Life In The United Kingdom. A Journey To Citizenship

[David1962]

Hi Guys,

Right, my wife has been here about 3 weeks now on a settlement visa. In this time I decided to get things organised i.e. buy the above book and get her learning early. Only to regret ever opening the blasted thing!

Let me first give you all an insight. In one of the sections, chosen at random it asks "what are the differences between the Council of Europe, the European Union, the European Commission and the European Parliament?"

To my knowlegde, half of the people I work with don't know this! The list of examples are endless but I am in a rush.

Looking at the book, it is not user friendly, hard to understand and ill conceived. I believe the person who wrote this has little understanding of other cultures and the difficulty they may face in reading and digesting this dross.

It reminds me of the books I used when studing at University. It seem's to me that the target audience are English native speaker's that are well educated. You should have a brief understanding now of how horrendous this book is.

I think the way forward is an ESOL course to be honest and even then you have to be assesed for how much you have to pay! I do not have a problem in paying something but the info I have received quotes around £4,000 !!!!!!!

Can I just check that I have got the correct book or the correct course because I still can't believe it?

Good luck.

Kind regards.

[the scouser]

Scott,

This is the book, and in relation to the ESOL course, remember it must be ESOL with Citizenship. Courses should be available from local state colleges at either little or no cost. Try giving your LEA a ring.

Scouse.

[jimbobalooba]

is there a website which lists the participating colleges for the esol with citizenship course?

[the scouser]

Not to my knowledge. However, a quick telephone call to your Local Education Authority should establish which colleges in your area offer the course.

Scouse.

[Mossfinn]

Let me first give you all an insight. In one of the sections, chosen at random it asks "what are the differences between the Council of Europe, the European Union, the European Commission and the European Parliament?"

Hi Scott,

There has been many posts in regard to the pointless and potless body of words set in the first edition and it would appear they haven't got any better in the second.

Remember your partner only needs to read and revise a certain amount of chapters that relate to her particular visa, in this case a Settlement, it used to be the first three, by memory, and now it is five, although I also believe there is no more body in the additional chapters, just split up differently.

Any case, if your partner has a fair grasp of English, read the book, help and question and revise again, if your partner does the hard yard, she will get through it.

It is multiple choice, so you are not always sailing against the wind, basic computer literacy will help too.

The trouble with ESOL courses and in particular E + Citizenship is that they are very hard to source, having been booked by our East European Cousins and nobody has got their act together to service the supply and demand dynamic.

Get through the initial hurdle I am convinced you will be fine, as you will remember from your University, the hardest part is always getting over that first revision hours, so when it gets difficult just put it down and try again later, it will get easier!

Good Luck

Moss

[chadstar]

Hi Guys,

Right, my wife has been here about 3 weeks now on a settlement visa. In this time I decided to get things organised i.e. buy the above book and get her learning early. Only to regret ever opening the blasted thing!

Let me first give you all an insight. In one of the sections, chosen at random it asks "what are the differences between the Council of Europe, the European Union, the European Commission and the European Parliament?"

To my knowlegde, half of the people I work with don't know this! The list of examples are endless but I am in a rush.

Looking at the book, it is not user friendly, hard to understand and ill conceived. I believe the person who wrote this has little understanding of other cultures and the difficulty they may face in reading and digesting this dross.

It reminds me of the books I used when studing at University. It seem's to me that the target audience are English native speaker's that are well educated. You should have a brief understanding now of how horrendous this book is.

I think the way forward is an ESOL course to be honest and even then you have to be assesed for how much you have to pay! I do not have a problem in paying something but the info I have received quotes around £4,000 !!!!!!!

Can I just check that I have got the correct book or the correct course because I still can't believe it?

Good luck.

Kind regards.

im in the same position and found out its £10 per hour at the local college but you need to go to the community college where upto till this year the ESOL was free but from this year we have to pay but only a small fee was told about £1 per hour and exam fee at the end witch is only about £25 , was told it wouldn't cost more than about £80

[Mossfinn]

Scott,

and in relation to the ESOL course, remember it must be ESOL with Citizenship.

but you need to go to the community college where upto till this year the ESOL

As stated in the above post Chad, ensure it is ESOL + Citizenship or it will not qualify you to skip the LITUK test.

Good Luck

Moss

[observer21]

Hi Guys,

Right, my wife has been here about 3 weeks now on a settlement visa. In this time I decided to get things organised i.e. buy the above book and get her learning early. Only to regret ever opening the blasted thing!

Let me first give you all an insight. In one of the sections, chosen at random it asks "what are the differences between the Council of Europe, the European Union, the European Commission and the European Parliament?"

To my knowlegde, half of the people I work with don't know this! The list of examples are endless but I am in a rush.

Looking at the book, it is not user friendly, hard to understand and ill conceived. I believe the person who wrote this has little understanding of other cultures and the difficulty they may face in reading and digesting this dross.

It reminds me of the books I used when studing at University. It seem's to me that the target audience are English native speaker's that are well educated. You should have a brief understanding now of how horrendous this book is.

I think the way forward is an ESOL course to be honest and even then you have to be assesed for how much you have to pay! I do not have a problem in paying something but the info I have received quotes around £4,000 !!!!!!!

Can I just check that I have got the correct book or the correct course because I still can't believe it?

Good luck.

Kind regards.

Hi,  I am currently at work - work in a large QA office (ship building) - and have just done a quick survey re. the EU question.  Nobody from the project manger - Danish, inspectors - Germans, naval architects - mostly Brits, to the secretary could give a

definitive answer - infact most didnt have a clue.

Seems absoulutley nuts.  It will only go to make  the most vunerable imigrints in some way outside the law.  

Edited June 17, 2007 by observer21