Would you like to have a new life after your earhtly death? I for one find my 1 live as sufficient, not looking for any sort of "repetition" in any sort of way.

Looking back, 50% of my life I spent in "neutral mode". Floating thru life. 40% consisted of dealing with adverse events. Only 10% of my time I would consider as absolut and unconditional "happyness".

What about "paradise"? I can not imagine what any paradise would be like. But surely governed by some autocrat. I would not want to argue with any "gods". Being reborn as a cow in India or being reborn as a worm on some farmland in Nebraska? I'd rather not. OR WORST OF ALL: Being reborn to this world as a club swinging Viking? Repeating "earthly existence" once more? Rather not.

I personally prefer to drift away into eternal "nothingness" once my earthly final curtain falls. Basically returning to a state of "nothingness" before I was born. In some sort of way, the best time of my live.😉

A bid morbid the whole thing. We don't like to talk about death in general. The old Romans have seen death in a more relaxed way. After Julius Ceasar conquered Asterix and Obelix in France, while celebrating his victory on a chariot driving thru Rome, he had a slave nearby whispering in 2 minute intervals in his ear: "Memento Mory". Freely translated: "You too will die".

1 hour ago, swissie said:

Would you like to have a new life after your earhtly death? I for one find my 1 live as sufficient, not looking for any sort of "repetition" in any sort of way.

Looking back, 50% of my life I spent in "neutral mode". Floating thru life. 40% consisted of dealing with adverse events. Only 10% of my time I would consider as absolut and unconditional "happyness".

What about "paradise"? I can not imagine what any paradise would be like. But surely governed by some autocrat. I would not want to argue with any "gods". Being reborn as a cow in India or being reborn as a worm on some farmland in Nebraska? I'd rather not. OR WORST OF ALL: Being reborn to this world as a club swinging Viking? Repeating "earthly existence" once more? Rather not.

I personally prefer to drift away into eternal "nothingness" once my earthly final curtain falls. Basically returning to a state of "nothingness" before I was born. In some sort of way, the best time of my live.😉

A bid morbid the whole thing. We don't like to talk about death in general. The old Romans have seen death in a more relaxed way. After Julius Ceasar conquered Asterix and Obelix in France, while celebrating his victory on a chariot driving thru Rome, he had a slave nearby whispering in 2 minute intervals in his ear: "Memento Mory". Freely translated: "You too will die".

If you believe in life after death, you are already living life after death.

If the only option is being reborn in the future, then perhaps not - this planet is heading for the worst of times.

But if the past is an option, yes please.

More importantly you don't want to live too long because in most cases it will be a lingering miserable death, 90%

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

More importantly you don't want to live too long because in most cases it will be a lingering miserable death, 90%

There is a small group of people who live very old, but avoid any chronic illness.

And they die peacefully and suddenly.

According to one doctor I came across who is studying longevity in humans.

So they must have a clean diet, daily movement, ... it is possible but rare.

Remember what it was like before you were born? It's exactly the same after you pass. You won't know and you won't care.

It would surely be a cruel joke if all you've done in your life, from enjoying music, history, food, hobbies, companionship from humans and animals, the sights, sounds and smells of life and all the good things you enjoyed, to all of a sudden just end. This is why we believe. That there's a God who gave us, if not all of us until we all pass, these things, to show us what's coming after, with all of those things without the pain, misery, fear, anxiety, worry and death this life has.Much more desirable than even the best things we enjoyed.

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Why not. Do I get to retain the 8 things I know ?

46 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

There is a small group of people who live very old, but avoid any chronic illness.

And they die peacefully and suddenly.

According to one doctor I came across who is studying longevity in humans.

So they must have a clean diet, daily movement, ... it is possible but rare.

Yes but the point is it's the small minority but the majority thinks it might be them

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yes but the point is it's the small minority but the majority thinks it might be them

I forgot to mention there is also a genetic component.

These people are doing everything right - diet, movement, but also they are blessed with amazing genes.

Scientists are actually trying to find cures to diseases based on these people's genes.

By tweaking our genes with drugs to mimick their genes or sth like that.

Just be HERE, NOW! 👍

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

It would surely be a cruel joke if all you've done in your life, from enjoying music, history, food, hobbies, companionship from humans and animals, the sights, sounds and smells of life and all the good things you enjoyed, to all of a sudden just end. This is why we believe. That there's a God who gave us, if not all of us until we all pass, these things, to show us what's coming after, with all of those things without the pain, misery, fear, anxiety, worry and death this life has.Much more desirable than even the best things we enjoyed.

There is no hard evidence for a god - certainly not a good god, anyway.

Even if it was proved that there is a god, that does not prove humans (or anything else) survives permanent bodily death.

It comes down to hope and faith.

Believing is not "knowing."

13 hours ago, swissie said:

Would you like to have a new life after your earhtly death? I for one find my 1 live as sufficient, not looking for any sort of "repetition" in any sort of way.

Looking back, 50% of my life I spent in "neutral mode". Floating thru life. 40% consisted of dealing with adverse events. Only 10% of my time I would consider as absolut and unconditional "happyness".

What about "paradise"? I can not imagine what any paradise would be like. But surely governed by some autocrat. I would not want to argue with any "gods". Being reborn as a cow in India or being reborn as a worm on some farmland in Nebraska? I'd rather not. OR WORST OF ALL: Being reborn to this world as a club swinging Viking? Repeating "earthly existence" once more? Rather not.

