Ever thought about "subbing"them.....????

[martand]

13 minutes ago, Freddy42OZ said:

There are a lot of Russians and Ukrainians already here.  Both tourists and people living here. 

My GF is half Russian and half Ukrainian and has friends from both countries here.

And just to add on this complicated issue Ukrainians-Russians, just found out that the Ukrainian president's, Mr Zelensky, first language is Russian...

[puck2]

3 hours ago, RocketDog said:

Holding individuals responsible for the actions of their governments is short-sighted, misguided, and frankly ignorant.

I hope you didn't mean that to sound as bigoted as it came out in print.

If that would be right, what you are pretending, then please tell and explain to me/us, why Germany had to pay a lot for all the crimes Hitler had done before and during WW II. 

 

The same should happen to Russia. I'm sure, a lot of Russians dislike their dictator Purtin, the same what happened in Germany with Hitler. But both dictators, Hitler and Putin, both have been the official represantives of their country.

 

Therefore it's correct to pay for "the damage" they have caused. This result is very sad for the normal Russian people with a good heart and a healthy brain. It's an unwanted result of belonging to this country, but you have to tolerate the consequences of an ugly and bad leadership.

 

[bunnydrops]

1 hour ago, RafPinto said:

I bet there is already a private facebook page for thai women:

 

do not engage with Russians,, their money is worthless and assets frozen.
Solution: the indian billionaires are soon flying through the new bubble guppy.

They may be hard, but surely not frozen.

[Boomer6969]

7 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The issue isn't tourists who may come in the future, it's the large number of Russians in Thailand on long stay. Jomtien is full of them. How they survive is going to be problematic. 

Hope they'll all end up in IDC. Maybe I'll have a look at Pattaya again in a few weeks, if these obnoxious thugs are off the streets. Breakfast at Amari Tower would be much more pleasant without these pink, loud, uneducated slobs. Was sometimes reminiscent of my childhood when I was feeding the pigs, but then I had the anticipation of delicious "speck", "wurz " and "sauerkraut".

Edited March 2, 2022 by Boomer6969

[martand]

7 minutes ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

Russia is an important country for the world economy and military balance Ukraine just a burden and all this support to Ukraine is wrong western countries should not support UA or being neutral or no support 

And Putin own a full right to secure his borders from a country that have personality, Things got worse in France, Italy and Germany after Romania , Hungary, and Bulgaria joined the EU as they are poor more than Africa and they needed a huge support from the taxes of European hard workers now an other help to Ukraine? no need to work for others  the wave of Ukrainian will be a big problem for Europe thieves , organized crimes, human trafficking , Minor sexual trade , weapon trade , Robbery and much more 

Did not know or met many Ukrainians, aside from very good chess players, but what you foresee, hope it will not happen! Another mistake by the European Union? 

[puck2]

11 minutes ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

Russia is an important country for the world economy and military balance Ukraine just a burden and all this support to Ukraine is wrong western countries should not support UA or being neutral or no support 

And Putin own a full right to secure his borders from a country that have personality, Things got worse in France, Italy and Germany after Romania , Hungary, and Bulgaria joined the EU as they are poor more than Africa and they needed a huge support from the taxes of European hard workers now an other help to Ukraine? no need to work for others  the wave of Ukrainian will be a big problem for Europe thieves , organized crimes, human trafficking , Minor sexual trade , weapon trade , Robbery and much more 

Do you get payed for this propaganda of lies???? ????

[StraightTalk]

6 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

Hope they'll all end up in IDC. Maybe I'll have a look at Pattaya again in a few weeks, if these obnoxious thugs are off the streets. Breakfast at Amari Tower would be much more pleasant without the pink, loud, uneducated slobs.

Well, based on your post you should be called a member.

[Cherrytreeview]

16 minutes ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

Russia is an important country for the world economy and military balance Ukraine just a burden and all this support to Ukraine is wrong western countries should not support UA or being neutral or no support 

And Putin own a full right to secure his borders from a country that have no personality, and controlled by others Things got worse in France, Italy and Germany after Romania , Hungary, and Bulgaria joined the EU as they are poor more than Africa and they needed a huge support from the taxes of European hard workers now an other help to Ukraine? no need to work for others  the wave of Ukrainian will be a big problem for Europe thieves , organized crimes, human trafficking , Minor sexual trade , weapon trade , Robbery and much more 

Russia is a totally irrelevant 3% of global GDP, 

Has a totally stagnant economy with no economic growth or tech sector.

Putin has slowly enriched himself and his friends at the expense of ordinary Russian citizens.

Just like Thailand in that respect.

[Boomer6969]

5 minutes ago, StraightTalk said:

Well, based on your post you should be called a member.

Fair enough... Nixon was a great president.

