BANGKOK (NNT) - Doctors have warned about the dangers of the recreational use of e-cigarettes that contain cannabis, stating that it can cause lung damage and acute respiratory failure.

 

Associate professor of the Faculty of Medicine at Chulalongkorn University Dr Thira Woratanarat warned about the dangers of vaping cannabis oil, citing information from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

 

According to reports, U.S. teenagers were found to have acute pneumonia from using e-cigarettes containing cannabis extract in 2019-2020, with data up to 2020 indicating that 2,807 people registered as having developed such symptoms.

 

Recreational cannabis use has been recently legalized in many US states, raising concerns that the products which differ from joints smoked in the past could potentially cause harmful effects, particularly in teenagers.

 

Thai doctors have also expressed concerns about this issue, noting that vaping cannabis has grown in popularity due to its affordable price and easy accessibility. They are also concerned that after trying these simple products, young people will be tempted to try other products containing a higher percentage of cannabis, such as a cannabis joint.

 

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Can we compare vaping deaths to say nicotine use?

And whilst on this subject can we compare cannabis vaping to nicotine vaping.

 Could we also comment on cannabis vaping suddenly grown in "popularity" when vapes are still illegal and cannabis has only become "legal" in the past few weeks...and why does cannabis oil have a much higher level of thc than a cannabis joint whilst a contradictory "news thread" on this same forum says vaping cannabis is easier to moderate due to the different "burning " temperatures of different vapes?

  Yadda yadda yadda total bs boring reefer madness contradictory rubbish

Edited July 15, 20223 yr by starky

1 hour ago, starky said:

Can we compare vaping deaths to say nicotine use?

And whilst on this subject can we compare cannabis vaping to nicotine vaping.

 Could we also comment on cannabis vaping suddenly grown in "popularity" when vapes are still illegal and cannabis has only become "legal" in the past few weeks...and why does cannabis oil have a much higher level of thc than a cannabis joint whilst a contradictory "news thread" on this same forum says vaping cannabis is easier to moderate due to the different "burning " temperatures of different vapes?

  Yadda yadda yadda total bs boring reefer madness contradictory rubbish

In the mean time young teenagers in Western countries are getting hooked on vaping. From as young as 10-12 yo they're inhaling nicotine liquids often on a daily basis. Schools are reporting kids who are absent minded or worse who are coping with health issues as a direct result. Vaping makes smoking much more accessible while what we should really strive for is a smoke free society. Smoking is bad. Vaping is bad. There's absolutely no need to compare the two when one is often just a precursor to the other.

They're referring to the phenomenon which was found to be caused by cheap vitamin E acetate being used to 'cut' the very expensive cannabis oil and passing it off as a risk directly attributable to the cannabis oil.

To put it simply, there's no way they could know this much and not also know that what they're saying is not true.

So joints are better.

 

Got it.

More scary non-news. Cannabis seems to be the current number one go-to word, for click bait!

Just use a Bong 

10 hours ago, starky said:

Can we compare vaping deaths to say nicotine use?

And whilst on this subject can we compare cannabis vaping to nicotine vaping.

What about bike riding, booze, and clap?

12 hours ago, starky said:

Can we compare vaping deaths to say nicotine use?

And whilst on this subject can we compare cannabis vaping to nicotine vaping.

 Could we also comment on cannabis vaping suddenly grown in "popularity" when vapes are still illegal and cannabis has only become "legal" in the past few weeks...and why does cannabis oil have a much higher level of thc than a cannabis joint whilst a contradictory "news thread" on this same forum says vaping cannabis is easier to moderate due to the different "burning " temperatures of different vapes?

  Yadda yadda yadda total bs boring reefer madness contradictory rubbish

Believe me, there are always ignorant people in our world who deny climate change, or Covid, or harmlessness of smoking or vaping. ????

14 hours ago, starky said:

Can we compare vaping deaths to say nicotine use?

And whilst on this subject can we compare cannabis vaping to nicotine vaping.

 Could we also comment on cannabis vaping suddenly grown in "popularity" when vapes are still illegal and cannabis has only become "legal" in the past few weeks...and why does cannabis oil have a much higher level of thc than a cannabis joint whilst a contradictory "news thread" on this same forum says vaping cannabis is easier to moderate due to the different "burning " temperatures of different vapes?