I personally prefer to drift away into eternal "nothingness" once my earthly final curtain falls. Basically returning to a state of "nothingness" before I was born. In some sort of way, the best time of my live.😉

A bid morbid the whole thing. We don't like to talk about death in general. The old Romans have seen death in a more relaxed way. After Julius Ceasar conquered Asterix and Obelix in France, while celebrating his victory on a chariot driving thru Rome, he had a slave nearby whispering in 2 minute intervals in his ear: "Memento Mory". Freely translated: "You too will die".

There's no paradise without beer. An existence without beer is hell.

13 hours ago, swissie said:

Would you like to have a new life after your earhtly death? I for one find my 1 live as sufficient, not looking for any sort of "repetition" in any sort of way.

Looking back, 50% of my life I spent in "neutral mode". Floating thru life. 40% consisted of dealing with adverse events. Only 10% of my time I would consider as absolut and unconditional "happyness".

What about "paradise"? I can not imagine what any paradise would be like. But surely governed by some autocrat. I would not want to argue with any "gods". Being reborn as a cow in India or being reborn as a worm on some farmland in Nebraska? I'd rather not. OR WORST OF ALL: Being reborn to this world as a club swinging Viking? Repeating "earthly existence" once more? Rather not.

I personally prefer to drift away into eternal "nothingness" once my earthly final curtain falls. Basically returning to a state of "nothingness" before I was born. In some sort of way, the best time of my live.😉

A bid morbid the whole thing. We don't like to talk about death in general. The old Romans have seen death in a more relaxed way. After Julius Ceasar conquered Asterix and Obelix in France, while celebrating his victory on a chariot driving thru Rome, he had a slave nearby whispering in 2 minute intervals in his ear: "Memento Mory". Freely translated: "You too will die".

Toxic people are the cause of issues. Narcs.

11 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Toxic people are the cause of issues. Narcs.

You talk about toxic narcs a lot

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You talk about toxic narcs a lot

Lots of them around.

Nobody in this realm truly knows if there is a “next” realm. Many have faith that there is a next realm, but the belief that there is one is truly … faith!

If there is a next realm, nobody of this realm will probably remember this life to reminisce.

We each are energy wrapped in a package. As an engineer, I believe in the law regarding conservation of energy. The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another, meaning the total energy in an isolated system always remains constant. So, when we depart, our energy will transfer. To where, who knows! But, I hope it goes to good use!

1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds said:

There is no hard evidence for a god - certainly not a good god, anyway.

Even if it was proved that there is a god, that does not prove humans (or anything else) survives permanent bodily death.

It comes down to hope and faith.

Believing is not "knowing."

And?

1 hour ago, RMK54 said:

We each are energy wrapped in a package. As an engineer, I believe in the law regarding conservation of energy. The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another, meaning the total energy in an isolated system always remains constant. So, when we depart, our energy will transfer. To where, who knows! But, I hope it goes to good use!

Interesting point of view. After departure, our physical bodily energy could be transferred to the atmosphere, the food web, etc.. For those that believe in another life or heaven, I think it is more a concept of the 'soul' being transferred. There is no proof that a soul exists or has energy. Perhaps bodily energy and the soul could be transferred to two different places.

1 hour ago, RMK54 said:

Nobody in this realm truly knows if there is a “next” realm. Many have faith that there is a next realm, but the belief that there is one is truly … faith!

If there is a next realm, nobody of this realm will probably remember this life to reminisce.

We each are energy wrapped in a package. As an engineer, I believe in the law regarding conservation of energy. The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another, meaning the total energy in an isolated system always remains constant. So, when we depart, our energy will transfer. To where, who knows! But, I hope it goes to good use!

You will be dead so you won't care.

1 hour ago, Tom89 said:

There's no paradise without beer. An existence without beer is hell.

Just think of the taste of beer and wine God could make.

33 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

You will be dead so you won't care.

If you're dead it wouldn't be possible to 'not care', because that would indicate that you are aware but uninterested. When you are dead you will be 'unaware'. In any case, while alive, some find the topic interesting to think about and discuss, even if it is hypothetical. As usual, your attempt to piss in our cheerios is a failure.

42 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Just think of the taste of beer and wine God could make.

...and the quality of cannabis from the Garden of Eden.

7 minutes ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

...and the quality of cannabis from the Garden of Eden.

Garden of Weeden.

There is no life after death. ones you're death that's it The End.

No one can prove anything else.

16 hours ago, swissie said:

I for one find my 1 live as sufficient, not looking for any sort of "repetition" in any sort of way.

You may not have a choice in the matter.

How do I prove that I am me? 🤔

I'm considering how to make a last will, leaving everything to myself in me in my next incarnation, so I don't need to start financially from scratch, if I don't manage to use everything in this life. It should make sense if reincarnation is possible, right?

And about paradise: It seems like I'm already there — at least so they say, when marketing the island I live on — so, that's part of the plan, remaining in paradise, both in afterlife and my next incarnation; the latter by leaving what I already got to myself...😉

How will you spend your willed to yourself money if you come back as a Walnut?

55 minutes ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

If you're dead it wouldn't be possible to 'not care', because that would indicate that you are aware but uninterested. When you are dead you will be 'unaware'. In any case, while alive, some find the topic interesting to think about and discuss, even if it is hypothetical. As usual, your attempt to piss in our cheerios is a failure.

Waste of time. Go live when alive.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Just think of the taste of beer and wine God could make.

God does not exist.