[animalmagic]

6 hours ago, Zack61 said:

Not sure all Russian’s support this madman. Putin demands their support with threats of imprisonment or worse. Perhaps they come to Thailand seeking a reprieve from this nutter. 

If they are seeking a reprieve from listening to a nutter, then they better not listen to the Govt news here................or read this forum ????

[puck2]

1 minute ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

How you dare to call a truth lies? are you blind or living in an other world ? more ever Ukrainians are not Europeans and are not clean , and I'm not a broke to get paid to sell words i say what i see if you are an European you will remember my words that you called it lies in a few years be careful to accuse people this way!

You guess, if Putin has conquered Europe after destroying Ukraine? You behave already int he Putin-style. Congratulation!

[Cherrytreeview]

1 minute ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

You are a comic just like Zelensky i didn't say i wrote it my self i just showed you what the media are writing , despite this topic you seems to be very poor in politics 

Critique this 

 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/russian-economic-collapse-will-be-hard-avoid-2022-02-28/

[Conquerbrqvilok]

3 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

You can't answer me in any language because your wrong.

Russia is an irrelevant, failing state. 

I'm not Russia is a great Nation and will be more great with the time , Russia saved your butt from the Nazis and now again are doing this 

[Cherrytreeview]

6 minutes ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

I'm not Russia is a great Nation and will be more great with the time , Russia saved your butt from the Nazis and now again are doing this 

The Ukrainian President is a Jew.

Doubt he's a neo nazi.

The Italians and Mussolini didn't that's for sure.

Maybe you think Putin is Mussolini mark 2.

You know how to pick losers. ????

Edited March 2, 2022 by Cherrytreeview
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[Lacessit]

22 minutes ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

so far what you said is true but Russia secure the energy for more than 30 countries and whole wheat which is necessary for some countries and also weapons , vodka and aleksya the whole thing Russia is not a broke country like Ukraine broke and controlled 

 A lot of that wheat comes from the Ukraine, and AFAIK any country can make vodka from potatoes.

 

Russia is a country whose ruble currency is worth less than one US cent, and the central bank has just doubled the interest rate to 20% to stop it falling further down the toilet. In comparison, the USA official interest rate is 0.08%

If that's not broke, it's a damn good imitation.

 

[Henryford]

2 hours ago, mancub said:

Oh. is that what's happening in Jomtien also ?

Wake up, we are discussing the war in Ukraine.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

They may not have a choice, if they can't receive money from home and there are no flights back than they have to be more generous. Also if Thai's paid any or more tax in their younger years they would have a larger pension.

I can't remember getting anything from the Thai government that said they would bail me out if I got into financial trouble.

The TG is under no obligation to do anything, it's not their problem.

[metisdead]

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[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

Reuters always publish lies 

No, its Putin and the Russian media doing that with their false narrative that they launched an operation to denazify Ukraine. You are just parroting the lies and spreading more misinformation

Edited March 2, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[billd766]

4 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

I am thinking their own governments should provide return of their nationals.

A reasonable idea, but, how would they get there bearing in mind that they have little cash money. I can't think of many airlines flying in and out or Russia and I don' think that many Russian aircraft have the range to fly from Russia to Bangkok and back without refueling. On landing in any foreign country the crew have to be rotated, landing and parking fees to be paid plus of course refueling the aircraft. Then the crew will need a hotel and food unless there are 2 crews so that 1 crew can fly the outbound leg to BKK and the 2nd crew can fly it back to Russia.

 

That still leaves the aircraft fees which will have to be paid for in real hard currency. In the Gods we trust, all others pay cash (and not Rubles).

[Cherrytreeview]

1 minute ago, Conquerbrqvilok said:

If you love Ukraine this much go and fight with them 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-has-the-rouble-dropped-and-could-the-russian-economy-collapse-kc2kt2f20

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/sanctions-russia-economy-rouble-financial-collapse/100872126

Edited March 2, 2022 by Cherrytreeview
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[Almer]

7 hours ago, chang1 said:

Not much sympathy for the Russians but certainly the Ukrainians should be helped. 

I'm glad there are no Russians where I live as I would get in trouble for telling them what I think of their leader. 

I have a good Russian  friend over here and he would agree with your less than complimentary comments about his country’s leader

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Who are you writing to to/for?  

He is confirming my decision to ignore him, based on his lack of good manners, was the right one.

[Conquerbrqvilok]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No, its Putin and the Russian media doing that with their false narrative that they launched an operation to denazify Ukraine. You are just parroting the lies and spreading more misinformation

I understand that you sympathize with Ukrainians and you are out of the EU take them to live in Scotland they may like it people in Germany, Italy and France honestly honestly? They don't like Ukrainians and they prefer Russians your problem is the same as some leaders in the western world they won't accept Putin as a strong leader because for decades are used to deal with sheep leaders like the gulf countries and Africa  this is the truth Russia is not Iraq or libya no one can bombard them and this making you and others furious ????

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