  Yadda yadda yadda total bs boring reefer madness contradictory rubbish

A while back I read a few articles about problems with vaping cannabis oil in the US. The final conclusion was that the problem was with the additives in the cannabis oil (which is usually mixed with olive or other vegetable oil) so the advice was not to vape oil, but ok to vape cannabis buds. There are some good vapers for that but they're not cheap so I can't really see a trend for teenagers going for that instead of a joint or a bong

13 hours ago, AgentSmith said:

while what we should really strive for is a smoke free society

So true. Also alcohol free society, sugar free society, out-of-marriage-sex free society, salt free society. Did I leave something out?

8 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

So true. Also alcohol free society, sugar free society, out-of-marriage-sex free society, salt free society. Did I leave something out?

Face uncovered in public? Neck to ankle covering?

I love my weed vaporiser. So much better on the lungs. 

1 hour ago, AndyFoxy said:

I love my weed vaporiser. So much better on the lungs. 

i want one but can they be found in Thailand?

FWIW, this is about vaping a concentrated extract, often with THC figures in the high 80% range.

 

A 1 Gram cart might be $60 ~ $100 (all in), or 3,500 THB in the U.S. But these are sold for much more here.

 

eCigarettes and Cannabis concentrates remain ilegal here.

 

I see some imported carts (510's usually) for sale here, but these are few and far between. Some may be creating their own from live rosin?

 

I too would warn people away from these unless you are a seasoned, mid-level cannabis user. I hit an Apex Do-si-Dos (legallly, in the U.S.) cart after not smoking for years. A bit disorientating to say the least.

 

Vaping legal flower with a  dry-herb vaporizer is a totally diferent thing. Probably the easiest, safest best way to consume.

 

 

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Doctors have warned about the dangers of the recreational use of e-cigarettes that contain cannabis, stating that it can cause lung damage and acute respiratory failure.

Nothing compared to the dangers of recreational use of the roads or transport system.

1 hour ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

i want one but can they be found in Thailand?

Maybe they can be bought online?

Edited July 16, 20223 yr by AndyFoxy

4 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

So true. Also alcohol free society, sugar free society, out-of-marriage-sex free society, salt free society. Did I leave something out?

Vegan food and clothing?  lol

4 hours ago, starky said:

Face uncovered in public? Neck to ankle covering?

And that's just the men...

4 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

So true. Also alcohol free society, sugar free society, out-of-marriage-sex free society, salt free society. Did I leave something out?

No just smoke free. I don't care if you drink yourself to death. Also alcohol tastes good. There's nothing nice about smoking. Even many smokers think so.

19 hours ago, AgentSmith said:

what we should really strive for is a smoke free society

What we should really strive for is a free society.

interesting video on the subject 

Regards 

Scotsman  

6 hours ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

i want one but can they be found in Thailand?

https://thaivape.shop/.   I bought one from here

Scotsman 

3 hours ago, AgentSmith said:

No just smoke free. I don't care if you drink yourself to death. Also alcohol tastes good. There's nothing nice about smoking. Even many smokers think so.

Try the good staff. You might change your mind. And no, I don't find alcohol tastes good.

7 hours ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

i want one but can they be found in Thailand?

https://www.dynavap.com/

I got the dynavap 2021 here in BKK. Delivered within a couple of days.

6 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

https://www.dynavap.com/

I got the dynavap 2021 here in BKK. Delivered within a couple of days.

This device uses an external lighter of one's choice for a heat source... 

Is that practical? What is your feedback on this battery-less design? Any down-side? [honestly this sounds like a "pipe", eh?]

Would there be advantages to using an electric vape device?

 

Thanks,
Pawpcorn

14 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

So true. Also alcohol free society, sugar free society, out-of-marriage-sex free society, salt free society. Did I leave something out?

Yea! Dumb people free world! 

Interesting eval:

https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/g20952097/best-weed-vaporizers-to-buy-now/

How is vaping more accessible to "the youth" than some rolling papers or a bamboo bong? Maybe an orchy bottle if you want to get fancy (orchy reference for the more mature Australian audience) ????????????????. Note this is not a traditional orchy but from the much later "gatorade" era of Hubbly bubbly smoke machine production.

Edited July 16, 20223 yr by starky

10 hours ago, Pawpcorn said:

This device uses an external lighter of one's choice for a heat source... 

Is that practical? What is your feedback on this battery-less design? Any down-side? [honestly this sounds like a "pipe", eh?]

Would there be advantages to using an electric vape device?

 

Thanks,
Pawpcorn

Yes it is. And it came with a burner type lighter. It took me a couple of days to learn how to use and get used to it. There are many good reviews online and it was much cheaper than the good electronic vapers. As the flame doesn't light the cannabis directly it's not like a pipe and unless you actually over do it and burn the cannabis what you inhale is not smoke but vape